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  • #18,541
  • Apr 13, 2011 2:51am Apr 13, 2011 2:51am
Quoting pres78
Leading into LO I have 5 min triggers at 4506 and 4486 on EU.
Short,?

I think I see that!

Sonic
  • #18,542
  • Apr 13, 2011 3:12am Apr 13, 2011 3:12am
Quoting sonicdeejay
Short,?

I think I see that!

Sonic
im not pres,

imho it could be too early. look at 4h chart.it broke 1.45
  • #18,543
  • Apr 13, 2011 4:57am Apr 13, 2011 4:57am
Quoting 1pipperhour
Hi,

those are lows of high volume bars? Aren't you using bar's close anymore (or still watching those as well)?
Those are the close. But remember it can end up being H/L or C.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #18,544
  • Apr 13, 2011 4:59am Apr 13, 2011 4:59am
Quoting sonicdeejay
Short,?

I think I see that!

Sonic
Wasn't calling a direction just two possible trigger levels I was watching into LO.

EU has not given any clear trade signals thus far today.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #18,545
  • Apr 13, 2011 5:29am Apr 13, 2011 5:29am
Quoting pres78
Those are the close. But remember it can end up being H/L or C.
Hi,
how do you determine whether to put the trigger line to h/l or close? thx
  • #18,546
  • Apr 13, 2011 5:31am Apr 13, 2011 5:31am
Quoting pres78
Wasn't calling a direction just two possible trigger levels I was watching into LO.

EU has not given any clear trade signals thus far today.

a couple have shown on the bear side at 81.54
  • #18,547
  • Apr 13, 2011 5:43am Apr 13, 2011 5:43am
How do you enter after a no-demand or test bar? Should we wait for the next bar to be an up bar when it closes or we simply put an entry on the breakout of the bar in the correct direction?
  • #18,548
  • Apr 13, 2011 6:04am Apr 13, 2011 6:04am
Quoting dvarrin
How do you enter after a no-demand or test bar? Should we wait for the next bar to be an up bar when it closes or we simply put an entry on the breakout of the bar in the correct direction?
ND or test bar we watch for a break of the high within 2 bars.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #18,549
  • Apr 13, 2011 6:05am Apr 13, 2011 6:05am
Quoting pres78
ND or test bar we watch for a break of the high within 2 bars.
Break of the low with ND
  • #18,550
  • Apr 13, 2011 6:06am Apr 13, 2011 6:06am
Quoting dvarrin
How do you enter after a no-demand or test bar? Should we wait for the next bar to be an up bar when it closes or we simply put an entry on the breakout of the bar in the correct direction?
for a test we enter on the break of the candle so long as the low has not been breached. Also the break must happen within 2 bars. Same rule can apply for no demand although i think there are some variations on whther the low can be breached or not.

Also a good sign is rising volume on the candle that breaks the test/ no demand, as this shows smart moneys interest.
  • #18,551
  • Apr 13, 2011 6:06am Apr 13, 2011 6:06am
Quoting Hunt4pips
Hi,
how do you determine whether to put the trigger line to h/l or close? thx
Start assuming it is the close and then watch price action. The market will tell you if it has chosen to respect the H or L in lieu of the close. If I have any really wide spread bars on high volume I mark all three right away as price can become trapped within the trigger zone and I watch for reactions within it.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #18,552
  • Apr 13, 2011 6:06am Apr 13, 2011 6:06am
Quoting pres78
ND or test bar we watch for a break of the high within 2 bars.
Ty for the answer pres78 ;-)
  • #18,553
  • Apr 13, 2011 6:07am Apr 13, 2011 6:07am
Quoting KinsaleForex
Break of the low with ND
I guess so ... perhaps it was a test to see if anyone is paying attention to the dribble that I am typing.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #18,554
  • Apr 13, 2011 6:10am Apr 13, 2011 6:10am
Quoting pres78
Start assuming it is the close and then watch price action. The market will tell you if it has chosen to respect the H or L in lieu of the close. If I have any really wide spread bars on high volume I mark all three right away as price can become trapped within the trigger zone and I watch for reactions within it.
Thx, so let the market decide which trigger line becomes valid
  • #18,555
  • Apr 13, 2011 6:11am Apr 13, 2011 6:11am
Quoting Hunt4pips
Thx, so let the market decide which trigger line becomes valid
Exactly.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #18,556
  • Apr 13, 2011 6:28am Apr 13, 2011 6:28am
Quoting NaughtyPip
for a test we enter on the break of the candle so long as the low has not been breached. Also the break must happen within 2 bars. Same rule can apply for no demand although i think there are some variations on whther the low can be breached or not.

Also a good sign is rising volume on the candle that breaks the test/ no demand, as this shows smart moneys interest.
Ty NaughtyPip

Are those rules written somewhere in this thread or in some document somebody could share? I remember sometime back I was watching some VSA video and it was said that for a test, for example, the low of the bar must be higher than the previous bar.

Is this condition still to be applied?
  • #18,557
  • Apr 13, 2011 6:34am Apr 13, 2011 6:34am
Quoting dvarrin
Ty NaughtyPip

Are those rules written somewhere in this thread or in some document somebody could share? I remember sometime back I was watching some VSA video and it was said that for a test, for example, the low of the bar must be higher than the previous bar.

Is this condition still to be applied?
Tests ideally should make a new low and also close down or equal to the previous close. Ideally.
  • #18,558
  • Apr 13, 2011 7:17am Apr 13, 2011 7:17am
Perhaps a long entry at 1.0498 on audusd 15M if I'm not wrong (breakout after shakeout in an uptrend).
  • #18,559
  • Apr 13, 2011 7:21am Apr 13, 2011 7:21am
Quoting dvarrin
Perhaps a long entry at 1.0498 on audusd 15M if I'm not wrong (breakout after shakeout in an uptrend).
Mind we have important US news in a little.
  • #18,560
  • Apr 13, 2011 7:23am Apr 13, 2011 7:23am
Took this trade at 12:30 ish, gmt. Just exited. Upthrust into 15 min trigger level, then another upthrust later on to retest the area, immediately after the upthrust a test candle low vol, entered on the break of that candle, further confirmation and a safer entry 2 candles later with a no demand bar. Pulled out at the squat bar.

Comments and critique appreciated.

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