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  • #3,661
  • Edited 10:27am Feb 2, 2011 10:16am | Edited 10:27am
Quoting akara
Hi Tread and THV Test Crew,

attached some trades taken on M5. Seems ok but my gains are wiped out by my 1 or 2 losses.

Also entries are always too late and exits often too quick.

Attach also my set files.

Any input or help greatly appreciated.


Thanks for the good work. Rewards comming soon.
Hi,
I think late entries are because of your MTF setting, when you set upper time-frames with closed candles, sometimes you miss the move on 1min or 5min because the EA is waiting for the upper time-frames to close their candles. Try your setting with MTF with open candles, for example MTFTrixDot1=200M15.
Other reason for late entries can be SlowTrixDirection, ignore this one and check it.
I have some suggestions too, test your EA on one pair or compare the result of each pair differently. I run my setting just on eur/usd to be focused, I also test different setting on five fixed days for example from 17 to 22 of January, when I come to a satisfying result then I run it on different days.
One more thing, try to use PriceCrossIchimoku or MTF Ichimoku, this will filter many false signals.
And last, for the start use fixed TP and SL for example 10pip for SL and 10pip for TP, don't confuse yourself with trailing stop, partial exits and other factors.
EDIT: If you want to use MTF Ichimoku, notice that the setting is different from Ichimoku on current time-frame, but you can change it if you want.
Good Luck
  • #3,662
  • Feb 2, 2011 10:22am Feb 2, 2011 10:22am
Quoting Tread
This works for me... I m not close to the PC, but i will post a back test when i am back

FastSlowTrixCross = 2010
PriceCrossMa = 2000
Ma_Trend = False
MA1Period1=60
I found out how this works, the Fresh Signal Digit of all other factors should be 1, and the Fresh Signal Digit of FastSlowTrixCross should be 2, like this:
PriceCrossMA=1010
PriceCrossIchimoku=1010
FastSlowTrixCross=1020
  • #3,663
  • Feb 2, 2011 11:47am Feb 2, 2011 11:47am
Hmmm got an interesting result overnight , 2 orders hit SL , but orders from the morning covered that loss with with some profit, I guess Iwill try to apply some filters and place reasonable TP like 20 pips for sl 40, on 1m what do you think guys ?

Quoting neild1971
Hi everyone, I have been testing a few ideas and I came across one I like, so I back tested it. the back test got around 52 pips with no losses. This is only my first test so I am using big TP's and SL's and my safeguards are moving SL and an In profit SL.

The last thing I was working on was looking at manual trading the higher timeframes looking at the week trend, which somebody put me onto, no names mentioned they know who they are. In testing on a demo account and live account very nice results no losses, but it involves me being in front of...
  • #3,664
  • Feb 2, 2011 12:03pm Feb 2, 2011 12:03pm
Quoting Vitaliy
Hmmm got an interesting result overnight , 2 orders hit SL , but orders from the morning covered that loss with with some profit, I guess Iwill try to apply some filters and place reasonable TP like 20 pips for sl 40, on 1m what do you think guys ?
Are you working on Neild's setfile?
  • #3,665
  • Feb 2, 2011 12:36pm Feb 2, 2011 12:36pm
yes, but I guess I will have to change some THV MTF settings or at least, attempt to get better entries
  • #3,666
  • Feb 2, 2011 4:39pm Feb 2, 2011 4:39pm
I can't attach the set-file or report-file with my new Windows which is Windows7, Metatrader shows the files with a lock on them and I can't access them for attaching, and when I run it as administrator it doesn't do that but I can just test it on few recent days.
Anyway in both forms (as administrator or normally) I can't test my set-file more than a month ago, can anyone help me with this?
Well, because it was few days that I wasn't showing my results I decided to show it by picture, so this is the result from 2011.01.01 to 2011.01.31, from January 1st to January 14th, there is no trade taken, I don't know whether it's because of the setting or again there is something wrong with the Metatrader.
One of the losses could be ignored if I have set the hedge option to false, so you can add 12pips to it.
The problem with this setting is that it misses some of the opportunities and in some days it doesn't take any trade but after all the result is not bad for the beginning.
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  • #3,667
  • Feb 2, 2011 4:48pm Feb 2, 2011 4:48pm
How did u manage to get that good result ????
  • #3,668
  • Feb 2, 2011 5:06pm Feb 2, 2011 5:06pm
Quoting Vitaliy
How did u manage to get that good result ????
Do you think it' good? It's 200pips from 1 month and in 12 days we had no trade.
I'll show my set-file later, it's so simple.
Can you help me? I can't test it on any other month than January 2011.
  • #3,669
  • Feb 2, 2011 5:13pm Feb 2, 2011 5:13pm
don't use strategy tester, since it is useless anyways to get accurate results due to the indicators not working properly with it and having no new filter at all, I would suggest to test it live for a day or two. At the minimum EA shouldn't bring your balance down. That was 200 only from 1 pair, and for some reason it didn't work for 12 days so it is not bad
  • #3,670
  • Feb 2, 2011 5:20pm Feb 2, 2011 5:20pm
Quoting Vitaliy
don't use strategy tester, since it is useless anyways to get accurate results due to the indicators not working properly with it and having no new filter at all, I would suggest to test it live for a day or two. At the minimum EA shouldn't bring your balance down. That was 200 only from 1 pair, and for some reason it didn't work for 12 days so it is not bad
I didn't use indicators that need to be live like pivots or anything, you mean it's not accurate even with trix and ichimoku?
  • #3,671
  • Feb 2, 2011 5:31pm Feb 2, 2011 5:31pm
just with those 2 maybe, but you still won't be able to filter out news, the best test is on demo in real time
  • #3,672
  • Feb 2, 2011 5:36pm Feb 2, 2011 5:36pm
Quoting Vitaliy
just with those 2 maybe, but you still won't be able to filter out news, the best test is on demo in real time
Yes, of course, I'll do it from tomorrow, I got frightened at the moment, thought all my efforts were nothing.
  • #3,673
  • Feb 2, 2011 5:40pm Feb 2, 2011 5:40pm
just have like 10 MT4s running at the same time with different set files, it will give you a pretty good idea of what is going on, and you will have plenty of material to modify and go through(make sure you have screenshots on when you running EA and proper template on the chart to see what was going on at the time of trade)
  • #3,674
  • Feb 2, 2011 5:50pm Feb 2, 2011 5:50pm
Quoting Vitaliy
just have like 10 MT4s running at the same time with different set files, it will give you a pretty good idea of what is going on, and you will have plenty of material to modify and go through(make sure you have screenshots on when you running EA and proper template on the chart to see what was going on at the time of trade)
I think I know what you're talking about, different brokers give different results, specially on lower time-frames, did you mean that?
And about modifying materials, it's true, I was modifying all the time and I was going to modify it more with strategy tester, but when you said that about indicators not being accurate, I decided to go on demo but the process would be much slower. Probably I run it on demo and modifying it on strategy tester at the same time.
Thanks for your concern.
  • #3,675
  • Feb 2, 2011 5:54pm Feb 2, 2011 5:54pm
Don't you what's wrong that I can't test it on previous months?
  • #3,676
  • Feb 2, 2011 5:55pm Feb 2, 2011 5:55pm
Quoting exking
I think I know what you're talking about, different brokers give different results, specially on lower time-frames, did you mean that?
And about modifying materials, it's true, I was modifying all the time and I was going to modify it more with strategy tester, but when you said that about indicators not being accurate, I decided to go on demo but the process would be much slower. Probably I run it on demo and modifying it on strategy tester at the same time.
Thanks for your concern.
not just from brokers, the way THV indicators repaint in real life, I don't think they repaint on strategy tester that much, from my experience it never work the same in real time as it did in strategy tester,
  • #3,677
  • Feb 2, 2011 5:56pm Feb 2, 2011 5:56pm
Quoting exking
Don't you what's wrong that I can't test it on previous year?
maybe you don't have data for previous year, I don't know don't use strategy tester much
  • #3,678
  • Feb 2, 2011 6:08pm Feb 2, 2011 6:08pm
Quote
I think I know what you're talking about, different brokers give different results, specially on lower time-frames, did you mean that?
mh, that was what i struggled last few days with. Oanda, Interbank Fx, Alpari.. Backtesting, forward testing, different pivot calculations, similar ticks aso..

Now i decided to concentrate only on Oanda and forget the rest, to start with..

I read you should use a separate MT4 instalation for backtesting and dont log in. So can i only change the installation folder name to have 2 or more Oanda MT4s on the same pc ??
How to opt out annoying user signatures ??
  • #3,679
  • Feb 2, 2011 6:23pm Feb 2, 2011 6:23pm
Quoting Toranaga
mh, that was what i struggled last few days with. Oanda, Interbank Fx, Alpari.. Backtesting, forward testing, different pivot calculations, similar ticks aso..

Now i decided to concentrate only on Oanda and forget the rest, to start with..

I read you should use a separate MT4 instalation for backtesting and dont log in. So can i only change the installation folder name to have 2 or more Oanda MT4s on the same pc ??
you can make as many copies of MT4 folder as you want, just when you will start that MT4 you will have create a new demo account
  • #3,680
  • Edited 8:05pm Feb 2, 2011 6:47pm | Edited 8:05pm
I started to read the Thread from the beginning.
So much i read so much more i see i have to learn the basics.

Is there some How to start compilation.
I have to admit, i dont know where to start.

From time to time i find some post that explains a lot or gives a crucial hint
that without knowing him the whole setuping would go in false direction and be useles. Or dont work..



Is that true that the indis behave different in backtesting and forward testing. How big is the difference. If it is realy so, backtesting would be useless for me, because i would like to have the setup focus on pivots, trix aso..

I will test the behaviour by my self, but first i have to know if i have all what i need to work..
How to opt out annoying user signatures ??
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