Janus Systems.... a very good choice!

Hi to all!

I`m a trader from more than 5 years, i trade stocks and future from almost 6 years and i trade Forex since 2006 and i have traders friends in around the world also because, thanks to the sky, I have a lot of free time and opportunities to travel.

Having said that I am pleased and I feel obliged, with this thread, to bring a little of value added to this excellent Forum plotting my best experience up to now met in the world of investments relating to Forex and automated systems (expert advisors): are about 4 months that I decided to become a customer of one company that do business trading on the forex market and manages accounts on different Americans and Europeans brokers (including PFG, ATC Brokers and MB Trading to mention a few). Well, this choice is at the moment the best that I have ever undertaken in forex trading: in this company I have found an excellent support, an uncommon seriousness and in particular a solid return (at least until now) since i`m currently at around the +19% of net profit of my initial capital invested. This company in which I have invested is called Janus Trading, its website is http://www.janus-trading.eu and his forum with more than 170 registered members is http://www.janus-trading.eu/forum/index.php. In my view, is one of the best company regarding the offer of expert advisors and PAMM accounts (that for those who do not know: are simply broker`s accounts managed by companies of trading, as the Janus Systems, with the authorization of broker that is as guarantor): just go on one of the websites more large in the world related to the signals on forex generated by expert advisors, named RAS (http://www.rentasignal.com) and click on top signals to see what kind of range of robust systems have this company. Also they have different type of investment`s offers, using always and only expert advisors, that you can easily see in their Forum. I have done really, sincerely an excellent choice . I hope that I have given my personal contribution to this fantastic community of this Forum and that i have returned at least something of the immese knowledge that this Forum has given to me.


Cordially,

Giovanni Colombo.

Janus Systems, a registered and authorized company under German law is pleased to announce, that our managed account "Project 1" is since 1st june 2010 exclusively available through one of the top notch US brokerage firms PFG Best.

Find attached the 1 year audited and independently verified live trading record of the managed account as published by PFGBEST in their managed account database.

http://cta.pfgbest.com

Also note, that notional funding of 50% is available upon request to interested investors.

The managed account is designed for stable and steady returns with very low drawdowns.

Please feel free to contact PFG Best directly for further information.

Janus Systems

If anyone has questions about PFGBEST as an FX Broker or needs to set up please feel free to send me a PM

An update on this ?

We have Janus System as one of the Trade Leaders on Currensee, they are very professional and you can choose any broker supported by us to follow them.

Here is their verifiable performance - http://app.currensee.com:80/forexper...rofile/JASMI.A

-- Asaf.

The Results on Currensee look a lot better than the Janus Trading performance PDF, but there may be several live accounts. Also, there seem to be a lot of complaints online regarding Currensee theoretical versus real trading results. It seems common for a Currensee "leader" will show decent monthly results while their Followers experience a significantly inferior return (or worse). Is this an execution problem, or some other issue?

Please let us explain several things:

1.The NFA has a very strict reporting policy, which is not easy to understand and will produce always lower results than actually achieved.
This comes from the fact that the returns have to be reported "weighted" among all accounts traded, including all proprietary accounts, by the actual account balance and adjusted for the performance fees(30%).
Furthermore the performance has to be adjusted for deposits and withdrawals during each month, which means, that accounts with lots of deposits always suffer in performance.
For further information please get familiar with NFA performance reporting requirements for CTA`s.

2.Both Currensee Trade leader accounts JASMI.A and JASMI.I are live accounts and can be seen here as well:

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/PFGManaged1

Account 1 represents JASMI.A

Account 2 represents JASMI.I

These accounts match 100% the published and reported results in Currensee.

3.Since a few days Currensee reports the execution quality for all Trade leaders with the term "correlation". Both of our accounts got rated "excellent".
Please read carefully directly from Currensee:

"Excellent, Good and Moderate are measures of historical correlation. This information will be updated at least monthly, based on the previous 2 months' data. A score of Excellent indicates we on average achieve 90% or greater of the Leader's performance, Good indicates on average we achieve between 70% and 90% of the Leader's performance, and Moderate indicates we achieve less than 70% of the Leader's Performance. These correlation ratings are based on the difference between an Investor's realized gain/loss on a trade and the Leader's gain/loss had the trade been the same size, using a weighted average of the correlation ratings on trades with a gain and trades with a loss."

4.We do use strategies, which are not execution critical, nor do we trade during low liquidity hours, often refered to as "Asian scalping" or "Gap session" trading.
Our trading is based on sound and proven strategies, methods and techniques also used at professional trading desks and banks.
We are not risking 100 points to make 5 points! We are aligning our trading with the major trend and like to trade with the orderflow of banks and financial institutions and do not take positions against the market.
Therefore our TakeProfits are typically 40-500 points away and execution risk is very low.

5.Unlike other firms we are providing full transparancy with our NFA Disclosure document, which is a CTA managed account requirement and we do follow the rules and regulations imposed by the Complience department of a major US brokerage firm, which solicits clients for our managed programs.

Hi guys,

here you have some very useful links that can help you to get very good informations about Janus Trading for all interested investors and traders:

Janus Trading Twitter page:

https://twitter.com/#!/JanusTrading

Janus Trading Facebook page:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Janus-...25412084210534

Janus Trading Forum/Blog:

http://www.janus-trading.eu/forum/index.php

Main email contact:

[email protected]


This is in my opinion one of the most reliable quantitative asset management firm that trade in Forex market that you can find today.

I have been "aware" of the Janus team for quite some time and have respect for them.
I would like to more about the accuracy of the data shown on Currensee as to the results from Janus.... Is the data displayed an accurate reflection of what someone would earn using Janus on Currensee.... understanding that the results shown do not include fess and sharing.

Webicknell,

let us take again the opportunity to make things very clear:

1.Our company and its managing director, as a CTA(Commodity Trading Advisor) are registered with the NFA and the CFTC.
Under current CTA reporting regulations, all trading accounts, no matter if proprietary or client money have to be reported on a monthly basis.

2.PFG Best offers 2 of our accounts as "managed account programs" to its clients and lists the performance not only in its CTA data base, but also distributes and is part to the CTA disclosure document, which is the equivalent to a prospectus. Please note that PFG Best is one of the largest US broker dealers and registered with the appropriate US regulatory bodies and that PFG Best actively solicits clients for our managed programs.

Both of the above performance figures are volume weighted and fee adjusted(30% performance fee already deducted)

3.We have registered several live accounts with Currensee in order to publish performance and the same accounts with MyFxBook to provide potential investors with the maximum possible transparancy of our trading. Potential investors can also verify, that these proprietary trading accounts are funded each well beyond 100 000 USD.

4.Our Company offers via Currensee`s Trade leader program investors the opportunity to copy our trades into their own accounts. We can not see the actual trading in each investor account, but we can see the P/L in each account and compare with our own trades. In order to quantify the quality of the "tracking" Currensee has implemented a function, which they call "Correlation", which gives a ranking how good/bad investor accounts track the Trade Leader account.
We do believe, that our trading style(no Gap session trading, large TP/SL, high liquid pairs) allows investors to follow our trades very closely and the record of Currensee investor account performance and the Correlation rating support that argument.

The best way to find out how good the Currensee "following" is would be to open a small live account with one of their supported brokers and try for a few days.
As a very first step a talk to Currensee would be apropriate.

You appeared to miss my point until the couple lines... I know about Janus and respect your abilities and integrity.

My question is more about the operation and accuracy of what Currensee says. I have done the ZuluTrade think and because if different brokers, slippage and reliability of their platform, I lost... I am sure some of it was "me".

I have opened a small account and will be testing.... Just do not like testing with real funds.

Thanks again

Webicknall,

we are not missing the point, because you are asking a question to the wrong party.

As with all Signal forwarding services aka Currensee, Zulutrade, Rentasignal, Tradency and more a few problems will always persist and the Signal providers can do nothing about them.

1.Execution quality depends mainly on two things:

a.)receiver feed and spread
If the Master account trades with a very low, variable spread broker and the receiver uses a high/fixed spread broker, results will be different

even more if:

-additional markup spread is paid by the receiver in order to pay for the service

-the signal providers trading strategies aim for many trades with small pip targets and not for few trades with large pip targets

b.)execution slippage

By now serious forex traders should have identified the broker dealers with questionable business practices!

2.From what we have heard and seen in our trading with Currensee, we believe that Curresee has already a good execution and is working on further improvements

The answer of whether or not an investor can copy the trades 1:1 is soley the responsibility of the company offering this service and not in control of the actual signal provider=in this case "us"
Therefore this question must be addressed to and answered by Currensee, not by us.

Is there some other way to find out more about JanusTrading? Their website etc do not tell us much at all, unless you sign up to become a paid member.
Thanks.

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/JanusTrading

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/PFGManaged1

https://twitter.com/#!/JanusTrading

http://www.facebook.com/JanusTrading

http://www.currensee.com/custom/prof...I&camp=default

Need more ?