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  • #121
  • Nov 23, 2010 5:27am Nov 23, 2010 5:27am
Quoting sayembara
my Phantom_Extreme freezed for unknown reason after opening 4-5 trade. So, I will test the full version now after readting the potential

  • #122
  • Nov 23, 2010 5:34am Nov 23, 2010 5:34am
Quoting Caillou
Hello everyone,

I wake up this morning and I saw so many replies that I have to take time to read carefully.

Tim: as always very good observations. I think too a start and finish time entry could be a very good option for this EA. About % SL I donīt like it, but it is just my opinion, I think it is just a way to feel safer but for me it is more important to try to help the EA to recover for any serious DD situation or to avoid that. For example your Rebalancing Pairs Idea is absolutely brilliant. We need a coder for that.
Hi Caillou,
The only reason for an over all % SL is for a worst case scenario. I wouldn't want to run a large account with this (which I will do in due time), with out the comfort of, say a 20% drawdown emergency stop loss. Otherwise I agree with you.

This is why I am keen for some nice programmer to come along and code the recommendations we are considering. They should help create smaller DD's. (Although after 5 days I have had six closes through all types of markets and (so far) the DD has maxed out at a very mild -0.75 percent)

Tim
  • #123
  • Nov 23, 2010 5:42am Nov 23, 2010 5:42am
Quoting timmy
Hi Caillou,
The only reason for an over all % SL is for a worst case scenario. I wouldn't want to run a large account with this (which I will do in due time), with out the comfort of, say a 20% drawdown emergency stop loss. Otherwise I agree with you.

This is why I am keen for some nice programmer to come along and code the recommendations we are considering. They should help create smaller DD's. (Although after 5 days I have had six closes through all types of markets and (so far) the DD has maxed out at a very mild -0.75 percent)

Tim
Perfect. It could be an option, wich could be use or not. Iīm with you, I hope a programmer feel interest and code this suggestions.
Are you testing Full Version ?
  • #124
  • Nov 23, 2010 6:01am Nov 23, 2010 6:01am
phantom3.30_suv
setup 01 01 01
see the report
best regards
vienna
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  • #125
  • Nov 23, 2010 6:05am Nov 23, 2010 6:05am
Quoting vienna
phantom3.30_suv
setup 01 01 01
see the report
best regards
vienna
Hi Vienna,

Thanks for your results. Could you attach your files uncompressed, it would be quicker to open....
  • #126
  • Nov 23, 2010 6:23am Nov 23, 2010 6:23am
Quoting navk
Phantom3_suv :

Next basket got closed. Present equity 5668 $. Equity up by 13.3 % since 17 nov. 4 Trading days. 3.32 % per trading day. Cheers !
Two baskets got closed during europeon session. Present equity : 5787 $.

Equity up by 15.7 % in 4 trading days !

Today is 5 th day of trading this EA.

Cheers !
Intraday only.
  • #127
  • Nov 23, 2010 6:32am Nov 23, 2010 6:32am
Quoting navk
Two baskets got closed during europeon session. Present equity : 5787 $.

Equity up by 15.7 % in 4 trading days !

Today is 5 th day of trading this EA.

Cheers !
Congratulations !!!
  • #128
  • Nov 23, 2010 6:40am Nov 23, 2010 6:40am
Calliou:

In my demo a/c, the following seem to be doing well in that order :

1) Phantom3_suv
2)Phantom3_30_suv
3)Art_phantom_extreme.

The third one takes too many trades (presently 16,each 0.13 standard lot ).Max. DD - 4.69%, MIN margin 933 % on 500:1 leverage.The second one also takes more trades. Max DD 7.69 % Min lmargin 380 % on 100 : 1 leverage.

The first one, less trades in each basket and closes fast. Max DD 4.11 % and Min margin 729 % on 200:1 leverage.
Intraday only.
  • #129
  • Nov 23, 2010 6:48am Nov 23, 2010 6:48am
Quoting navk
Calliou:

In my demo a/c, the following seem to be doing well in that order :

1) Phantom3_suv
2)Phantom3_30_suv
3)Art_phantom_extreme.

The third one takes too many trades (presently 16,each 0.13 standard lot ).The second one also takes more trades.

The first one, less trades in each basket and closes fast.
Hi Navk,

Of course the more calls the more trades, thatīs why I have rejected Extreme version. Between Full and Light, Iīm not sure. My Art_Phantom_Full has just closed the first profit 1h30 later, we have to test more.
Obviously if with less trades we reach the same profit, better with less trades, letīs see.....
  • #130
  • Nov 23, 2010 6:59am Nov 23, 2010 6:59am
I agree with less focus on Art_Phantom_Extreme Caillou, due to greater DD and the sheer number of trades it opens, but the lite version still warrants attention... (all versions opened at the same time, one day after you)




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  • #131
  • Nov 23, 2010 7:04am Nov 23, 2010 7:04am
Quoting pedross
I agree with less focus on Art_Phantom_Extreme Caillou, due to greater DD and the sheer number of trades it opens, but the lite version still warrants attention... (all versions opened at the same time, one day after you)




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Yes Pete, Iīm with you, the question is between Full and Light Version, gain and max DD.........
  • #132
  • Nov 23, 2010 7:47am Nov 23, 2010 7:47am
Quoting pedross
I agree with less focus on Art_Phantom_Extreme Caillou, due to greater DD and the sheer number of trades it opens, but the lite version still warrants attention... (all versions opened at the same time, one day after you)




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Pete
what is your Profit taking? 1% ?
  • #133
  • Nov 23, 2010 9:12am Nov 23, 2010 9:12am
Quoting navk
art_phantom_full ( phantom3_30 ) : Since closing the fiirst basket at 4833 $, the second basket is yet close. 11 open trades, DD -5.05 %, Margin 626 %.

My settings : MMTU 1.0, Profit 1.0. standard a/c leverage 100 : 1. It trades with 0.05 standard lot.

calliou : my settings are ok?
phantom3_30 ;

Started with 4783 $ on sunday open.

Presently the equity is 4915 $. 2.75 % in 2 days. Not that bad, but opens many trades in a basket.
Intraday only.
  • #134
  • Nov 23, 2010 9:22am Nov 23, 2010 9:22am
May we add another modified version to the arsenal? OK, great. Artful_Phantom3_Calm_4D, or AP3C4D as we'll all come to know and love it, only takes new trades 4 times per day at GMT 0, 6, 12, 18.

It closed its first basket after the second trade group. 200:1 leverage, $6200 account using 0.4 MMTI & 1% PP. Max floating DD was 0.13%, lowest margin was 6767.95%. I'm also testing some other settings but I MUCH prefer this version so far.

I also think another EA could be used on the same account with this version as the numb.er of trades won't get out of control.

Testers anyone? Anyone?

Cheers !!
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  • #135
  • Nov 23, 2010 9:34am Nov 23, 2010 9:34am
@ Tim

My lot size 0.24 is actually due to the EA took my previous account balance value of $5000. I had 2000+ DD from last week using other phantom EAs. I guess that's how the EA's lot size got confused, because on Monday i shut down all other EA only start running 'Art Light'.

And this morning, US. Est, the basket recovered from -800$ to +$300 and closed. damn, is it luck or algorithm? I need demo more...

Caillou, and Tim, let me know if this is what you want:

when equity reach a negative %, close the biggest loser? or what ?

I did not want to cause unnecessary confusion/mess by adding different versions of EA, but i could try if a mod is advisable and agreed.
  • #136
  • Nov 23, 2010 9:37am Nov 23, 2010 9:37am
Quoting TradeRunner
May we add another modified version to the arsenal? OK, great. Artful_Phantom3_Calm_4D, or AP3C4D as we'll all come to know and love it, only takes new trades 4 times per day at GMT 0, 6, 12, 18.

It closed its first basket after the second trade group. 200:1 leverage, $6200 account using 0.4 MMTI & 1% PP. Max floating DD was 0.13%, lowest margin was 6767.95%. I'm also testing some other settings but I MUCH prefer this version so far.

I also think another EA could be used on the same account with this version as the numb.er of trades...
Hi TradeRunner

Thank you for this new version. Sure is very interesting. So it is like Art_Phantom_Full with calls each 6 hours. But donīt you think it might missed some big moves like today? And why 0, 6, 12, 18 and not 2, 8, 14, 20?
Sure we have to try but only 2 calls (6 and 12) during London Session I find it very little but time will say.....

Thanks again
  • #137
  • Nov 23, 2010 9:39am Nov 23, 2010 9:39am
Quoting TradeRunner
Testers anyone? Anyone?
Sure!!! Just let my 3rd batch close +++ as the 1st and 2nd and I'll go for it.
By the way, 100000 100:1 0.1 lots (0.2 when orders are made ???) 0.3PP 0.2MMTU made 613 in just 3 hours!!!!! I know I know 100k is far away from what I will trade Live but let me dream and push IT a little bit

cheers
  • #138
  • Nov 23, 2010 9:43am Nov 23, 2010 9:43am
Quoting charvo
@ Tim

My lot size 0.24 is actually due to the EA took my previous account balance value of $5000. I had 2000+ DD from last week using other phantom EAs. I guess that's how the EA's lot size got confused, because on Monday i shut down all other EA only start running 'Art Light'.

And this morning, US. Est, the basket recovered from -800$ to +$300 and closed. damn, is it luck or algorithm? I need demo more...

Caillou, and Tim, let me know if this is what you want:

when equity reach a negative %, close the biggest loser? or what ?

I did not...
Hi Charvo,

This is Timīs suggestion, not mine. I prefer Rebalancing Pairs Idea....
  • #139
  • Nov 23, 2010 9:45am Nov 23, 2010 9:45am
Demo Account Started 12h15 (GMT+2), Gain: 4,1%, just 4 hours, unbelievable, yes, I know too early but.....I feel good

More important is how quick it could recover from DD, this is the most important......
  • #140
  • Nov 23, 2010 9:48am Nov 23, 2010 9:48am
Quoting Caillou
Demo Account Started 12h15 (GMT+2), Gain: 4,1%, just 4 hours, unbelievable, yes, I know too early but.....I feel good

More important is how quick it could recover from DD, this is the most important......
Hi Caillou,

great result!
What were your settings?

Thanks,
Oliver
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