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  • #14,181
  • Nov 15, 2010 3:16pm Nov 15, 2010 3:16pm
Quoting dnabrasil
when you chek this direction, at what you are watching?
- the colour of the future kumo?
or
-where is the price (above or below kumo)?

what about if you have the price above a read kumo, or the price below a green kumo??

thank's in advance vic and all,
your's and other's support is very important for me...!!
you will need to check this post in the previous page
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...ostcount=14163
  • #14,182
  • Nov 15, 2010 3:46pm Nov 15, 2010 3:46pm
am i wright if i say that a cross-strong signal in 5m is important if it's near a change in kumo?
  • #14,183
  • Nov 15, 2010 3:52pm Nov 15, 2010 3:52pm
Quoting dnabrasil
am i wright if i say that a cross-strong signal in 5m is important if it's near a change in kumo?
well i think this way you will need like 200 eyes and 4000 mind and more than 100000 PC so u can follow all the changes that is happening on the higher TFs and then jump to the lower ones to see if there is a signal or not and then decide what pair u'll trade and a lot of things u gonna do which will for sure waste ur time and make u lose money

make it simple , just follow the direction of the 1hr and 4hrs , if the price is up start looking for your signal on the 5 mins or the 15 mins or whatever TF u use as your entry

trading is simple don't complicate it or even think that u can be the most clever one in the market and u'll catch the trend changes and this stuff

make it easy and FOLLOW THE TREND
  • #14,184
  • Nov 15, 2010 4:02pm Nov 15, 2010 4:02pm
ok,
you're right...
i have to keep it simple!!!!
  • #14,185
  • Edited 7:41pm Nov 15, 2010 4:42pm | Edited 7:41pm
Quoting dnabrasil
ok,
you're right...
i have to keep it simple!!!!
be smart , play it simple
  • #14,186
  • Edited 7:55pm Nov 15, 2010 5:19pm | Edited 7:55pm
Quoting vic_elc
i totally don't agree with the traders who say that the higher TFs wil not be helpful if you trade from a smaller one , cause simply this is a break for the golden rule TREND IS YOUR FRIEND

i am sure that you will end up adding another rule to your above points which is FOLLOW THE TREND cause if you are not following the trend then you are not making money !!!

1.Check the direction of the 1hr and 4Hrs chart
2. Wait for ts/ks cross above/below kumo in M5
3. Check chikou above/below kumo, else wait for chikou above/below...
Now we gonna speak about some extra rules to add in our list

first i'll group the entry rules ( entry signal- TP and SL ) and name them all ENTRY

so lets start our list

1- check the direction of the 1hr and 4hrs ( Trend is your friend )
2-Check the news !!!
yes we forgot that we are intraday traders and more over we trade based on technical analysis , this means that whenever there are news our analysis will not be accurate , so we better stay aside during the news , i pref to stay aside 30 mins before the news and 1hr to 2hrs after the news

3-Entry ( Entry signal, TP, SL )

Now we have our three golden rules
what we will need to do is make sure to mention the news in our sheet
sheet !!! what sheet vic ??!!!!!

the sheet i posted in here http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...ostcount=14161
but u think we will need this sheet !!!
YES WE WILL NEED IT EVEN MORE THAN THE MT4 ITSELF
this is the plan we will follow , this is our boss, this is the one who tells us to buy or sell or stay aside


what more extra rules we need ???!!
any one can help in this

cheeers
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  • #14,187
  • Nov 15, 2010 11:45pm Nov 15, 2010 11:45pm
Quoting vic_elc
Now we gonna speak about some extra rules to add in our list

first i'll group the entry rules ( entry signal- TP and SL ) and name them all ENTRY

so lets start our list

1- check the direction of the 1hr and 4hrs ( Trend is your friend )
2-Check the news !!!
[color=royalblue]yes we forgot that we are intraday traders and more over we trade based on technical analysis , this means that whenever there are news our analysis will not be accurate , so we better stay aside during...

Vic, sorry for asking but isn't Gu in a neutral mode, inside kumo on h4 and below kumo in h1, so mixed direction. Thx
  • #14,188
  • Nov 15, 2010 11:51pm Nov 15, 2010 11:51pm
Quoting Ichi Kid
I have the book on order from Amazon, been waiting for weeks for it. Hopefully it is worth the wait?
The book is pretty good. Unfortunately, I got the digital version and can't see the charts on my ipod due to size.
  • #14,189
  • Nov 16, 2010 12:26am Nov 16, 2010 12:26am
Quoting vic_elc
Now we gonna speak about some extra rules to add in our list

first i'll group the entry rules ( entry signal- TP and SL ) and name them all ENTRY

so lets start our list

1- check the direction of the 1hr and 4hrs ( Trend is your friend )
2-Check the news !!!
[color=royalblue]yes we forgot that we are intraday traders and more over we trade based on technical analysis , this means that whenever there are news our analysis will not be accurate , so we better stay aside during...
Hi master, welcome back. Maybe we are forgetting a couple of rules: not trade on Fridays and do not trade de UK market.
Cheers
  • #14,190
  • Nov 16, 2010 12:29am Nov 16, 2010 12:29am
Quoting huskyboy
Vic, sorry for asking but isn't Gu in a neutral mode, inside kumo on h4 and below kumo in h1, so mixed direction. Thx
don't be sorry for asking questions, be sorry for not asking

yes GU is in neutral mode , the pic i attached in the post is just an example , it doesn't show the real trend
  • #14,191
  • Nov 16, 2010 12:34am Nov 16, 2010 12:34am
so we have
- eur sell
- gu neutral
- aus sell
- uj buy
- ej neutral

so these are the directions for today and wait for entry's on m5 ?
  • #14,192
  • Nov 16, 2010 12:42am Nov 16, 2010 12:42am
Quoting huskyboy
so we have
- eur sell
- gu neutral
- aus sell
- uj buy
- ej neutral

so these are the directions for today and wait for entry's on m5 ?
i'lll make it easy to you , at the morning this is the way my MT4 screen looks like, i check the arrows on each pair and fill my sheet and then wait for my entry signal ( 5 mins cross , kumo break etc etc ) whatever is ur entry signal don't be afraid cause you will be following the trend

but vic this means that some days we will not find any signals !!
So what ?!!!! , this is a job like any other job , some days u have a lot of work load the other day you don't have any work and so on

so we better end the day with no trades rather than losing money
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  • #14,193
  • Nov 16, 2010 12:45am Nov 16, 2010 12:45am
Quoting vic_elc
what more extra rules we need ???!!
any one can help in this

cheeers
As seen from this trade, i got stopped out thou it was a strong bearish signal trading according to the H1 and H4 trend.

Extra rules to add?
How about determine the next support / resistance?
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  • #14,194
  • Nov 16, 2010 12:45am Nov 16, 2010 12:45am
Quoting hdelfino
Hi master, welcome back. Maybe we are forgetting a couple of rules: not trade on Fridays and do not trade de UK market.
Cheers
don't master me Hdelfino u can always call me Vic, am too young to be a master

yes you are right we still filling our rules , but i tell u a secret i trade the UK session now days , and i don't trade any other session.
if you are in control u can trade whenever u want , just follow the rules and you will for sure make a lot of money ,
Fridayss sometimes i do trade them if there is no important news and sometimes i don't trade them for the sake of having some rest

good luck
cheers
Vic <<<< vic only not master Vic
  • #14,195
  • Nov 16, 2010 12:52am Nov 16, 2010 12:52am
Quoting GeraldFX
As seen from this trade, i got stopped out thou it was a strong bearish signal trading according to the H1 and H4 trend.

Extra rules to add?
How about determine the next support / resistance?
there is nothing wrong with your trade !! , if you think that you gonna win them all then your veryy wrong , even if you are following the trend you will for sure lose, actually the only thing that i can grant in this market is losing money .
so don't think about the trades you lost , just keep trading
and never never never change your rules cause u lost a trade , stick with ur rules at least for 4 month and then u can judge it ur self

about the S/R levels : yes they are very important , specially for intrday traders like us ,it is always better to have any indicator that draw the S/R levels of the day.
i think Ichi360 made one and posted in here it is called predict pivot point u can use this one it is great

cheers
  • #14,196
  • Nov 16, 2010 12:52am Nov 16, 2010 12:52am
Quoting vic_elc
i'lll make it easy to you , at the morning this is the way my MT4 screen looks like, i check the arrows on each pair and fill my sheet and then wait for my entry signal (...
Dear Vic,

Any chances for sharing the indicator?
  • #14,197
  • Nov 16, 2010 12:59am Nov 16, 2010 12:59am
Quoting GeraldFX
Dear Vic,

Any chances for sharing the indicator?
we have several ichomoku signal and monitoring indicators inhere , u can use ay of them they do the same exactly as u see on my chart and more data is provided there also , the indicator i have on my chart is not mine, i have to request the creator first , if he agreed to share it in here i;ll post it
  • #14,198
  • Nov 16, 2010 1:09am Nov 16, 2010 1:09am
Guys we are 50 mins from london Fix
i think it is time to do my homework which is filling my sheet and get ready to start trading with london , i might not be able to post for a while cause i'll have to focus on the trades

once i have sometime i'll jump back and post again

cheeers
vic
  • #14,199
  • Nov 16, 2010 2:57am Nov 16, 2010 2:57am
Quoting vic_elc
i'lll make it easy to you , at the morning this is the way my MT4 screen looks like, i check the arrows on each pair and fill my sheet and then wait for my entry signal ( 5 mins cross , kumo break etc etc ) whatever is ur entry signal don't be afraid cause you will be following the trend

but vic this means that some days we will not find any signals !!
So what ?!!!! , this is a job like any other job , some days u have a lot of work load the other day you don't have any work and so on

so we better end the day with no trades rather than...
correct me if i am wrong but untill now there no valid signal on all the pairs giving a direction
  • #14,200
  • Nov 16, 2010 3:09am Nov 16, 2010 3:09am
Quoting huskyboy
correct me if i am wrong but untill now there no valid signal on all the pairs giving a direction
gbpusd just had a signal but its just 15mins away frm news.
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