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  • #941
  • Dec 2, 2010 5:15am Dec 2, 2010 5:15am
Quoting Caillou

Yes, Art_Phantom_Full without any filter could produce a very serious DD.
Yes, now 24 open trades since Monday and over 18% DD wwith no end in sight, only digging itself deeper and deeper into the $h1t
  • #942
  • Dec 2, 2010 5:18am Dec 2, 2010 5:18am
Quoting sayembara
I suggest post the latest PS, or CL, etc version on front page for easy access. Now I'll use the attachment window to get the file with latest date.
Untill we define the best version, I think it is better to let post 1 like it is now, otherwise this page would be full of versions......

For now, in my opinion, maybe Light Version would be my choice to go live but it is too early yet.... the higher the TF, the less noise.....
  • #943
  • Edited 7:11am Dec 2, 2010 6:50am | Edited 7:11am
Quoting tazmaan
Here's the backtest you wanted.
Do with what you will
As a note of interest, the h1 same settings made a little more profit, without the massive dd that almost busted the account (and probably would have in real trading).
I saw the tester report and discover one thing.
The EA has to close the winner trades first, and then the losers.
At this time the EA close the trades randomly.(the first trade will be the first closed trade...)
Is it correct? Or am I an idiot? (this is not so important?)
Develop the old ways! Backtest with 25% quality... JOKE!
  • #944
  • Dec 2, 2010 7:23am Dec 2, 2010 7:23am
Quoting floydian666
I saw the tester report and discover one thing.
The EA has to close the winner trades first, and then the losers.
At this time the EA close the trades randomly.(the first trade will be the first closed trade...)
Is it correct? Or am I an idiot? (this is not so important?)
yes, thats a good point, we should close winners first and then losers. right now it closes the order in which they are created.

closing orders is a pain and in backtest it takes time. we can close by position or by ticket number. if you use position, then you close 1, the position of rest changes and next order position may not be same as what you are expecting.

i am using ticket number to close.
  • #945
  • Dec 2, 2010 7:26am Dec 2, 2010 7:26am
Quoting Caillou
My Single Pair Phantom EA in forwardtest didnīt work well. Since yesterday afternoon it only opened a Sell trade, and it would be opened some Buys trades.......
So Iīm not sure that it works properly.

Finally, Art_Phantom_Full recovers and closed 23 trades with +1.91% (during closing, market moves in our direction). But I still think the PipStep mod is a must.
can you check the Phantom Start Price in the screen ? if the price goes above this, buy should be placed provided all its prev buys are in profit

today my SPP closed one pop.
  • #946
  • Dec 2, 2010 7:38am Dec 2, 2010 7:38am
Quoting navk
Art_phantom_full_TH_CL_PS :

Another one closed. Equity 5152 $.Max DD remains 0.58 %.
Art_phantom_full_TH_CL_PS :

Three baskets got closed since yesterday. Present balance : 5271 $ up by 5.4 % since 30/11 ( 2 days.), Max DD : 2.91 %.

A/C opened with 5000 $ leverage 500 :1, MMTU : 0.5, PROFIT : 1.0. PIP STEP : 10, Cut looser and trading hrs : false.
Intraday only.
  • #947
  • Dec 2, 2010 7:52am Dec 2, 2010 7:52am
Does somebody know how to add a "max floating profit" in the screen.
I would like it to reset after an equity pop.
  • #948
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:03am Dec 2, 2010 8:03am
Quoting navk
Art_phantom_full_TH_CL_PS :

Three baskets got closed since yesterday. Present balance : 5271 $ up by 5.4 % since 30/11 ( 2 days.), Max DD : 2.91 %.

A/C opened with 5000 $ leverage 500 :1, MMTU : 0.5, PROFIT : 1.0. PIP STEP : 10, Cut looser and trading hrs : false.
Art_phantom_full_TH_CL_PS :

Another one closed. 5315 $.
Intraday only.
  • #949
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:14am Dec 2, 2010 8:14am
Quoting JulesvH
Does somebody know how to add a "max floating profit" in the screen.
I would like it to reset after an equity pop.
Hit the key board button F3, delete all variables, then go to experts, properties and change Profit factor.
Intraday only.
  • #950
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:19am Dec 2, 2010 8:19am
Quoting navk
Hit the key board button F3, delete all variables, then go to experts, properties and change Profit factor.
No, thats not what I mean.
In the EA's, you can see the "max. floating drawdown" (Since the EA is attached) I would like someting simular, but for the max floating profit in a session (from eauity pop till equity pop) For visual reference. It may help finding an optimal PP. (only when it is set to high)
  • #951
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:26am Dec 2, 2010 8:26am
Glad to see that others are having several porifitable closures

sadly mine is still on 24 open trades an MaxDD now at 18.6%

Art_phantom_full
  • #952
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:30am Dec 2, 2010 8:30am
Quoting dambuster
Glad to see that others are having several porifitable closures

sadly mine is still on 24 open trades an MaxDD now at 18.6%

Art_phantom_full
Art_phantom_full:

Mine also still running with a max DD of 13.56 % and 22 open trades. If i go live, i will not go with this version as we all seen the max DD reaching up to 18 % and no guarantee that it will get closed.

I suggest you try the new version : Art_phantom_full_TH_CL_PS. It has pip step option and that helps the EA to place trades in right direction.
Intraday only.
  • #953
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:33am Dec 2, 2010 8:33am
Quoting navk
Art_phantom_full:

Mine also still running with a max DD of 13.56 % and 22 open trades. If i go live, i will not go with this version as we all seen the max DD reaching up to 18 % and no guarantee that it will get closed.

I suggest you try the new version : Art_phantom_full_TH_CL_PS. It has pip step option and that helps the EA to place trades in right direction.
Thanks Navk, will certainly do that as soon, or if, this basket closes as I am on a live account
  • #954
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:37am Dec 2, 2010 8:37am
Quoting roundrock
can you check the Phantom Start Price in the screen ? if the price goes above this, buy should be placed provided all its prev buys are in profit

today my SPP closed one pop.
one more pop on my SPP

MMTU 0.2, leverage 200:1, PP 0.5 10k standard account
  • #955
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:41am Dec 2, 2010 8:41am
Quoting JulesvH
Does somebody know how to add a "max floating profit" in the screen.
I would like it to reset after an equity pop.
i added that code in my phantom addsix series. it doesnt help much exept you know it went into profit before going down and resulting in big DD
  • #956
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:44am Dec 2, 2010 8:44am
Quoting navk
Art_phantom_full_TH_CL_PS :

Another one closed. 5315 $.
Art_phantom_full_TH_CL_PS :

Another one closed. 5368 $.
Intraday only.
  • #957
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:59am Dec 2, 2010 8:59am
Quoting roundrock
can you check the Phantom Start Price in the screen ? if the price goes above this, buy should be placed provided all its prev buys are in profit

today my SPP closed one pop.

I will test again...
  • #958
  • Dec 2, 2010 9:00am Dec 2, 2010 9:00am
Quoting Caillou
How many open trades did you have ? The more trades open, the more risk to close with a % different that your PP.....
It was around 20 open trades....(1 day of floating). Can consider this as isolated or random luck.
  • #959
  • Dec 2, 2010 9:08am Dec 2, 2010 9:08am
Quoting navk
Art_phantom_full_TH_CL_PS :

Another one closed. 5368 $.
I have exactly the same EA, same settings except MMTU: 0.4 (no big difference). Mine now max DD: -6,07%, floating P/L: -451,02.-$ (10.000.-$ demo account), waiting for its recovery....
  • #960
  • Dec 2, 2010 9:18am Dec 2, 2010 9:18am
Quoting Caillou
I have exactly the same EA, same settings except MMTU: 0.4 (no big difference). Mine now max DD: -6,07%, floating P/L: -451,02.-$ (10.000.-$ demo account), waiting for its recovery....
Euro/usd is a sell pair, euro/jpy is a "buy", usd/jpy is a sell pair. ThIS EA has been placing only euro/jpy and usd/jpy and closing fast for me.
Intraday only.
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