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  • #961
  • Dec 2, 2010 9:38am Dec 2, 2010 9:38am
Quoting navk
Euro/usd is a sell pair, euro/jpy is a "buy", usd/jpy is a sell pair. ThIS EA has been placing only euro/jpy and usd/jpy and closing fast for me.
Yes, start time for loading EA is important for first closure.....
  • #962
  • Dec 2, 2010 9:53am Dec 2, 2010 9:53am
Hello,
great work,thanks all friends who are so helpfull to improve this EA, however I am not the expert on so many codes and I need really some understable language and helps here. I following this thread since one week and read all posts. So I am many confused of many coders to improve several versions on the EA which are changed since the first post. Even the EA becomes another profile for one pair, but I prefer the three pair option, however now I am considering to follow the 'ART_PHANTOM_FULL_TH_CL_PS' more like the Light version. My problem is :
I used this version on a 5 digit platfom. My original platform is with 4 digits. The matter is my broker not allows me to use an EA, so I try to watch the entries on 5 digit and used them on my real account on with 4 digits. However as I am not confidence how that will be effecting, I am not trading it in real in the moment. The other problem is my real account Metadrader allows in minimum 0.1 lot trading. Thats a hug different with the demo 5 digit platform as this one allows 0.01 micro lots. I would like to understand if I find a 4 digit platform for demo, will this EA react like the same like it does now. Where I need to change the specifications of lots . In the 5 digit platform it opens now 0.02 lot entries, but inside the preferences Lots is 0.1. Use Smallest lots is false. Why if my demo acccount is 5.000 USD, it presents me LAST FLAT BALANCE of 10.000 USD. The other thing is on the demo account the leverage is 100:1 but on the chart it is written 50:1 leverage, a confused point.
Sorry, I am not in such experience like many people here in this thread, but I want to use this EA on my Original platform with settings below:
100:1 leverage
0.1 minimum lot entry
Balance of 5000 USD
4 digit platform
MMTU is that appliying for a stop loss, or for the entry sizes of lots? How that counts as well.
I can find a 4 digit demo platform, but I need to understand firstly this basic explanations.

Sorry for my less knowledge..
" Accepting losses is the most important single investment devise "
  • #963
  • Dec 2, 2010 10:01am Dec 2, 2010 10:01am
DD now @ 19.2% and rising
  • #964
  • Dec 2, 2010 10:07am Dec 2, 2010 10:07am
Quoting freedom48
Hello,
great work,thanks all friends who are so helpfull to improve this EA, however I am not the expert on so many codes and I need really some understable language and helps here. I following this thread since one week and read all posts. So I am many confused of many coders to improve several versions on the EA which are changed since the first post. Even the EA becomes another profile for one pair, but I prefer the three pair option, however now I am considering to follow the 'ART_PHANTOM_FULL_TH_CL_PS' more like the Light version. My problem...
Hello Freedom48,

MMTU is for entry lots sizes, according to type of account, balance and leverage.
If I remember well for a standard account the formula is: Lot Size = Balance * (MMTU/100)*(Leverage/100.000).
Just make sure min increase for your broker is 0.01, because if balance increase, Lot size will increase....

Try on your demo account differents MMTU and see Lot size....
  • #965
  • Dec 2, 2010 10:18am Dec 2, 2010 10:18am
Quoting dambuster
DD now @ 19.2% and rising

Hi Dambuster, I´m really sorry, since it´s your live account.

Maybe it will recover but if I were you, I will try to help the EA.

I´m not absolutely convinced of this strategy but with a -19,20% DD, I think you have to do something.

What I suggest is to apply a cut looser strategy, for example you can close manually each trade with a loss = 2 * Profit Target.

I have no tested that but I know that someone on the other thread is doing that with good results. Finally EA will close all basket with the same Equity Profit Target so the loss is only temporary.

Please if you do that could you share how is it going ? It could be a very good test.......

Thank you and I think this could help.
  • #966
  • Dec 2, 2010 10:25am Dec 2, 2010 10:25am
Quoting Caillou
Hi Dambuster, I´m really sorry, since it´s your live account.

Maybe it will recover but if I were you, I will try to help the EA.

I´m not absolutely convinced of this strategy but with a -19,20% DD, I think you have to do something.

What I suggest is to apply a cut looser strategy, for example you can close manually each trade with a loss = 2 * Profit Target.

I have no tested that but I know that someone on the other thread is doing that with good results. Finally EA will close all basket with the same Equity Profit Target so the loss...
DD now 20.3 but will start doing that and report back, thanks for the advice Caillou
  • #967
  • Dec 2, 2010 10:31am Dec 2, 2010 10:31am
Quoting navk
Art_phantom_full_TH_CL_PS :

Another one closed. 5368 $.
Art_phantom_full_TH_CL_PS :

Another one closed. 5432 $ !.
Intraday only.
  • #968
  • Dec 2, 2010 10:33am Dec 2, 2010 10:33am
[quote=navk;4216386]Art_phantom_full:

Mine also still running with a max DD of 13.56 % and 22 open trades. If i go live, i will not go with this version as we all seen the max DD reaching up to 18 % and no guarantee that it will get closed.

quote]

Art_phantom_full:

DD - 17.5 %, 22 Open trades.
Intraday only.
  • #969
  • Dec 2, 2010 10:41am Dec 2, 2010 10:41am
Quoting freedom48
Hello,
great work,thanks all friends who are so helpfull to improve this EA, however I am not the expert on so many codes and I need really some understable language and helps here. I following this thread since one week and read all posts. So I am many confused of many coders to improve several versions on the EA which are changed since the first post. Even the EA becomes another profile for one pair, but I prefer the three pair option, however now I am considering to follow the 'ART_PHANTOM_FULL_TH_CL_PS' more like the Light version. My problem...
If possible change broker and change account type.
It will be very risky to trade with 0.1 lot size on live account with less balance.
  • #970
  • Dec 2, 2010 10:44am Dec 2, 2010 10:44am
About Cut Loss mod, my first opinion was not very positive, but after reading post 262 from Frazerd in "Phantom 6 System" thread, I think a bit different.

I recommend you to read that, make much sense to me the last paragraph.
  • #971
  • Dec 2, 2010 11:02am Dec 2, 2010 11:02am
hello you see my report,
all version profit system-
i like this-
best regards
vienna
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  • #972
  • Dec 2, 2010 11:18am Dec 2, 2010 11:18am
can someone explain the edge with this system ? you are taking a random start price and buy if it goes up and sell if it goes down. but if the market goes up and down in a range that keeps expanding to a point that your account blows out.

how can you avoid the big DD and the death trade.

with more pairs, chances of one pair getting into a good trend and hence help us reach the PP are more. with one pair, that chance is less plus the ideosynchrocies of that pair plays a major role.
  • #973
  • Dec 2, 2010 11:19am Dec 2, 2010 11:19am
Hi vienna,

Are you running all separately or some together with same magic number?

thanks

Quoting vienna
hello you see my report,
all version profit system-
i like this-
best regards
vienna
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  • #974
  • Dec 2, 2010 12:03pm Dec 2, 2010 12:03pm
i was a silent viewer and tester for this thread, but i think that this is the time to participate and share my results! I would like to thank everyone who has contributed in creating this EA specially Caillou!

I am using the full version in the 1st post on my live trading account. Leverage is 1:100.
I set the lot size to constant 0.01 , MMTU=0.2 , and PP=0.1%

0.1% on my 2000$ account yields a PP of 2$ which means 20 pips. I have started the EA on 23rd of November and just closed the last basket today. A total of 470 pips were made during this period. I know that it is not alot of money by using 0.01 lot size , but still it is profitable , and no worries about the DD since the lot size is small. i have had 2 big DD during the test period and the maximum was 550 pips.

Thank you all, Keep it up!
  • #975
  • Dec 2, 2010 12:07pm Dec 2, 2010 12:07pm
Quoting poltroni
i was a silent viewer and tester for this thread, but i think that this is the time to participate and share my results! I would like to thank everyone who has contributed in creating this EA specially Caillou!

I am using the full version in the 1st post on my live trading account. Leverage is 1:100.
I set the lot size to constant 0.01 , MMTU=0.2 , and PP=0.1%

0.1% on my 2000$ account yields a PP of 2$ which means 20 pips. I have started the EA on 23rd of November and just closed the last basket today. A total of 470 pips were made during...
Hi Poltroni,

Thank you.

Did your EA recover from those big DD without any mod?
  • #976
  • Dec 2, 2010 12:10pm Dec 2, 2010 12:10pm
Quoting roundrock
can someone explain the edge with this system ? you are taking a random start price and buy if it goes up and sell if it goes down. but if the market goes up and down in a range that keeps expanding to a point that your account blows out.

how can you avoid the big DD and the death trade.

with more pairs, chances of one pair getting into a good trend and hence help us reach the PP are more. with one pair, that chance is less plus the ideosynchrocies of that pair plays a major role.
Now we are testing this, the edge of 3 pairs and 1 pair version. Normally if the market is range, all pairs will range so the problem is not solve with more pairs in my opinion......
  • #977
  • Dec 2, 2010 12:15pm Dec 2, 2010 12:15pm
Quoting Caillou
Hi Poltroni,

Thank you.

Did your EA recover from those big DD without any mod?
Yes Caillou. I have not done anything or closed any trades which are in loss. Usually i try to close the EA if there are no open baskets at 7:00 PM europe and start it again next morning. but if it is in DD , then i just leave it to recover by it self
  • #978
  • Dec 2, 2010 12:20pm Dec 2, 2010 12:20pm
Quoting navk
Art_phantom_full_TH_CL_PS :

Another one closed. 5432 $ !.
Art_phantom_full_TH_CL_PS :

Another one closed. 5489 $.

Sorry guys, only i am making profits today.
Intraday only.
  • #979
  • Dec 2, 2010 12:37pm Dec 2, 2010 12:37pm
Quoting navk
Art_phantom_full_TH_CL_PS :

Another one closed. 5489 $.

Sorry guys, only i am making profits today.
Yes, I think you are the only one. Congratulations !!!!
  • #980
  • Dec 2, 2010 12:54pm Dec 2, 2010 12:54pm
Hi Vienna,

what are the settings you used in the Complete Version for A,B,C,D and how long was it traded, I not saw the trade history just on this chart only the profit. You used a demo platform 4 digits with micro lots of 0.01. Is the complete version Light or full
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