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  • #21
  • Oct 31, 2010 8:21am Oct 31, 2010 8:21am
Looks simple and nice. Will try it in monday.
  • #22
  • Oct 31, 2010 8:56am Oct 31, 2010 8:56am
I have not seen this indicator repaint but then again i trade it according to the rules that i posted and if you follow the rules you will make money.

What you are failing to to see is not the importance of the indicator but multi timeframe trading.

If you want to trade this and see for yourself then do so, if not then don't.
MY GRID. Markets are NOT random.
  • #23
  • Oct 31, 2010 9:01am Oct 31, 2010 9:01am
There are no use to talk about repaint problem.

For myself,I just capture a image for GBPUSD for 5min with this system.After tomorrow market opened for 1-2 hours,I will have a check the new real time image.If the HTID repaint, the image will "say".

Guys,just wait for some hours,market will tell us the turth.
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  • #24
  • Oct 31, 2010 9:31am Oct 31, 2010 9:31am
Quoting Peretola
Many thanks Tony. The entry rules are clear, but how about exits? Maybe hold a trade till the change color of the HTID on M30 or based on HA behavior.
I hold the trade till i get the pips i want. if you want an exit you can use a close below or above the 5 ema on the 5 min chart or wait for a close above or below 5 ema on 30 min chart.

Each trader is different and has different goals or risk appetites. this is where you have to personalize it for you.
MY GRID. Markets are NOT random.
  • #25
  • Oct 31, 2010 9:35am Oct 31, 2010 9:35am
Quoting Indrek
It is logical. All indicators of this type repaint. Besides, I googled the indicator and found out that this indicator is being given as a "free bonus" for people who participate in a scammers webinar.
Not worth attention, is my conclusion.
Sorry i have wasted your time or rather sorry you have wasted your time posting your opinion before trying this out.
MY GRID. Markets are NOT random.
  • #26
  • Oct 31, 2010 9:48am Oct 31, 2010 9:48am
Everyone, you do not need a bunch of indicators to tell you when to enter. I use this one to confirm the HA candles. HA is my primary indicator. The HTID is slower than the HA, you can just as well use a moving average line to do the same thing that the HTID does (though i do not know the calculation).

Price movement on different timeframes is what really counts.
MY GRID. Markets are NOT random.
  • #27
  • Oct 31, 2010 9:49am Oct 31, 2010 9:49am
Quoting tonyb123
Sorry i have wasted your time or rather sorry you have wasted your time posting your opinion before trying this out.
No need to be ironic. 99.9% of stuff in FF is pure waste of time. But remaining 0.1% is worth of being around.
  • #28
  • Oct 31, 2010 10:05am Oct 31, 2010 10:05am
Hey Guys,

Just by looking at it on the chart one would think that it's a repainter. I won't say it definitely does, or doesn't repaint, in respect to the thread starter as he has claimed it does not. So i will have a look at it tomorrow and find out??? But my money is on it being a repainter. Or as someone said we have our Holy Grail
Even If It Is A Minority Of One, The Truth Is Still The Truth!!!
  • #29
  • Oct 31, 2010 10:16am Oct 31, 2010 10:16am
Hi Tony,

what pairs do you suggest to trade with this system?

Cheers,
Oliver
  • #30
  • Oct 31, 2010 10:27am Oct 31, 2010 10:27am
Quoting Indrek
No need to be ironic. 99.9% of stuff in FF is pure waste of time. But remaining 0.1% is worth of being around.
Yup Yup

There are multiple multiple MTF methods in FF, chart/method will not make you money, only you can do that, but dream on
  • #31
  • Oct 31, 2010 11:00am Oct 31, 2010 11:00am
Nothing to say anymore，the HTID is repaintd，i have test it by vhands for the history data！！！
  • #32
  • Oct 31, 2010 11:40am Oct 31, 2010 11:40am
Hi for all
hi Tony...
Thanks for sharing your strategy and every one can try it in demo account b4 confirmed it as own strategy in real one
either this indicator repainted or not all of us must confirm it
and you can but the indicator with any expert advisor and try to backtest in visual mode ( use template ... )
thanks 4 all
I'm not a programmer and i don't like ! , but only I try to catch my view !
  • #33
  • Oct 31, 2010 12:05pm Oct 31, 2010 12:05pm
I am so amazed at all the traders that are so concerned about an indicator repainting...

I do not care if it repaints or not, does the candle repaint?

can you see if it closed higher or lower than it's open?

can you see if it closed higher or lower that the previous candles open or close?

If this was not a BAR indicator you would not even be worrying about it.

I never said this was the HOLY GRAIL but with all the complaining and crying about repainting it seems like that's what you were expecting.

If the indicator gives you a signal on the 30 min chart can you not put a horizontal line at that open of the candle or price you got the signal and a verticle line on the candle, then drop down to a lower timeframe to comfirm if the indicators signal agrees with the price movement?

Quit crying and use the suggestion i just gave you. You will see you do not care what the past BARS do.



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MY GRID. Markets are NOT random.
  • #34
  • Oct 31, 2010 3:07pm Oct 31, 2010 3:07pm
Quoting tonyb123
I am so amazed at all the traders that are so concerned about an indicator repainting...

I do not care if it repaints or not, does the candle repaint?

can you see if it closed higher or lower than it's open?

can you see if it closed higher or lower that the previous candles open or close?

If this was not a BAR indicator you would not even be worrying about it.

I never said this was the HOLY GRAIL but with all the complaining and crying about repainting it seems like that's what you were expecting.

If the indicator gives you a signal...
Repainting issues are serious when you use an inidcator that repaints and you print charts with entry points that did not exist until the indicator updatet it self 2-5 bars later. MEANING... your entry is not there in real time. IF you had traded it.. you would have seen it!!! It took me a couple of minutes to see this. Also if you want to check before market open, open strategy tester, put any simple EA and use visual. Pause the tester and ad the indicator.. and you will probably also see there that it repaints.

So to spell it out to you.. You take a chart.. show entry signals on historic data with a inidcator that has repainted the history. Had you played the same chart in realtime, the signal would not have been there!! Stop being stupid!!! It repaints 2-5 bars bars when conditions change meaning the singal you point out is not there in real time but pops up 2-5 bars later when the indicator have repainted history!!!! MEANING your signal pops up much later and the signal is most probably not valid anymore.

You have not traded with this indicator or you are blind, but dont try to tell the fortune seekers here that this works when you dont know what you are working with or even trade your self..

So please close this thread or system.. it does not work the way you want to.. I'm guessing you had a bright light a friday evening and saw the holy grail and fast as lightning you posted on FF in search of hero status..
  • #35
  • Oct 31, 2010 3:11pm Oct 31, 2010 3:11pm
Quoting tonyb123
I do not care if it repaints or not, does the candle repaint?

can you see if it closed higher or lower than it's open?

can you see if it closed higher or lower that the previous candles open or close?
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Yeah.. there you have it, why dont we just take a long trade any time we get a higher high, or a short when we get a lower low.. hmmm.. why did not anyone think of that!?!?
  • #36
  • Oct 31, 2010 3:17pm Oct 31, 2010 3:17pm
Guys,
All indicators repaint on an open (current) candle. The question is does it repaint on a closed candle? Rather than being nasty at Tony, why don't we all check it for ourselves and decide whether the system is right for us - the market is going to open in less than 1 hour. Tony is sharing a system that is making money for him - we should be thankful and respectful for his contribution. If this is not the system for you, move on and keep looking like most of us do.
cheers, ForexMastery
  • #37
  • Oct 31, 2010 3:26pm Oct 31, 2010 3:26pm
Quoting ForexMastery
Guys,
All indicators repaint on an open (current) candle. The question is does it repaint on a closed candle? Rather than being nasty at Tony, why don't we all check it for ourselves and decide whether the system is right for us - the market is going to open in less than 1 hour. Tony is sharing a system that is making money for him - we should be thankful and respectful for his contribution. If this is not the system for you, move on and keep looking like most of us do.
it repaints 2-5 closed candels.. and that is even worse than Silvertrend..

You think he is making money with this? Whats wrong with you? How can you trade signals that are not there? I actually trade with real money full time and THIS would not be a system anyone would use with real money. Yeah you can get lucky the signal is valid a couple of hours later.. but do you want to trade a signal that is a couple of hours old? in forex that is like forever.. price can be hundreds of pips away by that time..

Repainting indicators should NOT be used in a strategy as a signal inidicator. And I dare to say that the author has not traded this him self..
  • #38
  • Oct 31, 2010 3:52pm Oct 31, 2010 3:52pm
look at the pictures.. the red arrow is at the same place all the time. and remember the authors rules.. get your signal at the 30M chart.. look in 5M for entry. the signal in 30M would be a couple of hours old when it does show up!?

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  • #39
  • Oct 31, 2010 4:18pm Oct 31, 2010 4:18pm
Quoting frankiev2
Yeah.. there you have it, why dont we just take a long trade any time we get a higher high, or a short when we get a lower low.. hmmm.. why did not anyone think of that!?!?

Before you crucify Tony, let us give it a real time test run. So far I am testing it on the M1 chart......, NO REPAINTING so far. I have not made my decision yet......., still testing.
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  • #40
  • Oct 31, 2010 4:22pm Oct 31, 2010 4:22pm
Folks, here is the proof.

IT DOES REPAINT. See the pic...!!!
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