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- #869
- Sep 30, 2010 10:32am Sep 30, 2010 10:32am
- Joined Mar 2009 | Status: Getting closer to ...... | 1,787 Posts
- #870
- Sep 30, 2010 10:34am Sep 30, 2010 10:34am
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Borderline yahoo & oh-no! | 6,607 Posts
- #872
- Sep 30, 2010 10:43am Sep 30, 2010 10:43am
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Borderline yahoo & oh-no! | 6,607 Posts
what if he IS j16?
or even.. jacko???
& if he is J16, then he can supply us with more than 3-5 videos & articles. LOL
- #873
- Sep 30, 2010 10:58am Sep 30, 2010 10:58am
- Joined Jun 2009 | Status: Trader | 2,000 Posts
that would be a big twist.
& if he is J16, then he can supply us with more than 3-5 videos & articles. LOL
he could kindly provide us with his current residence hhaha
- #874
- Sep 30, 2010 10:58am Sep 30, 2010 10:58am
- Joined Mar 2009 | Status: Getting closer to ...... | 1,787 Posts
James16 = Enron.
Explain. Ok, Enron was around for years too, and yet ripped off all it's customers and took their money as it went 'bankrupt'.
Just because someone has run a thread for a few years doesn't mean they are a trader and can be trusted, I just can't believe the naivety of some of these posters on this thread. I have over 10 years trading experience - that doesn't mean I can trade for a living or am profitable!
There have been a number of viable firms and individuals who have been well now for there trading abilities and have been part of failure. Big banks with large investments have gone under, LTCM which had brilliant minds when Kaboom. History has a number of good men who have gone bust just as it has had a number of no name men make a fortune, some of these people you would not hear about until they made it...
The blind trust they hold in J16 is borderline weird. Let me simplify it for you as I see most here are below average intelligence.
If you see a Doctor, you want to see a QUALIFIED Doctor, same for a Dentist. You have to fly, you want a Qualified Pilot, not someone who has flown for 10 years but not actually flown himself safely.
Those qualifications may be great however I restate that there are a good number of people out there with those nice plaques on there walls that do dodgy stuff. Unlike Doctors and Dentist who NEED to attend high institutions in order to perform there skills, traders do not. In fact there are a great majority of street smart business people and traders out there. It is not uncommon for investment offices to be full of MIT students however their role in the firm is to crunch numbers, come up with formulaes and look for anomalies to extract an edge for the traders who may be a high school drop out with a psychology tough as steel. In that aspect the analogy of using doctors is a moot point.
Again, there is NO PROOF he trades.
There is NO PROOF he trades what he preaches (and charges for) which is easily proven as I've said before through independent trade websites.
There is NO PROOF this method will make you money even if you follow it 100%.
There is NO PROOF of any real time trading, members have asked for it, but J16 has just side stepped with false promises for the future, well it's been a couple of years and still nothing.
He recently showed his trade and setup for a recent EUR/USD long which obviously no one was paying attention too http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=653
He was still in this trade last I checked with profit taken, however for you all I guess this is not enough. What you really want to see is all the information pertaining to that trade. Go Figure
All he keeps churning out is how rich he is, you need a 100k account to trade, blah, blah, blah. Again, there is NO PROOF he has 100k account anyway and that cuts out 99% of the people he is taking money off monthly, again, the members with limited intelligence don't see what he is doing here. It's called the 'illusion of wealth', it's a selling technique from the 90's.
Why does he offer free lifetime membership after 12 months? Simple, it's because he wants people to pay up to 12 months who would normally stop beforehand as once they get to 12 months they will need to pay no more, which then gives the ILLUSION of a successful group because of all the accumilated members.
He knows what he is doing, but as I've been is sales management and seen this type of sales before, I can share my experience for FREE.
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=834
So if your a lifetime member I can assume (not that I like to) that you paid for a full 12 months thereby putting you in a catagory of 'limited intelligence'
. WOW so I guess AK4X isnt the only one that keeps on the wall
NO PROOF = NOT TO BE TRUSTED.
There IS PROOF he makes money from desperate people trying to change their lives.
What part of these facts fail you who defend this Snake Oil Salesman?
I will waste no more time here as frankly I'm working on legal issues regarding bb advertising and people who are misleading the public when they have no qualifications, as I'm working towards getting the FX market regulated to stop people getting ripped off by these exact people we have been discussing. It has to stop.
You go get them you legal 30ish poster goody goody guy. Just what the world needs, another leach who also charges through the nose to post and give legal advice to protect people from themselves. Just swell, now do as you said and dont reply, leave go on, ooohhhh I bet you want to reply
Explain. Ok, Enron was around for years too, and yet ripped off all it's customers and took their money as it went 'bankrupt'.
Just because someone has run a thread for a few years doesn't mean they are a trader and can be trusted, I just can't believe the naivety of some of these posters on this thread. I have over 10 years trading experience - that doesn't mean I can trade for a living or am profitable!
There have been a number of viable firms and individuals who have been well now for there trading abilities and have been part of failure. Big banks with large investments have gone under, LTCM which had brilliant minds when Kaboom. History has a number of good men who have gone bust just as it has had a number of no name men make a fortune, some of these people you would not hear about until they made it...
The blind trust they hold in J16 is borderline weird. Let me simplify it for you as I see most here are below average intelligence.
If you see a Doctor, you want to see a QUALIFIED Doctor, same for a Dentist. You have to fly, you want a Qualified Pilot, not someone who has flown for 10 years but not actually flown himself safely.
Those qualifications may be great however I restate that there are a good number of people out there with those nice plaques on there walls that do dodgy stuff. Unlike Doctors and Dentist who NEED to attend high institutions in order to perform there skills, traders do not. In fact there are a great majority of street smart business people and traders out there. It is not uncommon for investment offices to be full of MIT students however their role in the firm is to crunch numbers, come up with formulaes and look for anomalies to extract an edge for the traders who may be a high school drop out with a psychology tough as steel. In that aspect the analogy of using doctors is a moot point.
Again, there is NO PROOF he trades.
There is NO PROOF he trades what he preaches (and charges for) which is easily proven as I've said before through independent trade websites.
There is NO PROOF this method will make you money even if you follow it 100%.
There is NO PROOF of any real time trading, members have asked for it, but J16 has just side stepped with false promises for the future, well it's been a couple of years and still nothing.
He recently showed his trade and setup for a recent EUR/USD long which obviously no one was paying attention too http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=653
He was still in this trade last I checked with profit taken, however for you all I guess this is not enough. What you really want to see is all the information pertaining to that trade. Go Figure
All he keeps churning out is how rich he is, you need a 100k account to trade, blah, blah, blah. Again, there is NO PROOF he has 100k account anyway and that cuts out 99% of the people he is taking money off monthly, again, the members with limited intelligence don't see what he is doing here. It's called the 'illusion of wealth', it's a selling technique from the 90's.
Why does he offer free lifetime membership after 12 months? Simple, it's because he wants people to pay up to 12 months who would normally stop beforehand as once they get to 12 months they will need to pay no more, which then gives the ILLUSION of a successful group because of all the accumilated members.
He knows what he is doing, but as I've been is sales management and seen this type of sales before, I can share my experience for FREE.
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=834
So if your a lifetime member I can assume (not that I like to) that you paid for a full 12 months thereby putting you in a catagory of 'limited intelligence'
. WOW so I guess AK4X isnt the only one that keeps on the wallNO PROOF = NOT TO BE TRUSTED.
There IS PROOF he makes money from desperate people trying to change their lives.
What part of these facts fail you who defend this Snake Oil Salesman?
I will waste no more time here as frankly I'm working on legal issues regarding bb advertising and people who are misleading the public when they have no qualifications, as I'm working towards getting the FX market regulated to stop people getting ripped off by these exact people we have been discussing. It has to stop.
You go get them you legal 30ish poster goody goody guy. Just what the world needs, another leach who also charges through the nose to post and give legal advice to protect people from themselves. Just swell, now do as you said and dont reply, leave go on, ooohhhh I bet you want to reply
- #875
- Edited 11:29am Sep 30, 2010 11:00am | Edited 11:29am
it feels like it's Friday...
u claim to be a lifetime member.
u joined the James16 group to gather evidence
ok, let's have a look at your evidence/s.
it is said that there are hundreds of videos & articles/threads there.
Kindly show us at least 3-5 videos AND 3-5 articles from within the group.... to prove that u are a member AND to prove your claim that J16 is BS.
also this 'post move' videos.
& evidence that 'members are sick' of these
u have been adamant, u say u are doing this for a cause... this...
So I have to prove to YOU I'm a lifer? That's easy, the last chart clip he sent out was his BSVID69.
I like the way you try and turn it on me and after I said I wasn't going to post here anymore
Now that I have proved I'm a lifer I will leave you to digest your next plan to try and discredit me, the one who is looking out for normal people from being ripped off.
- #876
- Sep 30, 2010 11:01am Sep 30, 2010 11:01am
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Borderline yahoo & oh-no! | 6,607 Posts
haha, and if he's jacko, well
he could kindly provide us with hiscurrent residence hhaha
what if he is just renting a place?
- #877
- Sep 30, 2010 11:01am Sep 30, 2010 11:01am
So I have to prove to YOU I'm a lifer? That's easy, the last chart clip he sent out was his MARKETWATCH928, where he discusses the EURUSD trade he's states he's in (all after the fact I might add).
I like the way you try and turn it on me and after I said I wasn't going to post here anymore
Now that I have proved I'm a lifer I will leave you to digest your next plan to try and discredit me, the one who is looking out for normal people from being ripped off.
- #878
- Sep 30, 2010 11:02am Sep 30, 2010 11:02am
- Joined Mar 2009 | Status: Getting closer to ...... | 1,787 Posts
So I have to prove to YOU I'm a lifer? That's easy, the last vid he sent out was his MARKETWATCH928, where he discusses the EURUSD trade he's states he's in (all after the fact I might add).
I like the way you try and turn it onto me and after I said I wasn't going to post here anymore
Now that I have proved I'm a lifer I will leave you to digest your next plan to try and discredit me, the one who is looking out for normal people from being ripped off.
WOW I didnt have to wait long. I thought you had some little legal issues.
Oh I feel so childish now but I am laughing so hard.
Permission to rename thread : Derailed comedy lounge
Say I
- #880
- Sep 30, 2010 11:14am Sep 30, 2010 11:14am
- Joined Jun 2009 | Status: Trader | 2,000 Posts
what if he has a few scattered around the world?
what if he is just renting a place?