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  • #361
  • Nov 25, 2010 4:05am Nov 25, 2010 4:05am
Quoting Caillou
Hi The-Game,

What I wanted is for example if start time is 7h00 (London Time), at 7h00 the EA starts running as usual. If end time is 17h00 (London Time), the EA will manage the basket if a basket is already trading till it takes profit and when it takes profit it will stop running till 7h00. If at 17h00 there is no basket trading, then the EA will stop till 7h00.

Tell if I made it clear now.

Thank you
Yeah, this is what we need. I assume The-Game's mod does it this way??? (Can't run new version until equity pop)

Tim
  • #362
  • Nov 25, 2010 4:06am Nov 25, 2010 4:06am
Quoting the-game
Do it yourself using my instructions in my post above this one
thanks. am a little confused. have your Full-timings & cut losers on demo,in Strategy it is supposed to open every 30 min, but it opens every 15 !? is this the xtreme version ?
  • #363
  • Nov 25, 2010 4:09am Nov 25, 2010 4:09am
Today a copy of yesterday: lots of trades during Asian Session and recovery in London Session.
Gain: + 9,15 %, max DD: -5,22% (4,58% daily)

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Serg...tom-full/65746

Could not close EA before Asian Session because basket was not in profit.....

Sometimes the more trades you have, the quicker the recovery is.....
  • #364
  • Nov 25, 2010 4:11am Nov 25, 2010 4:11am
Quoting timmy
Yeah, this is what we need. I assume The-Game's mod does it this way??? (Can't run new version until equity pop)

Tim
Yes, I hope so.
  • #365
  • Nov 25, 2010 4:13am Nov 25, 2010 4:13am
Quoting vanupips
thanks. am a little confused. have your Full-timings & cut losers on demo,in Strategy it is supposed to open every 30 min, but it opens every 15 !? is this the xtreme version ?
Yes, I looked at the code and it is the Extreme version (every 15min), although the name says it is the Full version.
  • #366
  • Nov 25, 2010 4:28am Nov 25, 2010 4:28am
I have a suggestion :
If we ad the pipstep on this last EA, but we put different values on Asian session, ex: 5 pip for london and US, but 20 pip for Asian, like this if the EA is still open in Asian session and continues trading but is ranging, it doesn't cluster with to many trades.
  • #367
  • Nov 25, 2010 4:44am Nov 25, 2010 4:44am
Quoting vanupips
I have a suggestion :
If we ad the pipstep on this last EA, but we put different values on Asian session, ex: 5 pip for london and US, but 20 pip for Asian, like this if the EA is still open in Asian session and continues trading but is ranging, it doesn't cluster with to many trades.
Excellent obervation, we have to think: worthwhile trading in Asian Session ?
  • #368
  • Nov 25, 2010 4:54am Nov 25, 2010 4:54am
Quoting Caillou
Excellent obervation, we have to think: worthwhile trading in Asian Session ?
even if not, but the existing trades have to continue, this would lower DD and risk on those trades
another improvement on those remaining asian trades was mentionend before (I think it was your idea) is to lower PP to be
  • #369
  • Nov 25, 2010 4:57am Nov 25, 2010 4:57am
Quoting Caillou
Today a copy of yesterday: lots of trades during Asian Session and recovery in London Session.
Gain: + 9,15 %, max DD: -5,22% (4,58% daily)

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Serg...tom-full/65746

Could not close EA before Asian Session because basket was not in profit.....

Sometimes the more trades you have, the quicker the recovery is.....
Interesting - if i follow you correctly you closed out your Asian trade from yesterday (following big down leg) in this London session. I am still locked in a small DD and have not closed out at all today.

so i wanted to compare your risk to mine. I checked your results and worked back to find that you have a risk 6.6 times greater than what I am trading on my small live testing account.

Considerations:
Your max DD is 5.22% mine is 2.1% - there may be a good reason to trade high risk like you are on the basis that you will get 'boosted' quickly to profit, but there always lies the risk of the bigger DD than what my account is likely to see. However in the short testing period we have had - although you have over 6 times the risk you only have ~2 1/2 times the max DD to date. So the fact that your net pip target is 6.6 times lower than mine has got you clear of prolonged trade sequences and so when the break out to the positive direction occurs you can achieve it more rapidly.

(Of course it may all be due to different trade sequence start periods - but as time goes by this comparison will hold more and more weight.)

I am thinking that some sort of volatility filter could define the size of the risk. For example, what if the trade size was related to a basic ATR coefficient of some sort (it would hold across all pairs, and would change for each new trade sequence). I will think on this further.

The key here is we are looking to reduce the DD and not inhibit the pure function of the trading system.

Tim
  • #370
  • Nov 25, 2010 5:04am Nov 25, 2010 5:04am
Quoting Caillou
Today a copy of yesterday: lots of trades during Asian Session and recovery in London Session.
Gain: + 9,15 %, max DD: -5,22% (4,58% daily)

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Serg...tom-full/65746

Could not close EA before Asian Session because basket was not in profit.....

Sometimes the more trades you have, the quicker the recovery is.....
are you still trading with 0.4 mmtu (400 lev) and PP 1 ?
  • #371
  • Nov 25, 2010 5:08am Nov 25, 2010 5:08am
Quoting timmy
Interesting - if i follow you correctly you closed out your Asian trade from yesterday (following big down leg) in this London session. I am still locked in a small DD and have not closed out at all today.

so i wanted to compare your risk to mine. I checked your results and worked back to find that you have a risk 6.6 times greater than what I am trading on my small live testing account.

Considerations:
Your max DD is 5.22% mine is 2.1% - there may be a good reason to trade high risk like you are on the basis that you will get 'boosted' quickly...
As always brilliant thoughts Tim,

Untill we have modifications checked, I´m going to close manually (with script posted a few days ago) all my open trades from 17h00 (London Time) and remove the EA till 7h00 ONLY if my basket is in profit (small, big, whatever) but if the basket is in loss, I will let the EA running with "StopAfternotrades" option switch on. Then at 7h00, I will switch off this option.
  • #372
  • Nov 25, 2010 5:09am Nov 25, 2010 5:09am
Quoting vanupips
are you still trading with 0.4 mmtu (400 lev) and PP 1 ?
Yes, only Leverage is 500:1
  • #373
  • Nov 25, 2010 5:21am Nov 25, 2010 5:21am
Quoting timmy
Why bother reporting on the PhantomSix EA's we are all focused on the 3 pairs trading here......

We discussed the logic of trading fewer pairs and that the DD from 14 pairs (original) or 6 was going to be a greater than if three pairs were traded before we were asked to split off .... but people like to keep on with what they like - even if its against reason, so just keep posting those results on the other thread...

Tim
sorry I confused the thread -
I test everything -

I am banker and I have to do with professional systems
each EA will have losses -
why?
simply changes the trend - and no one can predetermine the market -
what is necessary -
large account - and minimal use more than 5% of the account -
there are already ea which are absolutely top in a 3-pair system
ye can not do better - whether or not trade asia not matter in a market that moves constantly-Anhören
Umschrift
best regards
vienna
  • #374
  • Nov 25, 2010 5:27am Nov 25, 2010 5:27am
Phantom_Full
Starting $10,000.
Leverage 100:1.
MMTU 0.8
PP 0.2
Profit $136.
DD -3.5%

Same trend here. Closed just one basket yesterday and then fighting hard to close the basket until now. First trade taken at GMT 12:45pm.
  • #375
  • Nov 25, 2010 5:30am Nov 25, 2010 5:30am
Quoting the-game
No use asking about stuff that hasn't been proven yet.

Only one way to find out... forward testing.
Hello, the-game, I think the robot you coded for us last night was the Extreme instead of Full? Because now I can see it opens trade at each : 00, 15, 30 and 45 min.

Maybe the full should only open at 15 and 30 min?

thanks

LP
  • #376
  • Nov 25, 2010 5:34am Nov 25, 2010 5:34am
Quoting vienna
sorry I confused the thread -
I test everything -

I am banker and I have to do with professional systems
each EA will have losses -
why?
simply changes the trend - and no one can predetermine the market -
what is necessary -
large account - and minimal use more than 5% of the account -
there are already ea which are absolutely top in a 3-pair system
ye can not do better - whether or not trade asia not matter in a market that moves constantly-Anhören
Umschrift
best regards
vienna
No problem Vienna.....
  • #377
  • Nov 25, 2010 5:55am Nov 25, 2010 5:55am
Caillou, that's how I coded it... Everything is fine.

timmy, what the??? I never asked for that crazy feature!
  • #378
  • Nov 25, 2010 6:01am Nov 25, 2010 6:01am
Quoting Low Profile
Hello, the-game, I think the robot you coded for us last night was the Extreme instead of Full? Because now I can see it opens trade at each : 00, 15, 30 and 45 min.

Maybe the full should only open at 15 and 30 min?

thanks

LP
My mistake, I will post in the morning.
  • #379
  • Nov 25, 2010 6:04am Nov 25, 2010 6:04am
Quoting the-game
Caillou, that's how I coded it... Everything is fine.

timmy, what the??? I never asked for that crazy feature!
Perfect, thank you very much.....
  • #380
  • Nov 25, 2010 6:15am Nov 25, 2010 6:15am
Quoting the-game
Caillou, that's how I coded it... Everything is fine.

timmy, what the??? I never asked for that crazy feature!
Probably confusion between what we were both thinking the mod was doing/not doing. If you really can be bothered refer to our dialogue in posts 251,252,253,and 261. I asked if it did one of two features and you said both, one of these features was exactly this function. I made the comment that if it was the case I wouldn't trade it with that function.

No big deal here - we had a lot going on and I was not sure of exactly what you were coding at the time and you probably weren't sure about what I was on about.... forget it and lets keep moving forward.

Tim
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