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Quoting Albatross
WOOF WOOF WOOF

I'm still waiting for those account statements PA Dog. The net is closing on you WOOF and you will soon be exposed WOOF. I'm getting the FBI on you PA Dog WOOF WOOF.

Where are those account statements?

WOOF

(See, it really is very annoying when people post utter tripe interspersed with the word "woof" in upper case letters.)
Show me your accounts please.
Quoting ak4x
Kiss my Account.... oh Benevolant One...

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This guy is amazingly effective for stirring the pot... for all anybody knows, he could be a 12 yr old posting here between his facebook chats. http://cdn.forexfactory.com/images/s...lling_eyes.gif

"Yawn"
Show me your accounts please.
Quoting ak4x
Kiss my Account.... oh Benevolant One...
...
This guy is amazingly effective for stirring the pot... for all anybody knows, he could be a 12 yr old posting here between his facebook chats.

"Yawn..."


he can stir, but he cant cook. lol


Yawn.... it's 1.40am here.
See u all tomorrow/later.
Quoting PA Trader
Show me your accounts please.
WOOF WOOF WOOF

Why? I am not claiming to be anything, whereas you are PA Dog. You are claiming to be a lifetime member. If this is the case, you will have 12 monthly statements to prove your claims.

Where are your statements PA Dog? The net is closing on you PA Dog, the NSA is catching up with you. Soon you will be revealed WOOF WOOF WOOF.

(So childish, so annoying, why oh why did you start this?)
Quoting ak4x



It gets weirder here everyday.
Sorry.

But how else is one to respond to someone who starts most of his posts with "WOOF WOOF, the net is closing on the J16 Dogs, blah blah blah"?
Quoting PA Trader
Do yourself all a favour and just get price patterns by Pring, it's where james16 stole his ideas from.

http://www.pring.com/pricepattern.htm
So if I understand correctly, we now have three groups of naysayers here, each presenting conflicting arguments:

#1. J16's methods are based on Martin Pring's. So the reason for avoiding J16 is that his method can either be purchased more cheaply from a Pring book, or obtained for free elsewhere (such as the free J16 thread). But......... to whatever extent Pring's ideas (and keep in mind that he's a highly regarded, best-selling author) are valid, then J16's ideas are likely to provide a similar type of edge. And if J16 is using profitable ideas himself, then he's probably a successful trader.

#2. J16 refuses to post audited accounts, therefore he's probably not a profitable trader himself. But....... there are a number of his students who claim that they're profitable. Hence they're either untruthful shills, gullible newbies enjoying some beginner's luck, or are genuinely profitable. If Jim is putting in time and effort that helps others to become profitable, then I believe he's worthy of their subscription money.

#3. J16 should be avoided because makes more money from his educational forum than he does from his own trading. But....... surely the membership numbers are largely outside of Jim's control. If demand for a product increases, that's likely to be partly due to word-of-mouth advertising, from satisfied users of the product. I may be wrong, but I'm not aware of any other form of promotion that J16 uses, apart from the free thread....... where folk can test the validity of his methods for themselves.


Am I a cheerleader or a lapdog for J16? Is he my idol? I have no more vested interest other than the fact that he's provided me with a couple of concepts that have helped me develop my own method. I have no idea how profitable his own trading is, and it doesn't bother me. I'm posting merely because I believe some of the attacks against him here are unjust, illogical, and completely lacking in supporting evidence.
Quoting PA Trader
Do yourself all a favour and just get price patterns by Pring, it's where james16 stole his ideas from.

http://www.pring.com/pricepattern.htm
I doubt that James "stole" them. He probably bought some of Pring's stuff and studied it.
Well it is nice to be awake and to see that this thread has now moved and degenerated in a different direction. It is humourous to see but shows that this thread has little credibility.

Twee seriously this thread has absolutly no education use what so ever. It was started by a member who has been suspended, it has been added to with more than enough negative, speculative and in alot of ways derogative posts aimed at attacking not just Jim but also the people who are part of his team and most of the people doing the attacking have been suspended for one reason or another.

Is there anyone who seriously thinks this thread is worth keeping. I hear the suspended members who are firing the pot shots screaming 'yes because its a warning to new traders, its to protect them and their rights to make there own informed decision'.

This thread will not go anywhere, it will continue like a neighbourly dispute which usually gets worse over time with the 'he said and she said' banter.

I have removed my subscription to it, it has lost value. Unlike PA trader who is so busy compiling evidence to take the world to court I will not be back.

RT
Quoting Razor_trader
Well it is nice to be awake and to see that this thread has now moved and degenerated in a different direction. It is humourous to see but shows that this thread has little credibility.

Twee seriously this thread has absolutly no education use what so ever. It was started by a member who has been suspended, it has been added to with more than enough negative, speculative and in alot of ways derogative posts aimed at attacking not just Jim but also the people who are part of his team and most of the people doing the attacking have been suspended...
Yep, bin it. It's garbage.
I'm intrigued by how my mind works somedays... ;-]
'cause after 60-odd pages of whatever the hell this is, the only thing i couldn't quite fathom was this
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...Pring was the inventor of the Pinbar...
Err... why?
Cause he stuck a label on a pattern he noticed on a chart, that is the result of millions of market participants pushing price around?
Thats not "invention" is it?
I would rather credit it to, well, the millions of market participants pushing price around...

Geez, "engage brain before engaging mouth", as a wise man once told me.
Carpe Divitiae
i laugh so hard

don't understand with people defend james ... what is your edge ? Did he help anyone in here make any money? Ask yourself guys, you are bias because he looks like a good guy who answer anything "for free" . I mind you Jacko is the same ....

Looks how james treat to the handicapped people; looks James never ever make one live trade... but he is very active and open talk with the trade he done well. How about live trade? why only talk about something after the fact and everyone can see ?

and i know James trade daily and weekly so he has plenty of time to post chart, entry point, analysis ....

You guys are brainwashed so long.....wake up everyone
Quoting Fx000
i laugh so hard

don't understand with people defend james ... what is your edge ? Did he help anyone in here make any money? Ask yourself guys, you are bias because he looks like a good guy who answer anything "for free" . I mind you Jacko is the same ....

Looks how james treat to the handicapped people; looks James never ever make one live trade... but he is very active and open talk with the trade he done well. How about live trade? why only talk about something after the fact and everyone can see ?

and i know James trade daily and weekly...
I'm not brainwashed....I've just found methods that work for me and fit my trading personality....I'll defend James till the cows come home because what he teaches turned my trading around.

I have results from live trade calls documented in my trade journal on the private forum using methods I've learnt from James....so quit your trolling and waddle over there and check out my win rate and expectancy.

What's your edge in trolling and defaming someone?
Quoting tehuringa
I'm not brainwashed....I've just found methods that work for me and fit my trading personality....I'll defend James till the cows come home because what he teaches turned my trading around.

I have results from live trade calls documented in my trade journal on the private forum using methods I've learnt from James....so quit your trolling and waddle over there and check out my win rate and expectancy.

What's your edge in trolling and defaming someone?

then please prove it, if you really want to help people , there is no reason to deny.

i want to learn a good method ; not a garbage ... i know james takes from pring. well if he mimic and are not better then Prings, i would rather see Prings books , it's original and free
As much as i respect j16 i do have to agree that he never posts trades as he enters them or before hand.
Quoting Razorman
As much as i respect j16 i do have to agree that he never posts trades as he enters them or before hand.
exactly Razorman

it is raining and the weatherman is speaking " today is raining" ;

uh?? i 'm stuck on somewhere else , cannot go home because i didn't bring umbrella

i wonder " hell , if that weatherman yesterday tell me today has rain then thing is different now"

HOW CREDIBLE THIS WEATHER MAN IS??
Quoting Fx000
then please prove it, if you really want to help people , there is no reason to deny.

i want to learn a good method ; not a garbage ... i know james takes from pring. well if he mimic and are not better then Prings, i would rather see Prings books , it's original and free
Hey look, if you want to learn, read the free thread and also read BRV's No Brainer Trades thread. Learn S/R inside out and how prices reacts around these levels - think Big Round Numbers/ Monthly Open/Close Price etc. Add in Pring/Nison/J16 price patterns (Pinbar, BUOB, BEOB etc) around these levels and note the first trouble area where price is likely to go. Very often price will make it to these levels. You can adapt this information to suit your preference in many ways believe me but it takes time and a lot of hard work.

Here is my take on it, if you see a price pattern at a major S/R level on a higher timeframe (monthly, weekly, even daily) and note where price is likely to go then this information is extremely valuable no? You can drill down to a lower TF to get a tighter entry and look for RR multiple trades. Look for a trend/ pullback + PA and you're good to go.

If you can develop an edge that has a win % of over 51% then your R:R only needs to be 1. All about maximising the winners and killing the losers. PA using either J16 or BRV or Mike_W or Ryanmcd methods gives you that edge and it can all be done for free on FF. No need to sign up to the PF, how much do you want this?
Quoting PA Trader
Do yourself all a favour and just get price patterns by Pring, it's where james16 stole his ideas from.

http://www.pring.com/pricepattern.htm
Yeah well Pring and all these other dudes got their ideas from Wyckoff and all the other early predecessors to modern TA and price analysis.
Quoting Fx000
then please prove it, if you really want to help people , there is no reason to deny.

i want to learn a good method ; not a garbage ... i know james takes from pring. well if he mimic and are not better then Prings, i would rather see Prings books , it's original and free
Go learn from pring then, you freak.
Quoting Deusomega
Yeah well Pring and all these other dudes got their ideas from Wyckoff and all the other early predecessors to modern TA and price analysis.
yeah that's the point... ill never spend a buck for anyone who cannot prove themselves .... don't want to feed the scams

and this thread made a good job: SCAMS ALERT
Quoting Fx000
yeah that's the point... ill never spend a buck for anyone who cannot prove themselves .... don't want to feed the scams

and this thread made a good job: SCAMS ALERT
I would say most peopel reading this thread would see that you sound like a nut, and are more then likely to go check james out, so if you really want to stop people joining james, then I would stop posting if I were you, cause you really sound like a nut to most people, that's a simple fact.
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