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  • #541
  • Nov 26, 2010 2:19pm Nov 26, 2010 2:19pm
Done.
Have 2 open trades.
  • #542
  • Nov 26, 2010 4:32pm Nov 26, 2010 4:32pm
Quoting roundrock
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here you go...

i am not placing the welcome trades (buy, short) on startup. i dont see any value with it. rest is as per your spec. as this is FULL version, it trades every 30 min

pl be aware i didnt test this at all. let me know any issues
This is completely different than phantom...Really gr8 man. I would suggest to start new thread to monitor its performance. I havent check what changes you have made but i am planning the same method with two pairs EU and UC.

Well another disturbing thing in this ea is 'profitpac' something like that.. Can u replace this with simple take profit target in dollars?
  • #543
  • Nov 26, 2010 4:33pm Nov 26, 2010 4:33pm
Quoting roundrock
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here you go...

i am not placing the welcome trades (buy, short) on startup. i dont see any value with it. rest is as per your spec. as this is FULL version, it trades every 30 min

pl be aware i didnt test this at all. let me know any issues
Thanks Roundrock. this version should work on the MT4 backtester - but I can;t get it goning. Can anyone else get it to work on backtester??

(Hedging with broker on backtester not an issue.)

Tim
  • #544
  • Nov 26, 2010 5:35pm Nov 26, 2010 5:35pm
Question,

Using all symbol trades in profit- What happens if you have a sell trade and the market reverses. Your sell trade is now at a loss. If its at a loss how will the EA make a buy trade when it checks and see that all trades for pair in profit? Or am I missing something here? Its been a long day.
  • #545
  • Nov 26, 2010 6:08pm Nov 26, 2010 6:08pm
I updated my EA to include some of Tim's suggestions for testing.

new ea is 2a.

Haven't done the 3 pair thing... do it in 2b maybe.
  • #546
  • Nov 26, 2010 8:00pm Nov 26, 2010 8:00pm
Hi guys,

I set my live APLite "stop after trade" input to true after taking 1% and I didn't reset the input due to the US bank holiday-Thanksgiving.

My question is, do I reset global variables for the week to follow this weekend or leave it as is?

Pete
  • #547
  • Nov 26, 2010 8:10pm Nov 26, 2010 8:10pm
Quoting Caillou
With these results if I go live, it is clear for me: Light Version is sure more safe but with better gain, no doubts.
Maybe we have discarded too early Light Version, if market goes in our favour Full Version would perform better, but if not, Light Version would be more stable....
So in the long run, Light Version could be the winner......

Excellent report
I am still running demo's on Lite and Full and still believe that the Lite version has greater merit:

https://www.myfxbook.com/portfolio/phantomlite/65693

https://www.myfxbook.com/portfolio/phantomfull/65700

Pete
  • #548
  • Nov 26, 2010 8:40pm Nov 26, 2010 8:40pm
Quoting thorn
Question,

Using all symbol trades in profit- What happens if you have a sell trade and the market reverses. Your sell trade is now at a loss. If its at a loss how will the EA make a buy trade when it checks and see that all trades for pair in profit? Or am I missing something here? Its been a long day.

good point. i fixed it
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File Type: mq4 Art_Phantom_Full_EU.mq4   52 KB | 346 downloads
  • #549
  • Nov 26, 2010 11:56pm Nov 26, 2010 11:56pm
ZZ, will it be very difficult for you to test it with "pipstep" incorporated?

in other words, a previous position of a pair xxxyyy MUST have at least "pipstep" floating profit to open a new position, instead of merely > 0. in this way, EA does not open multi positions at similar level.

my feeling is that using very small MMTU, plus "pipstep", the EA seemingly should be very difficult to get in high DD.

Quoting zznbrm
We'll have to see how this 1 pair EU Full strategy does in forward testing. However, my preliminary backtests were not very promising. Very similar to the 3-pair Full strategy backtests. I hope my data is wrong...time will tell.
  • #550
  • Nov 27, 2010 12:16am Nov 27, 2010 12:16am
1. extreme, default pairs
2. full default pairs
3. light default pairs
4. full, default pairs, but with pipstep 20 (started late, wednesday I believe)

All started with 1000, 300:1 leverage, .4 mmtu, 1 pp

Stats after one full week (except #4):
1. 4 closures, current balance 1040 (up 4%), current odd -$32 (3.2%), max dd 9.3%
2. 7 closures, current balance 1077 (up 7.7%), current odd -$40 (4%), max dd 8%
3. 4 closures, current balance 1040 (up 4%), current odd +$4 (0%), max dd 8.8%
4. 0 closures, current balance 1000, current odd -$2.5 (.25%), max dd 1.9%
  • #551
  • Nov 27, 2010 12:36am Nov 27, 2010 12:36am
Quoting sidhujag
I updated my EA to include some of Tim's suggestions for testing.

new ea is 2a.

Haven't done the 3 pair thing... do it in 2b maybe.
Thanks Jag, I will have a look at it.

Tim
  • #552
  • Nov 27, 2010 1:24am Nov 27, 2010 1:24am
Quoting timmy
Thanks Roundrock. this version should work on the MT4 backtester - but I can;t get it goning. Can anyone else get it to work on backtester??

(Hedging with broker on backtester not an issue.)

Tim
Impossible for me too....
  • #553
  • Nov 27, 2010 1:27am Nov 27, 2010 1:27am
Quoting pedross
I am still running demo's on Lite and Full and still believe that the Lite version has greater merit:

https://www.myfxbook.com/portfolio/phantomlite/65693

https://www.myfxbook.com/portfolio/phantomfull/65700

Pete
For now I agree with a best Light Version Performance
  • #554
  • Nov 27, 2010 3:14am Nov 27, 2010 3:14am
Is it possible to reduce our exposure to risk?Maybe. What do you think about this....

Our biggest risk situation comes when we have an unbalanced basket (for example 5 Buys, 1 Sell) and then the pair goes down. What about if the EA check the Ratio Buys/Sells and when it reach a certain level (4, 5,...) (we have to fix this or made as an option) it closes the basket as soon as the P/L becomes positive (no matter how much) ?

Of course we will loose some winner baskets but we will avoid the most risk situations.
  • #555
  • Nov 27, 2010 4:03am Nov 27, 2010 4:03am
Quoting Caillou
Impossible for me too....

Can't backtest too.
Not really a coder(though learned some java in the past), but it seems the EA is still keeping track of all the other symbols etc with plenty of related variables(same for art phantom), might that be the problem?
  • #556
  • Nov 27, 2010 4:05am Nov 27, 2010 4:05am
Quoting Caillou
Is it possible to reduce our exposure to risk?Maybe. What do you think about this....

Our biggest risk situation comes when we have an unbalanced basket (for example 5 Buys, 1 Sell) and then the pair goes down. What about if the EA check the Ratio Buys/Sells and when it reach a certain level (4, 5,...) (we have to fix this or made as an option) it closes the basket as soon as the P/L becomes positive (no matter how much) ?

Of course we will loose some winner baskets but we will avoid the most risk situations.
I think this mod with Charvo' s Pipstep could decrease DD very significatively.

Roundrock, could you help us one more time to make Art_Phantom_Full_Ratio_Pipstep_EU (we would change the name obviously) ?

Thanks in advance
  • #557
  • Nov 27, 2010 4:06am Nov 27, 2010 4:06am
Quoting zealvix
Can't backtest too.
Not really a coder(though learned some java in the past), but it seems the EA is still keeping track of all the other symbols etc with plenty of related variables(same for art phantom), might that be the problem?
Maybe....
  • #558
  • Edited Nov 28, 2010 1:26am Nov 27, 2010 10:02am | Edited Nov 28, 2010 1:26am
i rewrote the code so that we can backtest. this is a single pair phantom strategy, you can drop to any chart any timeframe. it will trade that pair and that timeframe. if you drop it on EU 1 Hr chart, then it will trade EU pair and adds are done on start of the hour. if you drop it on 30min chart then it trades every 30 min at start of bar

when you start EA , it remembers the current price. then at start of the next bar, if the pair has moved up (with respect to start price), and if all prev Long trades are in profit then it will add a Long. same thing on short side. if total PL exceeds the Percentage Profit it will close the basket and resets the start price and new cycle starts...

i need to do lot of cleanup of code, but its working. MMTU, PP can be changed as you like.

now i request all of you to tweak the MMTU, PP to come up with the results. need analysis on how many max trades opened for any big DD. In such situation if we reduce the MMTU, does it solve the DD issue without effecting the profitability.

we need to come to conclusion on whether the idea will work at all in all market conditions ? if so, what would be the ideal MMTU, PP for a given leverage, account balance

with this EA, you can backtest and also firward test on demo.

PLEASE BE AWARE THIS IS NOT SUITABLE FOR LIVE TRADING. I cant guarnatee its bug free.
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File Type: mq4 Single Pair Phantom.mq4   17 KB | 307 downloads
  • #559
  • Edited 11:06am Nov 27, 2010 10:28am | Edited 11:06am
with 10k account 200:1 leverage, MMTU 0.2 (lotsize 0.1), PP 1%


H1 chart

Nov 2010. i got 10 pops. that means 10% profit

M30 chart

Nov 2010. i got 22 pops. that means 22% profit


on H1 chart, i tested from Jan 01 2010 till date, account didnt crash. it ended up with 70% profit
  • #560
  • Nov 27, 2010 10:52am Nov 27, 2010 10:52am
Quoting roundrock
with 10k account 200:1 leverage, MMTU 0.2 (lotsize 0.1), PP 1%

Nov 2010. i got 10 pops. that means 10% profit
Hi Roundrok, excellent work as always. I' m not at home now. Do you have more results: 6 months, this year, ....

Would it be very hard to code with Rate and Charvo' s mod in order to backtest it?

Thank you
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