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  • #521
  • Edited 10:37am Nov 26, 2010 10:23am | Edited 10:37am
My report about lighter version (phantom3_suv)

Initial balance 5000 $, 200:1.
Demo opened on 17/11
Total trading days untill today : 8
Settings : MMTU -0.6, Profit 1.0.
Max dd : 6.51%, Lowest margin-420%
Total profits for 8 trading days - 975 $ ( 19.5 % )
Profit /day - 122 $, ( 2.44 % )

art-phantom_full:
Initial balance : 5000, 200:1 leverage
Demo opened on 26/11
Total trading days :1
Settings: MMTU 0.5, Profit 1.0
Total profit : 149 $ (3 % )
Profit/day 3%
Max dd : 0.57 %, lowest margin 3890 %
Intraday only.
  • #522
  • Nov 26, 2010 10:24am Nov 26, 2010 10:24am
Quoting mallim
Is it that if your initial balance is large, the different timings have to be use?

For example, my account is 3000 USD ( then MMTU 1 and PPCT 1 ) running extreme is okay however might not be so once the account hits > 5000 USD?
I think it all depends of your appetite for risk, this week we have had very good days for this type of EAs, so no problem for Full Version but if worst days comes, and they will come, Full Version could stock more trades, more DD and psychologically Light Version could be less stressful especially if you go live.

Maybe if somenone wants to go live, he could start with Light Version, and when slowly you trust this EA, then jump to Full Version, always if Full Version shows in the long run a better performance than Light Version, thing that has not yet done.
  • #523
  • Nov 26, 2010 10:27am Nov 26, 2010 10:27am
Quoting navk
My report about lighter version (phantom3_suv)

Initial balance 5000 $, 200:1.
Demo opened on 17/11
Total trading days untill today : 8
Settings : MMTU -0.6, Profit 1.0.
Max dd : 6.51%, Lowest margin-420%
Total profits for 8 trading days - 975 $ ( 19.5 % )
Profit /day - 122 $, ( 2.44 % )
Navk, what is your max DD for Light Version ? Could you post resuts for Full and Light together? Thank you
  • #524
  • Nov 26, 2010 10:29am Nov 26, 2010 10:29am
Good morning all, please, maybe a bit off topic, will we have problem as MT5 going to replace MT4 soon. Even though I asked my broker about it, they said they'll provide both platforms, but i dont trust them as they are pure sales ppl.

any inputs are welcome


good trading!

LP
  • #525
  • Nov 26, 2010 10:30am Nov 26, 2010 10:30am
Quoting Caillou
Navk, what is your max DD for Light Version ? Could you post resuts for Full and Light together? Thank you
i edited my above post, have a look.
Intraday only.
  • #526
  • Nov 26, 2010 10:34am Nov 26, 2010 10:34am
Quoting roundrock
pl tell what you want. i can spend some time over the weekend.
Hi Roundrock,

We need to modify Art_Phantom_Light or/and Art_Phantom_Full to trade only EUR/USD.

EUR/USD must be in Phantom Buy Group and in Phantom Sell Group. Then when we run the EA a Phantom Buy Trade and a Phantom Sell Trade for EUS/USD begin. Each 60 min (at 15) or/and each 30 min (at 15 and 45) if the Phantom Trade is in profit and if all previous Real Trades are in profit then the EA opens a Real Trade (Buy or Sell).
The trades would be closed when we reach the PP profit.

Would it be very difficult to code this ?

Thank you
  • #527
  • Nov 26, 2010 10:36am Nov 26, 2010 10:36am
Quoting JulesvH
I made this mod, which has all the options as Art_Phantom_Timings_&_Cut_Losers-version from The Game.

The display is changed to my preferences.
"TradeonMinute A,B,C and D" input
"Open_Loss_To_CloseTrades" input.
EDIT: CHARVO'S PIPSTEP IS ALSO ADDED. If you don't want to use it, set it at a low number like 1 (Don't know for sure if setting it to zero will cause problems) We have to test or maybe Charvo knows.

If you already downloaded it. Please download this version so you have the latest one.
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File Type: mq4 Art_Phantom_Complete.mq4   55 KB | 308 downloads
  • #528
  • Nov 26, 2010 10:44am Nov 26, 2010 10:44am
calliou:
In my opinion both vesions are good and keep the MMTU preferably 0.5 and Profit 1.0. What i have seen DD does not seem to be an issue but at times the margin. So keeping low MMTU should help.

I kept MMTU 0.6 for lighter version and trades placed with 0.1 standard lot, so at worst i faced low margin 420 %. DD should not be an issue as the basket recovers from worst situation.
Intraday only.
  • #529
  • Nov 26, 2010 10:53am Nov 26, 2010 10:53am
Yes as I said it is just less stressfull psychologically, but this is a very good reason too, we have to trade confident and relaxed. If gain is similar, less trades and less DD is determinant:
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  • #530
  • Nov 26, 2010 10:59am Nov 26, 2010 10:59am
O ye, Jag, I had very similar story. The system capturing retraces, doing martingale, OR SEEKING SURVIVOR LUCK will explode right after I finished "nice" backtesting/demoing and started LIVE.

now i realised that it is a rule, it is not about luck. it definitely happens.

Quoting sidhujag

A little story... I made a scalping EA for EURCHF... called it the super scalper it hadn't lost since 1999 in backtest and FWD test for 6 months. It made 1000% every year because of big lot sizes... however the SL was set to something like 20% of my account. I went live and it hit SL 2 weeks after I started. I couldn't handle the fact that an SL was hit so I doubled down (that was the Greece incident)... and eventually had to manually intervene to get myself out after like 80% of my margin used.
  • #531
  • Nov 26, 2010 11:22am Nov 26, 2010 11:22am
Quoting Caillou
Hi Roundrock,

We need to modify Art_Phantom_Light or/and Art_Phantom_Full to trade only EUR/USD.

EUR/USD must be in Phantom Buy Group and in Phantom Sell Group. Then when we run the EA a Phantom Buy Trade and a Phantom Sell Trade for EUS/USD begin. Each 60 min (at 15) or/and each 30 min (at 15 and 45) if the Phantom Trade is in profit and if all previous Real Trades are in profit then the EA opens a Real Trade (Buy or Sell).
The trades would be closed when we reach the PP profit.

Would it be very difficult to code this ?

Thank you
i can code this but cant test it as my broker doesnt allow same pair hedging
  • #532
  • Nov 26, 2010 11:30am Nov 26, 2010 11:30am
Quoting roundrock
i can code this but cant test it as my broker doesnt allow same pair hedging
No problem for me, I could test with my broker.

If this EA works good, I think I have a solution for US residents.

We need 2 Eas in 2 different accounts, then we can create an EA1 (Buy EUR/USD) on account 1 with real trades of account 1, and phantom trades of account 2 and when the P/L of real and phantom trades reach the PP, it will close the real trades of this account ( and the same for the opposite EA2 (Sell EUR/USD) on account 2). I donīt know if I had explained well.....

Well before this, if you could code it, I will test to see its performance.

Thank you very much
  • #533
  • Edited 1:26pm Nov 26, 2010 12:15pm | Edited 1:26pm
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Quoting roundrock
i can code this but cant test it as my broker doesnt allow same pair hedging

here you go...

i am not placing the welcome trades (buy, short) on startup. i dont see any value with it. rest is as per your spec. as this is FULL version, it trades every 30 min

pl be aware i didnt test this at all. let me know any issues
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File Type: mq4 Art_Phantom_Full_EU.mq4   52 KB | 252 downloads
  • #534
  • Nov 26, 2010 12:16pm Nov 26, 2010 12:16pm
I can also test it
  • #535
  • Nov 26, 2010 12:20pm Nov 26, 2010 12:20pm
Quoting roundrock
here you go...

i am not placing the welcome trades (buy, short) on startup. i dont see any value with it. rest is as per your spec. as this is FULL version, it trades every 30 min

pl be aware i didnt test this at all. let me know any issues
Woauuuu, Roundrock, you make me soooooo happy!!!!!

I will test right now......
  • #536
  • Nov 26, 2010 12:28pm Nov 26, 2010 12:28pm
I shall test too .
Intraday only.
  • #537
  • Nov 26, 2010 12:28pm Nov 26, 2010 12:28pm
it placed the first order (buy) 13 min back
  • #538
  • Nov 26, 2010 1:04pm Nov 26, 2010 1:04pm
Quoting roundrock
it placed the first order (buy) 13 min back
It seems work absolutely perfect, I have an incredible feeling with this one.....
  • #539
  • Nov 26, 2010 1:04pm Nov 26, 2010 1:04pm
pl take the latest EA from same post. i fixed a bug
  • #540
  • Nov 26, 2010 1:41pm Nov 26, 2010 1:41pm
Quoting roundrock
pl take the latest EA from same post. i fixed a bug
Done. Will start test on Monday Morning........
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