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  • #341
  • Dec 14, 2010 10:26am Dec 14, 2010 10:26am
[quote=Caillou;4242718]Hi,

"After a lot of versions tested, once again I changed my opinion (http://cdn.forexfactory.com/images/s.../yim/happy.gif). Until today, the most interesting version of all Phantom EAs (just my opinion) is Phantom_AddSix_03bx_CLTHPS /quote]

Today CHF pairs were the major contributors to Phantom Six performance. That is the main advantage of having six pairs in the set up. This EA is well balanced in this respect I feel.
"Put all your efforts in becoming effortless"
  • #342
  • Dec 14, 2010 10:30am Dec 14, 2010 10:30am
[quote=IamTHAT;4242832]
Quoting Caillou
Hi,

"After a lot of versions tested, once again I changed my opinion (http://cdn.forexfactory.com/images/s.../yim/happy.gif). Until today, the most interesting version of all Phantom EAs (just my opinion) is Phantom_AddSix_03bx_CLTHPS /quote]

Today CHF pairs were the major contributors to Phantom Six performance. That is the main advantage of having six pairs in the set up. This EA is well balanced in this respect I feel.

  • #343
  • Dec 14, 2010 3:28pm Dec 14, 2010 3:28pm
Exactly 24 hours ago, I started with Phantom_AddSix_03bx_CLTHPS, 500:1, MMTU: 0.4, PP: 1.0, CLM: 2.0, the rest False. 4% up, max DD: -1.51%.

Anyone who's testing the same version has had the same beautifull day?
  • #344
  • Dec 14, 2010 3:48pm Dec 14, 2010 3:48pm
Quoting Toothman
Thanks for all the testing you've done. Could you post the EA or script you made to do your testing? What version are you testing? What hours seem to be optimum? thanks
Hi Toothman,

I found that the first few hours of LO/FO were best for "seeing" the trend of the day. After that you have to hope that you can get enough trend to get you your x%... if not then you will be in DD until it moves enough... so the idea is to get in when the big money is getting in and seeing the direction at the start of the day.

Some pairs move alot during asian only and those could be traded at the start of tokyo. Didn't explore that because of spread... but I would guess there would be LESS headfakes because of less retailers playing those instruments.

I'm still in testing phase and code is very messy... there are problems around feb 2010 and flash crash 2010... maybe a volatility filter can help... or to reduce margin per trade commensurate with volatility levels.

Jag
  • #345
  • Dec 14, 2010 3:58pm Dec 14, 2010 3:58pm
Quoting navk
Phantom_addsix_03bx_CL_TH_PS :

MY setting:
MMTU: 0.4, PROFITPCT : 1.0
Pip step : 15
Trading hrs : false
Cutlooser anabled and cut looser multiplier : 2.0

The first basket closed but not 1 %, instead it closed at 2 %. I am running addsix_2a also and this time it closed with profit 2.6 % my setting 1.0. Surprising.

Frezard?
The market can move that much during closure, for or against your account. It's exaggerated when trading with lot sizes that are relatively large for the account size. We see a lot of people using standard lot sizes with small accounts like $3,000. Things both good and bad are magnified in those cases.
Open to new approaches.
  • #346
  • Dec 14, 2010 8:21pm Dec 14, 2010 8:21pm
Quoting Caillou
Exactly 24 hours ago, I started with Phantom_AddSix_03bx_CLTHPS, 500:1, MMTU: 0.4, PP: 1.0, CLM: 2.0, the rest False. 4% up, max DD: -1.51%.

Anyone who's testing the same version has had the same beautifull day?
Yep, 4 closures on 14 Dec and 1 so far on 15 Dec - baskets of 3, 2, 2, 2, 2.

5% gain. But don't get too excited.. every day will not be like that.
Attached File(s)
File Type: xls TD_AddSix_03bx_500-1_MMTU-.4_PP-1.0.xls   159 KB | 305 downloads
Frazer
  • #347
  • Dec 14, 2010 8:44pm Dec 14, 2010 8:44pm
Quoting frazerd
Yep, 4 closures on 14 Dec and 1 so far on 15 Dec - baskets of 3, 2, 2, 2, 2.

5% gain. But don't get too excited.. every day will not be like that.
2bx_TH_CL_PH also has similar results yesterday.
  • #348
  • Dec 14, 2010 10:07pm Dec 14, 2010 10:07pm
Hello.
can you explain how you take the leading position I read through google translate and I found that this method seemed very interesting but some had great difficulty understanding it, so imagine a person who does not speak English difficulty so I sought from the creator or any other person assistance to understand this method I did a lot of effort, but frankly with google is not clear so you can tell me how to use this method of course if you wish otherwise, well too bad I could understand you have no time for that but one can support would be very nice of you.
thank you for your help

FRENCH

Bonjour.
pouvez vous expliquer comment on prend position j'ai lu la file grâce a google translate et j'ai constate que cette méthode avait l'air très intéressante mais que certains avaient beaucoup de mal a la comprendre alors imaginer pour une personne qui ne parle pas anglais la difficulté donc je sollicite auprès du créateur ou tout autre personne une aide pour comprendre cette méthode j'ai fait beaucoup d'effort mais franchement avec google c'est pas évident donc pouvez vous me dire comment utiliser cette méthode bien sur si vous le souhaiter sinon et bien tant pis je comprendrais que vous avez pas de temps pour cela mais un peut d'entraide serais très sympathique de votre part .
merci de votre aide
  • #349
  • Dec 14, 2010 10:42pm Dec 14, 2010 10:42pm
Quoting MetaCoder
The market can move that much during closure, for or against your account. It's exaggerated when trading with lot sizes that are relatively large for the account size. We see a lot of people using standard lot sizes with small accounts like $3,000. Things both good and bad are magnified in those cases.
Thanks for ur reply. My a/c size is 5000 and standard lot size 0.1. Is this right or should be reduced? Thanks.
Intraday only.
  • #350
  • Dec 14, 2010 11:36pm Dec 14, 2010 11:36pm
Hi Frazerd
Can you please tell me how to calculate the size lot will be open with phantoms EAs depends on standard account ,mini,or micro?
Is there a formula for that?
best regards
Fred
Quoting frazerd
Yep, 4 closures on 14 Dec and 1 so far on 15 Dec - baskets of 3, 2, 2, 2, 2.

5% gain. But don't get too excited.. every day will not be like that.
  • #351
  • Dec 15, 2010 12:20am Dec 15, 2010 12:20am
Quoting frazerd
Yep, 4 closures on 14 Dec and 1 so far on 15 Dec - baskets of 3, 2, 2, 2, 2.

5% gain. But don't get too excited.. every day will not be like that.
  • #352
  • Dec 15, 2010 10:44am Dec 15, 2010 10:44am
Quoting fredgold3434
Hi Frazerd
Can you please tell me how to calculate the size lot will be open with phantoms EAs depends on standard account ,mini,or micro?
Is there a formula for that?
best regards
Fred
I think there is a formula, but I don't know what it is. I have seen some posts on the Art Phantom thread referring to a formula. Maybe Caillou can help you.
Frazer
  • #353
  • Dec 15, 2010 11:19am Dec 15, 2010 11:19am
Quoting frazerd
I think there is a formula, but I don't know what it is. I have seen some posts on the Art Phantom thread referring to a formula. Maybe Caillou can help you.

Yes, but I only remember for standard accounts. I think it is:

Lot size: Balance * (MMTU/100) * (Leverage/100.000)

100.000 is for Standard accounts, for mini or micro I don´t know, sorry.

Maybe looking at the code, we could find it. I will check it.
  • #354
  • Dec 15, 2010 12:48pm Dec 15, 2010 12:48pm
Quoting Caillou
Lot size: Balance * (MMTU/100) * (Leverage/100.000)

100.000 is for Standard accounts, for mini or micro I don´t know, sorry.
MC can you shed a little light on this?

Based on this formula, Tadawul apparently rounds down for their .05 increments. I started my account with $4000, which plugged into that formula would be .08 lot size. My initial lots were .05. Now that the balance is over 5000 the lot size is .1. It should not change again until my account balance is 7500 = .15 lot.
Frazer
  • #355
  • Dec 15, 2010 2:50pm Dec 15, 2010 2:50pm
The whole standard vs micro problem is still confusing, but aside from opening that can of worms again...
the last time I did the calculations to figure out what damn lotsize it was going to open, it was (leverage/10000) not 100,000.
I made a script that would just print (MarketInfo(Symbol(),MODE_LOTSIZE));
so I knew what the ea was using, and it was 10,000
  • #356
  • Dec 15, 2010 3:02pm Dec 15, 2010 3:02pm
Quoting tazmaan
The whole standard vs micro problem is still confusing, but aside from opening that can of worms again...
the last time I did the calculations to figure out what damn lotsize it was going to open, it was (leverage/10000) not 100,000.
I made a script that would just print (MarketInfo(Symbol(),MODE_LOTSIZE));
so I knew what the ea was using, and it was 10,000
For Standard Accounts it's 100.000, not 10.000. My initial lot size is always 0.2, not 2 !!!
  • #357
  • Dec 15, 2010 3:43pm Dec 15, 2010 3:43pm
Like I said, it depends on what your broker returns for the line I mentioned above.
Referring to whether your broker is a 'standard, mini or micro' account in the same fashion as MC does, is confusing, as it's not the typical definition.

Drop that line into a script and see what it returns, if its 100,000 use that, if its 10,000 use that
  • #358
  • Dec 16, 2010 2:23am Dec 16, 2010 2:23am
Hello
I have several questions if I bother you said to me I understand no problem: D

what EA should be taken?
should open as many as there are pairs graph?
I put the EA on the chart or on any one?
orders are manually?
TP and SL manual? how determined?
where is information about which operation to do?
TF is important because I am often 5MN TF?
my broker is to zero GMT this matter?
I would have other issues if it does not bother you too: D

cordialy

FRENCH

Bonjour
j'ai plusieurs questions si je vous embête dite le moi je comprendrais pas de problème

quel EA il faut prendre ?
il faut ouvrir autant de graphique qu'il y a de paires ?
je met l'EA sur tout les graphique ou sur un seul ?
les ordres se font manuellement ?
TP et SL en manuel ? comment on le détermine?
ou se trouve l'information pour savoir quel opération faire ?
le TF est important car je suis souvent en TF 5MN ?
mon broker est a zero GMT cela a une importance ?
j'aurais d'autres questions si cela ne vous embête pas trop
  • #359
  • Dec 16, 2010 10:42am Dec 16, 2010 10:42am
Quoting MetaCoder
The market can move that much during closure, for or against your account. It's exaggerated when trading with lot sizes that are relatively large for the account size. We see a lot of people using standard lot sizes with small accounts like $3,000. Things both good and bad are magnified in those cases.
Sir,

My compliments to you in having conceived the Phantom specie of basket trades.

I have downladed and tested a few of the EA versions submitted in the various threads on the subject.

All of the EAs contain variables inputs for Sunday = 0, Monday =1, Tuesady=2 etc each with an ascending number.

Could you please tell me what these variable inputs relate to?

Further, could a coder use these inputs (or create others) to control the number of baskets that the EA closes on each particular day after which number the EA will not trade on that particular day. There are some traders, like this writer, who is happy with 2 basket closures per week day.

Thank you for the generous donation of your time.
  • #360
  • Edited 3:16pm Dec 16, 2010 2:34pm | Edited 3:16pm
[quote=frazerd;4237873]Here are all the AddSix EAs with the Close Loser (CL), Trading Hours (TH) and Pip Step (PS)

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Hi Guys,

I pipped in once in a while in this thread to check in what is new going on. I did demo several EAs a month back and working well except the DD and then get bored. It look like the CL is a new feature to the system which I think if I am not mistaken to address problem related to DD. My question is how do you define a CL in terms of lossing pips? Does the EA will automatically closed a loser when it reach a certain ?? pips (+sread)? Closing a position early on when it shows going south against your position is a good money management technique but the disadvantage on the other hand it is not given enought time to mature.

Thanks for these EA, will resume demoing them.

Edd
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