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  • #3,821
  • Feb 24, 2011 11:41pm Feb 24, 2011 11:41pm
Quoting NiNE
What Happen To That Version...?
simply update
  • #3,822
  • Edited 7:35pm Feb 25, 2011 6:34pm | Edited 7:35pm
Quoting yasd810
simply update
Does It Solve...?
I Just Want That Version...
  • #3,823
  • Feb 26, 2011 6:39am Feb 26, 2011 6:39am
Quoting Tread
Hi Guys

I am back and finishing up the EA, Brett, I will check on the Asian session timer.
Has anyone seen Tread around, or maybe he found the holy trading grail and now is livin it up in some tropical paradise.
  • #3,824
  • Edited 7:46am Feb 26, 2011 7:18am | Edited 7:46am
Dont want to sound negative, but one question.
I noticed, some of the posters here have less than 50 post, some only few.. Back testing and hoping, asking for a working set file..

That should not be the yardstick, i have only 50 posts too, but the idea suggests itself..

Do you people trade the Thv manually and make profits. Steady ?
Who traded the Thv every day in the last 3 months and have now more than he had at the beginning ?

Till now, Tread said it also, its a beta Ea that should be used only on Demo.

I would like too to have this Ea working but i think at this level there is a lot of work to do to make it profitable.
Changing some parameters and back testing few weeks is not the full solution. You have to fully understand what you do, and the best way to do that is to become a Master of the manual Thv at first..

Random quote..

Quote
I'm new to this thread and it is impossible to go trough 254 pages.
It should be..

So dont get me wrong, i just writen some thoughts down.
For my part, i decided to learn how to code, but it can take some months
till i write my first 'Hello World'..

Imagine Tread stops the whole Ea development, whats then ??
How to opt out annoying user signatures ??
  • #3,825
  • Feb 26, 2011 8:19am Feb 26, 2011 8:19am
Quoting Toranaga

Imagine Tread stops the whole Ea development, whats then ??
Maybe he has !!!! Been along time without a post from Tread, I definately couldn't fill his shoes, I am still trading the Day chart manually, the other charts are way tooooo fast for me.

So for all those people who are too lazy to go and read the THV trading method (manually) and this thread in its entirety. I will give you a method, but wait this may not be good for those who can't read through all the posts on both threads because this method takes patience and must be traded manually, what's it doing in this thread you may ask, Toranga made a good point you should be able to trade the system manually before considering the EA. So first you need to know the basics, throw the iMax cross on a THV D1 template and go from there, but wait the THV manual states it's only for the lower timeframes.

The way I see it is you have to understand the higher time frames before you can understand the lower and vice versa. Start from the top work your way down, then back up to the top, and you may work out that the middle is where it is at with this EA.

But then again I am no expert so maybe everything I have rambled on about is just that a ramble.

I love the imax cross on the D1 chart it makes it look so simple.
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  • #3,826
  • Feb 26, 2011 7:31pm Feb 26, 2011 7:31pm
Hello,

I've been searching this thread to find out why the Coral was removed from the EA in v1.134.

I'm fairly new to the THV EA, I admit, but I have been reading the thread to get myself caught up, and I cannot seem to find an answer. I understand that v1.132 had some bugs, but were these caused by the Coral? - I'm just thinking that the Coral is a basic component of the manual system, so it's odd that it would be removed from the EA.

I've tried 60 EMA, and even 65 EMA, in the settings, as was recommended, but they don't appear that close to the Coral. In fact, I've had trades triggered on the EMA settings that would not have triggered on the Coral (in other words the Coral would have kept me out of what were ultimately bad trades).

Does having the Coral in the EA cause problems? -Can it be added back in to future versions as an option for those who want to still include some of the basic THV components in their EA strategies?

Thanks!

PS: Thank you Tread and everyone else who have put so much time and effort into this project. I can't speak for others, but I am definitely appreciateive and grateful for your work.
  • #3,827
  • Feb 27, 2011 3:59am Feb 27, 2011 3:59am
Quoting spot007
Hello,

I've been searching this thread to find out why the Coral was removed from the EA in v1.134.

I'm fairly new to the THV EA, I admit, but I have been reading the thread to get myself caught up, and I cannot seem to find an answer. I understand that v1.132 had some bugs, but were these caused by the Coral? - I'm just thinking that the Coral is a basic component of the manual system, so it's odd that it would be removed from the EA.

I've tried 60 EMA, and even 65 EMA, in the settings, as was recommended, but they don't appear that close...
Hi, spot007

coral anywhere hasn't got to
please, read post 3614
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...57#post4352757
  • #3,828
  • Feb 27, 2011 7:54am Feb 27, 2011 7:54am
Quoting yasd810
Hi, spot007

coral anywhere hasn't got to
please, read post 3614
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...57#post4352757
Hi Yasd810,

Thanks for replying! I did read that post, as well as a couple others I found in this thread. I tried those settings, but when I compared on a chart, they are not quite the same as the Coral. They are close, but when testing, I could see that some trades were executed based on the MA that would not have been executed if the Coral were used.

I like trading the manual version of the THV, so I got quite interested when I discovered there is an EA in development based on it.

I was just wondering why the Coral was removed. I understand that this EA is a work in progress and has evolved so much since its inception (and it's a great piece of human creativity and effort), but if the Coral is a basic component of the manual THV, should it not at least be an option in the EA?

I would stick to v1.132, but from what I've gathered, it has a lot of bugs.
  • #3,829
  • Feb 28, 2011 5:11pm Feb 28, 2011 5:11pm
Crazy...i can't find one set which is profitable in backtesting till now.....
Is it exist in the world? Could anyone guide me?
  • #3,830
  • Feb 28, 2011 6:06pm Feb 28, 2011 6:06pm
Guide you to do what ?
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  • #3,831
  • Edited 8:57pm Feb 28, 2011 8:46pm | Edited 8:57pm
Quoting shakeyiu
Crazy...i can't find one set which is profitable in backtesting till now.....
Is it exist in the world? Could anyone guide me?
From my experience back testing with this EA is not reliable, your just wasting your time. If your serious about this EA leave your computer on for 24hrs a day for the trading week, or do what I do and run it on a VPS using a demo account for forward testing, if you can't do the above this thread isn't for you and look for a manual trading method.

If you need someone to guide you go learn the manual version http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=127271 if you think you know the manual version then use a VPS and forward test on a demo account. Why settle for 30% accuarcy backtesting, when you can forward test at 100%.

My personal exp, only trade eur/usd with this EA, stay away from the 1M chart, and stick to the 5 and 15 timeframe, and use the iMax cross. Sorry not hand feeding today, and not experienced enough to do it, Tread is the exp one around here, but where is he? I really think he found the holy grail of set files and is now on a private beach getting a tan.
  • #3,832
  • Edited 4:12am Mar 1, 2011 3:39am | Edited 4:12am
Hi everybody,
I developed a set-file and it seems to be working in longer run and choppy markets.
Since I was concerned about the difference between back-testing and forward-testing, I decided to work on 15min time-frame. I haven't forward-test it yet, but it seems to be working fine on back-testing, although it doesn't produces so many trades.
Anyway I share the set-file and details about how it works:
It uses the Ichimoku with default setting(9,26,52) that I told before, I have it on 15min and 1h, it also has fast Trix on 1h to avoid late entries and the trigger is Trix cross of the 15min.
There are so many things that can be modified and take into account like pivots, news, candle max ATR, money management, etc. for those who wants a guide and interested in this setting.
If you have any question feel free and if you have anything in mind to improve it please tell me.
And if there's anyone who can help with back-testing and forward-testing, that would be a great help.
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  • #3,833
  • Mar 1, 2011 4:25am Mar 1, 2011 4:25am
Quoting exking
Hi everybody,
I developed a set-file and it seems to be working in longer run and choppy markets.
Since I was concerned about the difference between back-testing and forward-testing, I decided to work on 15min time-frame. I haven't forward-test it yet, but it seems to be working fine on back-testing, although it doesn't produces so many trades.
Anyway I share the set-file and details about how it works:
It uses the Ichimoku with default setting(9,26,52) that I told before, I have it on 15min and 1h, it also has fast Trix on 1h to avoid late entries...
Thx all, actually I am not seeking for a profitable set without any effort here. It makes me depressed because I have done backtesting for around 3 months and it doesn't work. I know the basic idea of THV and MTF and I have read the manual many times...

exking, thx for your set first. I will do the backtesting for your set first and post the result a few days after.

Off topic: Does anyone know any program in FF can detect the technical parttern such as head and shoulder? I am currently doing a school project about time series and pattern recognition. Please send me the detail and message if you know it. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!! Really appreciate it!!!!
  • #3,834
  • Mar 1, 2011 4:37am Mar 1, 2011 4:37am
Quoting shakeyiu
Thx all, actually I am not seeking for a profitable set without any effort here. It makes me depressed because I have done backtesting for around 3 months and it doesn't work. I know the basic idea of THV and MTF and I have read the manual many times...

exking, thx for your set first. I will do the backtesting for your set first and post the result a few days after.

Off topic: Does anyone know any program in FF can detect the technical parttern such as head and shoulder? I am currently doing a school project about time series and pattern recognition....
Not all the time our efforts result in success, most of the time they just give us experience.
I was uploaded the wrong set-file but I changed it instantly, make sure you have that one that has all settings with closed candle.
Wish you Good Luck
  • #3,835
  • Edited 7:13am Mar 1, 2011 6:25am | Edited 7:13am
Quoting exking
Not all the time our efforts result in success, most of the time they just give us experience.
I was uploaded the wrong set-file but I changed it instantly, make sure you have that one that has all settings with closed candle.
Wish you Good Luck
Hi Exking I will forward test your set file from now until a few hours before close of trade on friday, because I never trade near the close, plus I like to go to bed.
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It is loaded now, the time was 17.04 when I loaded it, your trading hours are 10.00 - 17.00, and you really are trying to stay away from the news I see.
  • #3,836
  • Mar 1, 2011 6:34am Mar 1, 2011 6:34am
Quoting shakeyiu
Off topic: Does anyone know any program in FF can detect the technical parttern such as head and shoulder? I am currently doing a school project about time series and pattern recognition. Please send me the detail and message if you know it. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!! Really appreciate it!!!!
Hi shakeyiu, look up the username stratman in FF i think I have seen head and shoulders in one of his U Tube clips. He has a website which he charges around $50 for a lifetime membership and he gives you great trading tools e.g a really good dashboard, and he will be realesing an EA to members. I am sure their are alot of members who have been apart of this thread and over at the THV thread who can vouch for him. It was the best $50 I have ever spent in educating myself about the forex market.
  • #3,837
  • Mar 1, 2011 7:32am Mar 1, 2011 7:32am
Quoting neild1971
Hi Exking I will forward test your set file from now until a few hours before close of trade on friday, because I never trade near the close, plus I like to go to bed.
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It is loaded now, the time was 17.04 when I loaded it, your trading hours are 10.00 - 17.00, and you really are trying to stay away from the news I see.
Thank you,
The problem with this setting is that it doesn't take so much trade, but if you change the closed candle to unclosed candle, it takes more trades. Also changing the MaxCrossIchimokuPips would change the result, I recommend to start with 0 and decide what's better based on the results.
  • #3,838
  • Mar 1, 2011 7:40am Mar 1, 2011 7:40am
Quoting exking
Thank you,
The problem with this setting is that it doesn't take so much trade, but if you change the closed candle to unclosed candle, it takes more trades. Also changing the MaxCrossIchimokuPips would change the result, I recommend to start with 0 and decide what's better based on the results.
I will just run it with the settings in your set file, and once you see the forward testing results you can decide what needs to be changed.
  • #3,839
  • Mar 1, 2011 7:46am Mar 1, 2011 7:46am
Look at these results about 2000 to 3000pips in a month, I got them when I started with default Ichimoku, although they are the results of 1 month but in some months they're losing,
I changed so many things and I came to this set-file, I'm not sure if it's profitable or not but I know we can do something with default Ichimoku.
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  • #3,840
  • Mar 2, 2011 8:54am Mar 2, 2011 8:54am
Quoting neild1971
Hi shakeyiu, look up the username stratman in FF i think I have seen head and shoulders in one of his U Tube clips. He has a website which he charges around $50 for a lifetime membership and he gives you great trading tools e.g a really good dashboard, and he will be realesing an EA to members. I am sure their are alot of members who have been apart of this thread and over at the THV thread who can vouch for him. It was the best $50 I have ever spent in educating myself about the forex market.
thx neild and exking, I am looking around his website and plan to learn from his system.... It's useful.. thx lots :]

exking:
I am not sure the trading hour of your set. Is that GMT 10:00-17:00?
I am doing forward test for your set with 6 major pairs and get 2 profit trades (no bad trade). It seems a good begin. Thanks lot!!!!
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