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  • #12,341
  • Feb 14, 2011 12:52pm Feb 14, 2011 12:52pm
Quoting malcolmb14
what how did that happen ... why did they drop price under 1.3500 and make me sell into a bear trap ? wow .. omg ..they are stop hunting ... and spreads went up to 20 pip ..lol..all brokers are crocks.

omg for sure we are going to 1 ... the news says we are so how can they do this ?

rofl....
do you think the 1.5 trillion usd that are moved in the interbank trading day by day are aiming for stops? i don't think that brokers have any significant effect on price movement, at least as long as london is open.
  • #12,342
  • Feb 14, 2011 12:54pm Feb 14, 2011 12:54pm
i was being sarcastic ....

Quoting cashbyclick
do you think the 1.5 trillion usd that are moved in the interbank trading day by day are aiming for stops? i don't think that brokers have any significant effect on price movement, at least as long as london is open.
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  • #12,343
  • Feb 14, 2011 12:56pm Feb 14, 2011 12:56pm
Quoting Fudomyo
hi Bel,


1350 is current resistance, but actually we could go to 13535 and still bounce down. that's my 1H TL breakout point for a larger move up.


Anyway, food for thought.
Food for thought might be the rejection at the same price market opened up at yesterday, 1.3507.

What we have seen is that EU opened NY at the bottom of it's swing and has bought back up to daily roll over. Now that they have covered longs, you might wanna think about how this line of rejection and the Asian session shorts will impact the balance of the NY session...

Food for thought...this might be it.

PS...I am one of them MACD traders Brother Mal is so fond of...

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  • #12,344
  • Feb 14, 2011 1:01pm Feb 14, 2011 1:01pm
Quoting malcolmb14
do not forget i am looking for the next 800 to 1000 pip move up , pros to turn the market and move it up that much will not do it in one day
I see, you are looking for a 800 - 1000 pip move to the upside, and what stop size are you employing or is this one of those trades that you don't employ a stop loss? Hedging maybe?

This region on the chart for EU is more than likely going to be some buyers around here, no doubting that.

1.3400 - 1.3450 buying zone, but I don't need Volume to tell me that.

I certainly would not be anticipating a 800 to 1000 pip move to the upside...
  • #12,345
  • Feb 14, 2011 1:06pm Feb 14, 2011 1:06pm
I'm at work again

Would someone please post a chart of EU M15 and AU M15 to cover today.

Thanks guys.
  • #12,346
  • Feb 14, 2011 1:14pm Feb 14, 2011 1:14pm
here Intel
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  • #12,347
  • Feb 14, 2011 1:20pm Feb 14, 2011 1:20pm
compare to that vol. this is unfiltered tick vol

http://i.imgur.com/VszjG.jpg
  • #12,348
  • Feb 14, 2011 1:24pm Feb 14, 2011 1:24pm
Quoting Dr.Geppynius
compare to that vol. this is unfiltered tick vol
Weird, you have highest volume of the day after London close.
  • #12,349
  • Feb 14, 2011 1:27pm Feb 14, 2011 1:27pm
Quoting juhanimi
Weird, you have highest volume of the day after London close.
The chart posted previously shows the same volume spike, highest with only NY in session when price hit Daily Roll Over...

Now, what is the term you guys use for that?

No Demand?
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  • #12,350
  • Feb 14, 2011 1:28pm Feb 14, 2011 1:28pm
the futures confirm that this is no glitch. there also was a big vol surge.
it seems to have been hit hard in a very high vol spot.

Quoting juhanimi
Weird, you have highest volume of the day after London close.
  • #12,351
  • Feb 14, 2011 1:30pm Feb 14, 2011 1:30pm
Quoting Magix
The chart posted previously shows the same volume spike, highest with only NY in session when price hit Daily Roll Over...

Now, what is the term you guys use for that?

No Demand?
Stopping Volume...

That's it, right?
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  • #12,352
  • Feb 14, 2011 1:31pm Feb 14, 2011 1:31pm
Quoting Dr.Geppynius
the futures confirm that this is no glitch. there also was a big vol surge.
it seems to have been hit hard in a very high vol spot.
There was a level, but so high, do you have picture of that futures vol?
  • #12,353
  • Feb 14, 2011 1:32pm Feb 14, 2011 1:32pm
Quoting malcolmb14
i was being sarcastic ....
ok, didn't get that

i have startet to get a little into vsa. i have no doubt about its relevance in the stock market. i think for understanding forex the best think one can do is trying to understand how the "big money" is moved. i don't think that the interbank trading or hedging activities of big companies are so speculative motivated to hunt for stops...are they?

again i want to bring in my point of using correlation for aproximating real volume. look at the dialy chart of usd/chf and eur/chf, after a the weakness of chf in the past weeks it seems to stenghen. despite the strong downturn of eur/usd it could prevail over usd today. today most of the eur/x and usd/x crossrates were highly correlated to eur/usd so obviously EU was traded with a very high volume. but chf seems to be supported by a much higher volume. observing chf might be intersting in the next days.
i'm curious about announcements tomorrow. volume of eur/usd might be explosive, but for me it's more interesting to see how the other crossrates behave when volume on EU weakens.
  • #12,354
  • Feb 14, 2011 1:34pm Feb 14, 2011 1:34pm
Quoting Dr.Geppynius
the futures confirm that this is no glitch. there also was a big vol surge.
it seems to have been hit hard in a very high vol spot.
eSignal feed is pretty much the same as juhanimi's charts.
  • #12,355
  • Feb 14, 2011 1:35pm Feb 14, 2011 1:35pm
Quoting Dr.Geppynius
the futures confirm that this is no glitch. there also was a big vol surge.
it seems to have been hit hard in a very high vol spot.
Hmm ... strange such hight volume on that recent spike - 6E below shows much like CitiBank EURUSD.
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  • #12,356
  • Feb 14, 2011 1:42pm Feb 14, 2011 1:42pm
Here is link to charts that you can look from browser Intel.

http://www.netdania.com/Products/liv...Chart.aspx?m=c

Thanks KinsaleForex.
  • #12,357
  • Feb 14, 2011 1:43pm Feb 14, 2011 1:43pm
Quoting juhanimi
here Intel
Thanks for that. I see that price did indeed break the high of the 3 UT style bars on AU.

Yes Magix it could be stopping volume if the volume is correct on Dr. Gs chart. We should take care when using this type of bar. It is also an Up thrust which would indicate weakness but the volume is ultra high which can change things a bit. It is also an ultra high volume down bar which indicates strength. This is one of those times when we need to check the following bars to see whats going on.

Nice to see you here by the way. I'm sure you have much to contribute.
  • #12,358
  • Feb 14, 2011 1:46pm Feb 14, 2011 1:46pm
all this food talk is making me hungry....

Since the 30M 50ema has contained price topside since Feb. 10th. until we close above it, it's just a useful entry exit point as we move down the channel (my prior chart). If we breakout, then it will put the topside targets into play. WS1 and 1H utl are the interim breakout lines I'm watching. With the 15m pin rejection a potential retest of support first seems likely.


Nothing wrong with MACD if it's calibrated properly. Most people have it set so it moves like molasses.


Quoting Magix
Food for thought might be the rejection at the same price market opened up at yesterday, 1.3507.

What we have seen is that EU opened NY at the bottom of it's swing and has bought back up to daily roll over. Now that they have covered longs, you might wanna think about how this line of rejection and the Asian session shorts will impact the balance of the NY session...

Food for thought...this might be it.

PS...I am one of them MACD traders Brother Mal is so fond of...

  • #12,359
  • Feb 14, 2011 1:48pm Feb 14, 2011 1:48pm
Quoting juhanimi
Here is link to charts that you can look from browser Intel.

http://www.netdania.com/Products/liv...Chart.aspx?m=c

Thanks KinsaleForex.
Thanks for thinking about me but, my works computer doesnt have java enabled and I dont have access to change it. I can see some other charts but they dont have volume and some aren't up to date
  • #12,360
  • Feb 14, 2011 1:50pm Feb 14, 2011 1:50pm
Quoting Fudomyo
all this food talk is making me hungry....

Since the 30M 50ema has contained price topside since Feb. 10th. until we close above it, it's just a useful entry exit point as we move down the channel (my prior chart). If we breakout, then it will put the topside targets into play. WS1 and 1H utl are the interim breakout lines I'm watching. With the 15m pin rejection a potential retest of support first seems likely.


Nothing wrong with MACD if it's calibrated properly. Most people have it set like molasses.
hungry? have some MacD

http://www.zippido.com/wp-content/up.../McDonalds.jpg
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