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  • #301
  • Apr 12, 2011 12:45pm Apr 12, 2011 12:45pm
Quoting LasVahGoose
There is no such thing as 'legal rights' and natural rights came first. But anyways, this is off topic and we will never see eye to eye.
You are basing your argument on GOD. And some birthrights only we humans are supposed to have.

But the human species is only ONE part of the animal kingdom of many other kingdoms on this planet. And EVOLUTION links all life on this planet together. (e.g. all lifeforms on this planet have DNA, no exception whatsoever). But somehow we have the right to kill and eat other animals...? But vice versa the rule does not apply to everyone??? ( I am not a vegetarian, I am just saying... there is no written rules in this game. The rules/rights are made up by the players as we move along, lol)

I digress, but lets go back to GOD. (very important)

Ok, america is somehow more a republic than it is a real democracy... and furthermore it is more of an empire than it is a real republic.
But the one major MAJOR difference to other republics like Switzerland is this goddamn (lol how ironic) fixation on GOD AND RELIGION. It is scary and demeaning to me that you totally have to be a god-fearing person if you want to run as president in US... as an atheist you have pretty much NO CHANGE at all to win an election.

Atheists are still very much regarded as being something like gay or terrorists... lol Its crazy and it is part of the problem.

America has so much succumbed to fearmongering and superstition and totally subjected to elite powers. The really laughable thing about all that is that the forefathers and founding fathers of america totally warned us about those things like 200 years ago. haha and still here we are confronted with same old almost "medieval" problems....

US has to wake up, fight for freedom not power, and further turn towards secular and scientific way of thinking. Then I will see US once again strong and bold, putting a man on the moon, and stuff like that..

And about the USD.... it will be interesting to see how the FED reacts to the increasing pressure demanding for it to be abolished.
this pig cannot be slaughtered for ever... or can it?
  • #302
  • Apr 12, 2011 12:50pm Apr 12, 2011 12:50pm
Quoting georgem
You are basing your argument on GOD. And some birthrights only we humans have.
Acutally, I said God given OR from nature. It doesn't matter which you believe, it doesn't change the fact you are born with rights. But like I also said, off topic and we'll never see eye to eye.

EDIT: As far as being a president, you have to pretty much be a Satanist. Side issue though.
Don't wish it were easier, wish you were better. ~ Jim Rohn
  • #303
  • Apr 12, 2011 12:58pm Apr 12, 2011 12:58pm
Quoting LasVahGoose
I think it would take a lot to see US manufacturing come back (maybe take a decade or two), but I agree it would be beneficial. I don't see it happening though, even if the Yuan appreciates because the Chinese will consume their own goods and at that point Apple would have a bigger market in China then in the U.S. I don't know... But, I see your point.
For sure, it won't happen overnight!

BTW, why fuel the fire of this political nonsense debate over human rights. Honestly, you are wasting your time on these trolls. Your time is better served not getting involved in this BS
  • #304
  • Apr 12, 2011 1:01pm Apr 12, 2011 1:01pm
When it comes to suggestions of any asset-backed currency, why does everybody focus on the limited supply of said asset as the factor the induces stability, when in reality it the utilization of a fixed-rate-of-exchange for that asset which creates the stability.

A floating rate of asset-exchange would work just like a fiat system, whereby what you can buy with your paper varies, depending on many conditions.
  • #305
  • Apr 12, 2011 1:02pm Apr 12, 2011 1:02pm
Quoting LasVahGoose
Acutally, I said God given OR from nature. It doesn't matter which you believe, it doesn't change the fact you are born with rights. But like I also said, off topic and we'll never see eye to eye.
Ok, sorry if I misread that...

God is not offtopic when talking about the USD.

I do not know the design of many banknotes of the worlds countries... but among the ones I know ONLY(!) the USD-Bill is quoting its allegiance to god and religion.

Why? WTF religion has no place in economics... its sickening...
this pig cannot be slaughtered for ever... or can it?
  • #306
  • Apr 12, 2011 1:03pm Apr 12, 2011 1:03pm
Quoting LasVahGoose
EDIT: As far as being a president, you have to pretty much be a Satanist. Side issue though.
Haha, very true!!!
this pig cannot be slaughtered for ever... or can it?
  • #307
  • Apr 12, 2011 1:03pm Apr 12, 2011 1:03pm
Quoting bbakker
For sure, it won't happen overnight!

BTW, why fuel the fire of this political nonsense debate over human rights. Honestly, you are wasting your time on these trolls. Your time is better served not getting involved in this BS
Yeah, not sure we got on the topic human rights, but it's a fun debate as long as it stays civil. U.S. was a manufacturing power house in the 1900's but that has all changed now. I guess the cycle can reverse, but I think China will have to go through the 100 years to go from manufacturing driven economy to consumer driven economy. One day (maybe 100 years) China will be sending its manufacturing to the U.S. for the cheap labor so they can consume. Haha!
Don't wish it were easier, wish you were better. ~ Jim Rohn
  • #308
  • Apr 12, 2011 1:11pm Apr 12, 2011 1:11pm
Quoting LasVahGoose
..... I guess the cycle can reverse,......
I hope not. We went from an agrarian economy to a manufacturing economy to a service economy.

What is next I haven't a clue but going back would be regression.
  • #309
  • Apr 12, 2011 1:16pm Apr 12, 2011 1:16pm
Quoting SunTrader
I hope not. We went from an agrarian economy to a manufacturing economy to a service economy.

What is next I haven't a clue but going back would be regression.
I don't think so. Being a production-based economy is very solid. Unfortunately the US hasn't switched to high-tech and rather went for the seemingly more lucrative finance sector.

But I am not sure if economies as large as the US can survive without production as their core.
  • #310
  • Apr 12, 2011 1:23pm Apr 12, 2011 1:23pm
Quoting Low
When it comes to suggestions of any asset-backed currency, why does everybody focus on the limited supply of said asset as the factor the induces stability, when in reality it the utilization of a fixed-rate-of-exchange for that asset which creates the stability.

A floating rate of asset-exchange would work just like a fiat system, whereby what you can buy with your paper varies, depending on many conditions.
The key word being asset. You have to have something that is real and has intrinsic value.

Not sure what you mean buy floating rate depending on conditions, but it sounds like the slippery slope into a full fiat system.
Don't wish it were easier, wish you were better. ~ Jim Rohn
  • #311
  • Apr 12, 2011 1:25pm Apr 12, 2011 1:25pm
Quoting Custos
.... Unfortunately the US hasn't switched to high-tech and rather went for the seemingly more lucrative finance sector.

Bes as large as the US can survive without production as their core.
No high-tech? Silicon Valley and other mini-S V's in Austin, TX, and elsewhere say that ain't so.
  • #312
  • Apr 12, 2011 1:27pm Apr 12, 2011 1:27pm
Quoting SunTrader
No high-tech? Silicon Valley and other mini-S V's in Austin, TX, and elsewhere say that ain't so.
well, compared to it's whole economic size, high-tech production isn't that large in the USA. Germany is a good example for having a large high-tech production base.

But you are right, some leading high-tech firms are still in the USA.
  • #313
  • Apr 12, 2011 1:53pm Apr 12, 2011 1:53pm
Quoting Custos
well, compared to it's whole economic size, high-tech production isn't that large in the USA. Germany is a good example for having a large high-tech production base.

But you are right, some leading high-tech firms are still in the USA.
I didn't say production.

I'm not hung up on that.

But as far as manufacturing goes if you guessed that Germany manufactures more autos than the U.S. you would be wrong. Of course this is a bigger country and a bigger market so we should produce more.

If you guessed that we produce more wheat, corn, rice and just about any other cash crop (someone say marijuana ) than the EU you would be right.

So we are not all finance and burger-flipping. This is such a misnomer.
  • #314
  • Apr 12, 2011 1:58pm Apr 12, 2011 1:58pm
Quoting gspajon
This month's NFP is the best number in almost 3 years. 216K jobs added and the majority of those in private sector jobs. Unemployment fell to the lowest since the recession was declared 8.8% The fed "gurus" are all talking about not just ending QE2 but also a possible rate hike by the end of the year.

The US recovery seems the strongest of all nations world wide, with the US stock market rallying to were it was BEFORE the Leman Bros. crash. The only thing lagging behind is housing and that is as expected when banks are still using the "liars...
The answer is simple. Stop reading / interpreting news and fundamentals.

Draw your lines on your charts and trade price .

I once was hooked on news, forecasts and opinions......
When i finally stopped reading about what others have to say about currencies and start focussing on my charts my life as a trader changed for the better.
Think about it. Why care about forecasts and opinions when it is all happening on your charts? Trade what you see and not what you think is going to happen. It is really that simple.

Newsletters, interpretations and forecasts are not tradeable. Price as it happens is what a trader should study and focus on. Everything else is robbing you from oppertunities.

Trying to figure out what the market will do when Bernanke or Trichet opens their mouths are beyond absurd. Also trying to figure out what is causing the market to move or what has caused a sudden movement is simply not productive to one as a trader in my opinion.
  • #315
  • Apr 12, 2011 2:15pm Apr 12, 2011 2:15pm
Quoting SunTrader
I didn't say production.

I'm not hung up on that.

But as far as manufacturing goes if you guessed that Germany manufactures more autos than the U.S. you would be wrong. Of course this is a bigger country and a bigger market so we should produce more.

If you guessed that we produce more wheat, corn, rice and just about any other cash crop (someone say marijuana ) than the EU you would be right.

So we are not all finance and burger-flipping. This is such a misnomer.
I was thinking in relative, not in absolute terms.
  • #316
  • Edited 2:54pm Apr 12, 2011 2:31pm | Edited 2:54pm
Quoting RandomGamble
The answer is simple. Stop reading / interpreting news and fundamentals.........
Did you read the title of this thread?
  • #317
  • Apr 12, 2011 2:33pm Apr 12, 2011 2:33pm
Quoting RandomGamble
The answer is simple. Stop reading / interpreting news and fundamentals.

Draw your lines on your charts and trade price .

I once was hooked on news, forecasts and opinions......
When i finally stopped reading about what others have to say about currencies and start focussing on my charts my life as a trader changed for the better.
Think about it. Why care about forecasts and opinions when it is all happening on your charts? Trade what you see and not what you think is going to happen. It is really that simple.

Newsletters, interpretations...
soros would disagree with you.
  • #318
  • Apr 12, 2011 5:10pm Apr 12, 2011 5:10pm
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  • #319
  • Apr 13, 2011 1:23am Apr 13, 2011 1:23am
Quoting georgem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgvIs...&feature=feedu
nice video!
  • #320
  • Apr 13, 2011 5:41am Apr 13, 2011 5:41am
I think we all agree that one of the core problems of the US is inflation. Triggered by this article (http://www.cnbc.com/id/42551209), I would like to hear your opinion on the fact that prices are being adjusted for quality, resulting in understated reported inflation rates.

Does a product that improves over time become a more valuable product? Even if the old product cannot be purchased anymore? To me it seems natural that the standard of life increases, and that good products substitute bad products. When I go to the electronics store, I can only buy a flat TVs, no big boxes anymore. So is it fair to assume that a state of the art TV now has a natural value many times higher than a state of the art TV 30 years ago?
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