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  • #1
  • First Post: Jan 6, 2011 12:22pm Jan 6, 2011 12:22pm
I have seen discussions in the past but I couldn't find any solution. Is anyone aware of an alternative MT4 order window? In particular, something that is MUCH smaller and doesn't occupy as much screen space?
  • #2
  • Jan 6, 2011 12:40pm Jan 6, 2011 12:40pm
Quoting kostas1
I have seen discussions in the past but I couldn't find any solution. Is anyone aware of an alternative MT4 order window? In particular, something that is MUCH smaller and doesn't occupy as much screen space?
By "order window", do you mean the terminal window?

If so, it could be coded as a series of text objects that reside in either a separate sub-window, or the main price window. If a separate sub-window, it's probably going to take approx the same amount of space as the the terminal, and if in the main price window, it will likely obscure, or be be obscured by, the price candles.

Provide some more detail and I'll give it some thought.
  • #3
  • Jan 6, 2011 2:04pm Jan 6, 2011 2:04pm
hey kostas..... one of the russians over on the metaquotes site had a method of changing the default size of some of the boxes..... i've long since lost the post though.....

the way your lot size keeps growing you might want to consider multiple monitors...... extend windows and you could move the order box to the second monitor so it'd be clean out the way......h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #4
  • Jan 6, 2011 2:20pm Jan 6, 2011 2:20pm
Quoting hayseed
hey kostas..... one of the russians over on the metaquotes site had a method of changing the default size of some of the boxes..... i've long since lost the post though.....

the way your lot size keeps growing you might want to consider multiple monitors...... extend windows and you could move the order box to the second monitor so it'd be clean out the way......h
Thanks for the info. I will try to search for the russian thingy. I've thought about the two screens but at this time I am mostly trading from work, so that is not an option. Also, I was thinking of trading through a big screen laptop (18'') when I am away so that stupid MT4 order window gets in the way.....
  • #5
  • Edited 3:36pm Jan 6, 2011 2:45pm | Edited 3:36pm
Quoting hanover
By "order window", do you mean the terminal window?

If so, it could be coded as a series of text objects that reside in either a separate sub-window, or the main price window. If a separate sub-window, it's probably going to take approx the same amount of space as the the terminal, and if in the main price window, it will likely obscure, or be be obscured by, the price candles.

Provide some more detail and I'll give it some thought.
Thanks for your response hanover. What I was imagining is if it was possible to shrink the order window like the image, with just the basics: Symbol, Volume, SL, TP, SELL, BUY, CLOSE (I don't even need the Instant Execution Option box). Could something like this be a standalone or included in a chart? Of course, that would be my ideal scenario. If you have any other suggestions/ideas please let me know.
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  • #6
  • Jan 6, 2011 3:46pm Jan 6, 2011 3:46pm
hey kostas..... do you have the order box up all the time waiting to send......

would moving the box off screen to a far corner be an option..... i've moved it to the right of the clock below..... so only a slight part is showing at the end of the red line..... you could drag it back fully visible in a second......

you can create what your after using objects, but it would be a pain to use......

i'm guessing hot keyed scripts are out of the question........h
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  • #7
  • Jan 6, 2011 4:01pm Jan 6, 2011 4:01pm
Quoting kostas1
Thanks for your response hanover. What I was imagining is if it was possible to shrink the order window like the image, with just the basics: Symbol, Volume, SL, TP, SELL, BUY, CLOSE (I don't even need the Instant Execution Option box). Could something like this be a standalone or included in a chart? Of course, that would be my ideal scenario. If you have any other suggestions/ideas please let me know.

It has to be a window outside of mt4, wich can be kept always on top.

Last year I developed such an alternate MT4 order entry screen to scalp the euro. It consists in an external .dll written in .NET (C#) and an .mt4 that communicate with the dll.
I don't use it anymore, because now I drag custom made scripts on the charts to open a positions, but if you are interested I can post the code for free.

However, keep in mind that you probably need to change the mt4 or the .NET code (or find someone to do it for you, don't ask me) to adapt it to your needs, as this is not a general product, but was built by me and only for me.

See the screenshot.
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  • #8
  • Jan 6, 2011 6:58pm Jan 6, 2011 6:58pm
Quoting kostas1
Thanks for your response hanover.......
Sorry, I misunderstood; I thought you meant the terminal.

MT4's order entry interface is primitive, IMO. Hence I'm planning on releasing a comprehensive visual order processing system within the next week or so. It consists of three modules: order create, modify and close. Multiple entry and exit levels are defined by moving lines on the screen, and order types are automatically and transparently taken care of, allowing the trader to focus on the technicals, while the software takes care of the numbers and the order placement mechanics. It calculates and displays pos size, risk, RR, etc in a number of customizable formats. The modify and close modules automate some fairly sophisticated MM-based exits.
  • #9
  • Jan 6, 2011 11:20pm Jan 6, 2011 11:20pm
Quoting jagui
It has to be a window outside of mt4, wich can be kept always on top.

Last year I developed such an alternate MT4 order entry screen to scalp the euro. It consists in an external .dll written in .NET (C#) and an .mt4 that communicate with the dll.
I don't use it anymore, because now I drag custom made scripts on the charts to open a positions, but if you are interested I can post the code for free.

However, keep in mind that you probably need to change the mt4 or the .NET code (or find someone to do it for you, don't ask me) to adapt it to your...
Jagui,
This looks nice. I would need only the top half of that window. Please post the code as we have some excellent coders in this forum. I am sure some kind soul can modify it.

Kostas
  • #10
  • Jan 6, 2011 11:21pm Jan 6, 2011 11:21pm
Quoting hanover
Sorry, I misunderstood; I thought you meant the terminal.

MT4's order entry interface is primitive, IMO. Hence I'm planning on releasing a comprehensive visual order processing system within the next week or so. It consists of three modules: order create, modify and close. Multiple entry and exit levels are defined by moving lines on the screen, and order types are automatically and transparently taken care of, allowing the trader to focus on the technicals, while the software takes care of the numbers and the order placement mechanics. It calculates...
This sounds exciting hanover. Judging from your previous work it should be a great tool. Looking forward for it.
  • #11
  • Jan 6, 2011 11:23pm Jan 6, 2011 11:23pm
Quoting hayseed
hey kostas..... do you have the order box up all the time waiting to send......

would moving the box off screen to a far corner be an option..... i've moved it to the right of the clock below..... so only a slight part is showing at the end of the red line..... you could drag it back fully visible in a second......

you can create what your after using objects, but it would be a pain to use......

i'm guessing hot keyed scripts are out of the question........h
Tried this too hay. It is not as convenient when I need to act quickly. My trades are more of the scalping type (10-15p per trade) so I need to react fast.
  • #12
  • Jan 7, 2011 5:53am Jan 7, 2011 5:53am
TraderHelper from FX Internals does some of what you want. www dot fxinternals dot com
  • #13
  • Jan 7, 2011 10:14am Jan 7, 2011 10:14am
Quoting scattergood
TraderHelper from FX Internals does some of what you want. www dot fxinternals dot com
Interesting tool but huge window again. Thanks scattergood.
  • #14
  • Jan 7, 2011 10:14am Jan 7, 2011 10:14am
Quoting jagui
Hi Kostas,

here is the code and the compiled project. Hope it will be useful.
It was developed and tested on WindowsXP SP3 only.

However, I think that hanover's work will be better...
Jagui,
Thanks for this. If I just want to try it the way it is on your image, where do I place what files?
  • #15
  • Jan 7, 2011 1:35pm Jan 7, 2011 1:35pm
smaller order window without tick chart
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  • #16
  • Jan 7, 2011 1:48pm Jan 7, 2011 1:48pm
How did you do that Sangmane ?
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  • #17
  • Jan 7, 2011 5:45pm Jan 7, 2011 5:45pm
I made a script to do something similar a while ago. (Rearranging the order window to make it smaller)

The code is not complete however, (several forms/windows/buttons etc. are missing, look for "unknown" in the source code) as I lost interest in it the project.

(It kind of works as it is, it's just that you won't see some error messages, warnings, reqoutes etc...)

But I'm posting it here anyway, as an example "howto". Maybe someone else feel like finishing it or just borrow some ideas.

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  • #18
  • Jan 8, 2011 2:44pm Jan 8, 2011 2:44pm
Quoting sangmane
smaller order window without tick chart
Sangmane,
This is better than the original window. Is the code available for posting?
Thanks,
Kostas.
  • #19
  • Jan 8, 2011 2:46pm Jan 8, 2011 2:46pm
Quoting LastViking
I made a script to do something similar a while ago. (Rearranging the order window to make it smaller)

The code is not complete however, (several forms/windows/buttons etc. are missing, look for "unknown" in the source code) as I lost interest in it the project.

(It kind of works as it is, it's just that you won't see some error messages, warnings, reqoutes etc...)

But I'm posting it here anyway, as an example "howto". Maybe someone else feel like finishing it or just borrow some ideas.

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/LV
LV,
IF we could remove the graph window, that would be exactly what we need. Thanks for posting it, I hope some coder can modify it by removing the graph and then we are all set. Obviously, if you ever get a chance to remove it yourself, we would appreciate it if you could post it.
Kostas
  • #20
  • Jan 8, 2011 3:41pm Jan 8, 2011 3:41pm
Quoting kostas1
Jagui,
Thanks for this. If I just want to try it the way it is on your image, where do I place what files?
You only need the file "Metascalper_MT4_dist.zip", the other file is needed only to modify and recompile the projetc.

Put the content of the zip file into the expert/libraries and expert/scripts folders of your mt4 installation. Then restart mt4 and drag the script "Metascalper" onto a chart to open the order dialog.
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