THV system, final edition

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Thanks

You can put this little indie under your ADX indicator to see MTF's with values and direction. For the correct spread, of course, just use a mental decimal between numbers.


Regards,

Cigarguy

If you could see the source code I promise you that you would die laughing.

Hmmm still changing dots backward... My main timeframe H4. Help
see picture - on the left side SAH was attached to the chart at lunch ; on the right side I just attached the SAH to see if it the same as on the left side..And not. How is that possible? when I let the indie be, it not show correctly after few hour...

It was discussed a lot of times before.
Check MissPips posts. She explained it several times.
My English is not good enough to explain you this
But believe me it`s normal, and there is nothing we can do.
That`s why SAH is not very good in backtesing.

From your post I understand that it shows correctly only on the right side of indie. hmmm (I like backtesting it...produce thousands pips )

Ok all, last and FINAL stab at the repaint issue.

Here is an example.

In the first pic at the red line at 20:26 the 5 m fast and slow trix are red and the corresponding bars for those rows in the histo are red.


I verified that the trix itself on the five m chart matched what you can see on the mtf 5m trix. If you had been basing a decision to go short here at 20:26 to 20:28, whether you had been looking at the 5m chart itself OR the MTF trix on the 1m chart OR the trix histo you would have gone short based on what you saw at that moment.

In the next pic, you can see that the 5 m trix has repainted itself green at the red line marking the bar from 20:26 to 20:29. This is because in the very last minute of the 5 minute bar (20:29) there was a large enough up movement to change that bar to green. So the 5 MTF trix and the 5m trix itself closed green for that five minute bar, even though for three minutes of the five it was red.


NOTE THAT THE TRIX HISTO DID NOT REPAINT. IT IS STILL SHOWING YOU WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN IN REALTIME, WHICH IS THAT FOR 3 OF THOSE 5 MINUTES THE TRIX WAS RED.

Between the green bars a similar thing happend though I was not fast enough to catch a screen shot of the trix in a red state before it repainted to green. The trix histo still shows that the trix was red there for those minutes, though the trix later repainted itself to green. (When the trix is flat this can happen a lot, which is why it is best not to trade when the trix is flat).

Now here is another screenshot some minutes later. Note that the trix histo is still showing what had been the true situation if you had been making a decision in real time based on the color of the 5m trix at 20:26. No repaint in the histo though the trix has repainted.


And now I have inited the trix histo. Now it matches the trix itself. What do you know? It 'repaints'. This is because when it is added after the fact (or inited) it only knows the final outcome of the bar, and not what happened during each of the (for example) individual 5 minutes that make up the actual 5m bar. However if you had been making a trading decision in real time this is not what you would have seen. You would have seen that the trix was red for three of the 5 minutes. THIS IS WHY YOU CAN NOT USE THIS TYPE OF MTF INDICATOR FOR VISUAL BACKTESTING.


In addition to the above, the trix itself can go back and repaint itself one closed bar back where it is flat as shown in the pics below, which further complicates the issue because this would be another reason that the histo might not match the trix, even if the histo indie had not been initialized. However to the best of my knowlege the histo does not 'repaint' unless it is inited or added after the fact. Even it did (which I do not think that it does) as long as it does show you correctly what you would have seen had you been looking at the higher timeframe trix itself, then it is serving its purpose.
Below are some old screenshots showing the trix repainting a closed bar.




Deathless: I can see from your screenshots that the timestamp on the two versions of the indicator for the UCAD that you are comparing is different. Therefore, exactly like in the example above the values in the histo may differ because one was added at a different time than the other. If you can show me a screenshot where the timestamp is the same and the values differ for closed bars of the histo then I will agree that it repaints although as long as it actually showed you in realtime the true color of the higher timeframe trix at that moment then it's serving its purpose.

Note to all the folks who are now about to post screen shots showing that the trix histo bars don't match the actual trix - please make sure that the hot params match.

And one last note - in order to reduce memory usage, there is a limit (TrixNoofBars param) to how many bars the histo goes back. So even if you leave it running in realtime it wont show more than that number of bars correctly backwards.

Thank you MissPips for the detailed unswer You wrote about it also in post #20159 . I found it. Yes, I changed timeframe from H4to H1 and then switch it back to H4 on the right side and on the left side I do not change time frame from morning. How many bars "TrixNumberOfBars" you advise us (750 is default I thing)? I have dualcore 2.4GHz wiht 4GB ram, win7.
EDIT: I forgot one question. I have the same version of sah on both sides.. If you look at my picture, beter timestamp is in the left or right side USDCAD?

Ah, yes, I've written about it more times than I care to remember. The number of bars depends on the strength of your computer. Stronger - you can have more, weaker less. 750 is about half a day on the 1m chart so it also depends which chart you need. Neither timestamp is 'better'. The point I was making was that since they are different you can't necessarily expect the histos to match since one was keeping track of the trix in realtime and the other was added 'after the fact' with respect to the bars being kept track of by the first.

MissPips, you are the best again!
I`ve made a note of this post and
next time will address people with this question here. :nerd:

template with the EMA, which change color. I think that it is easier to understand. for 1M and 5M. Thanks to Miss Pips and Tread.

Nice Ozma!... I hope you caught those movements earlier ...lots of pips ...GBPCHF just keeps moving up.

missed ... thinking of TPL ...

Nice tpl ...

First time to trade on a live account with 2 of Miss Pips Indicators and the CaveManager 1.41, Happy with the resaults Thanks Miss Pips for the newest SAH version.

Thanks Arun. waiting for news from you

Nice Chart

Thanks,
Cigarguy

Nice consistent profit, high win ratio, 4 pairs. Very nice Neild. I think you have it

Keep it up.