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  • #501
  • Oct 25, 2010 9:29pm Oct 25, 2010 9:29pm
Quoting plateman
Yes, I'm getting a similar thing, multiple entries in the experts tab saying "market order EURGBP xxxxxxxx cannot be deleted" when that order number is that of an already open AUDUSD trade.
When you have a multi-currency EA like TB, some of the error messages which are autogenerated by MT4 will have the currency of the chart that the EA is on (not necessarily in reference to the trade it is on) , so the error message doesn't reflect what's happening. It is probably trying to delete an AUDUSD order which has already executed. If there is ever a choice, always believe the ticket number since that is the true unique identifier.

The problem is that some trade cannot be deleted because of various execution errors. This is why I use (shameless plug) LibOrderReliable4. Like Avis, it tries harder.

Either there were some trade context busy problems (in which case you just keep on pounding on it until it's done) or the order actually opened before the EA tried to delete (in which case the error is appropriate).
  • #502
  • Oct 25, 2010 11:19pm Oct 25, 2010 11:19pm
Quoting hiredwhip
Hi Steve,
Real good wage for a days work........OOTB......I swear it runs smoother than TB.......

whip
yes the TB is just great, but can you tell me what OOTB is please ?


cheers
  • #503
  • Oct 25, 2010 11:26pm Oct 25, 2010 11:26pm
I know that you are busy , but I please you for an answer...

tell me why "the classic SIXTHS" shows 1.4015 - gold line /EUR/USD, and at the
same time TB SIXTHS shows 1.4080 and trading from there ( no trade at all )last day on EUR/USD???

and if you remove the TB , the SIXTHS comes to 1.4015, where it should be ???

cheers

ps/the TB is GREAT!!!
  • #504
  • Oct 25, 2010 11:36pm Oct 25, 2010 11:36pm
OOTB = Out of the Box

The Beast calculates sixths for EurUsd with 170 bars. I'm not sure, but I think the Classic Sixths used a 120 bar period. There are so many versions of the original sixths that its hard to be sure. The one I used depended on the number of bars actually displayed on the chart.

Hope this helps.
  • #505
  • Oct 25, 2010 11:57pm Oct 25, 2010 11:57pm
Quoting newera
I too am interested in how we might perform a statistical analysis on the probability of retracement....
It looked to me like you started at any random point, and then gathered data on price moves from that point. And maybe that is the right starting point. However, if these countertrend systems have an edge, the edge exists precisely because that random approach is inaccurate.

My computer is too slow to run back tests, so I can't be any help in the approach that I'm going to suggest. The standard way to optimize a variable is to run a series of backtests of the system over the same time frame while adjusting the variable. Do this over 2 or 3 sample time frames. Then, when you have an idea of the optimal value, you run the system over some other periods to see if the variable is robust, and to make sure that you aren't overfitting.

Other approaches would involve getting a precise definition of what counts as a retracement, and then getting data for the range of those retracements. That's what I thought Old Dog was doing. But I don't know what parameters he used to get his data, or why he selected those parameters.
  • #506
  • Oct 26, 2010 1:25am Oct 26, 2010 1:25am
Quoting duffypratt
OOTB = Out of the Box

The Beast calculates sixths for EurUsd with 170 bars. I'm not sure, but I think the Classic Sixths used a 120 bar period. There are so many versions of the original sixths that its hard to be sure. The one I used depended on the number of bars actually displayed on the chart.

Hope this helps.
thanks very much duffypratt

yes it helped...now is all clear....

cheers
  • #507
  • Oct 26, 2010 1:30am Oct 26, 2010 1:30am
Quoting duffypratt
OOTB = Out of the Box

The Beast calculates sixths for EurUsd with 170 bars. I'm not sure, but I think the Classic Sixths used a 120 bar period. There are so many versions of the original sixths that its hard to be sure. The one I used depended on the number of bars actually displayed on the chart.

Hope this helps.

thanks very much duffypratt

yes helps for SIXTHS...all clear, but "out of box " ??? what box do you mean ???
renco chart or ??? but renco is 2 min chart or ???

cheers

ps/ sorry I am bugging you
  • #508
  • Oct 26, 2010 1:35am Oct 26, 2010 1:35am
out of the box means default settings.
  • #509
  • Oct 26, 2010 1:46am Oct 26, 2010 1:46am
Quoting tazmaan
out of the box means default settings.
thanks tazmaan

OK. clear,
sure I am trading only P trades, what is OOTB, default (for me)...
TB is doing just great, but I like it more with 120 SIXTHS....

cheers
  • #510
  • Edited 3:29am Oct 26, 2010 2:07am | Edited 3:29am
duffy,
I have two backtest stations setup that are idle at the moment. Both using tickdata from dukascopy and on a nice,fast pc
If you want assistance in optimizing for the bar setting, contact me and i'll put some time into it. We'll just need to decide on the proper method to do so.

Also, I use mb's mod on the beast to use orderreliable library, because I feel this is the proper way to ensure order management is done correctly. So I would want to use that version to test with. If there are changes that are required since he last modded the beast, we'll need to talk him into adding his mod to the newer version as well.
  • #511
  • Oct 26, 2010 3:07am Oct 26, 2010 3:07am
gspe has just sent me a pm saying he spotted am error in the cleanup code. I do not know what the error was, but he added the fixed code so I have simply copied it into the post 1 version. gspe has already shown how good a coder he is, so I see no reason to doubt the mod.

Cheers, gspe.

I am away for a couple of days and will not have access to the internet - back tomorrow night. Happy playing, everyone.

  • #512
  • Oct 26, 2010 3:20am Oct 26, 2010 3:20am
Quoting SteveHopwood
gspe has just sent me a pm saying he spotted am error in the cleanup code. I do not know what the error was, but he added the fixed code so I have simply copied it into the post 1 version. gspe has already shown how good a coder he is, so I see no reason to doubt the mod.

Cheers, gspe.

I am away for a couple of days and will not have access to the internet - back tomorrow night. Happy playing, everyone.

The error was the one described in this post

http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=479
  • #513
  • Oct 26, 2010 4:48am Oct 26, 2010 4:48am
Quoting mbkennel
When you have a multi-currency EA like TB, some of the error messages which are autogenerated by MT4 will have the currency of the chart that the EA is on (not necessarily in reference to the trade it is on) , so the error message doesn't reflect what's happening....
Thanks for taking the time to put together that explanation mbkennel, it appears that there was a bug in there anyway, now fixed in post 1 (see posts 511 & 512 for details).
  • #514
  • Oct 26, 2010 8:17am Oct 26, 2010 8:17am
Not sure if this was fixed in the latest cleanup code fix but here's an odd TP on the GBP/NZD trade.

Price is at 2.11517 TP is at 82.66300
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  • #515
  • Oct 26, 2010 9:24am Oct 26, 2010 9:24am
Quoting newera
Not sure if this was fixed in the latest cleanup code fix but here's an odd TP on the GBP/NZD trade.

Price is at 2.11517 TP is at 82.66300
I had a similar experience with AU, yesterday, but, not as extreme as this. My AU TP was only 2,000 pts away.

I did ask a question about this, here on the thread. Unfortunately, nobody responded.
  • #516
  • Oct 26, 2010 9:25am Oct 26, 2010 9:25am
Quoting newera
Not sure if this was fixed in the latest cleanup code fix but here's an odd TP on the GBP/NZD trade.

Price is at 2.11517 TP is at 82.66300
just a question, do you have MPTM on the same account?
  • #517
  • Oct 26, 2010 10:21am Oct 26, 2010 10:21am
Quoting gspe
just a question, do you have MPTM on the same account?
In my case, I'm using TB with the ootb defaults . I don't have MPTM loaded as a separate function. I believe, it's been built in to the latest version of TB.
  • #518
  • Oct 26, 2010 1:00pm Oct 26, 2010 1:00pm
Quoting gspe
just a question, do you have MPTM on the same account?
I'm not running MPTM seperately. Just TB EA.
  • #519
  • Oct 26, 2010 1:33pm Oct 26, 2010 1:33pm
Has anybody had any hedge trades opened yet? I had a sell 0.04 lot GBPCHF trade opened at 09.00 (08.00 GMT) this morning at 1.5332, this evening it rose to 1.5645 a loss of 313 pips. My hedge settings are Use hedging = true, Hedge at loss pips = 300, Hedge lots multiplier = 2.0. I would have expected a 0.08 lot buy to open but nothing happened. Any ideas? ( Just TB intstalled on the chart )
  • #520
  • Oct 26, 2010 2:10pm Oct 26, 2010 2:10pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
gspe has just sent me a pm saying he spotted am error in the cleanup code. I do not know what the error was, but he added the fixed code so I have simply copied it into the post 1 version. gspe has already shown how good a coder he is, so I see no reason to doubt the mod.

Cheers, gspe.

I am away for a couple of days and will not have access to the internet - back tomorrow night. Happy playing, everyone.

http://www.mt4i.com/users/beast_sperimental/stats
the beast sperimental no work...
you can see whi?
thanks
Romano
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