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  • #781
  • Sep 18, 2010 11:09pm Sep 18, 2010 11:09pm
Quoting astral77
That is a bit harsh SIR. Toothman`s research and backtests has benefited us in the past and I am sure it will in the future. Steve has already said he can not help him but maybe some other coder / trader could. As you know if in this thread anyone posting irrelevant material will be dealt with "Hopwood Style".

Kind regards
1) Not harsh in any way. This is not the thread to fix his MT4 issues so I just told him to post in the proper areas of this forum for computer help.
2) Some other coder / trader help him do what? the issue isn't a coding or trading issue is it?
3) I don't think Steve wants to deal with this stuff any more do you?

No dis-respect, I was just informing him of the above and there shouldn't be any need in filling this thread of issues that are clearly not related to the actual functionality of the EA.
24 hours in a day – 24 bottles of beer in a case – Coincidence? I think not
  • #782
  • Sep 18, 2010 11:14pm Sep 18, 2010 11:14pm
Quoting tazmaan
Yeah, hopefully the crazy nazi attitude doesnt start rubbing off on EVERYONE in the thread lol
True, it's terrible when users MT4/ EA settings issues clutter up threads and I think Steve and others have already gotten frustrated enough and don't need more. This is how many coders have left other threads due to the ignorance of others out of pure frustration and nobody want to see that happen here do you?
24 hours in a day – 24 bottles of beer in a case – Coincidence? I think not
  • #783
  • Sep 18, 2010 11:16pm Sep 18, 2010 11:16pm
Anyway, this is not the place to debate these sort of things. Moving on
Hoping for another great week ahead
24 hours in a day – 24 bottles of beer in a case – Coincidence? I think not
  • #784
  • Sep 19, 2010 12:11am Sep 19, 2010 12:11am
Quoting matrixebiz
True, it's terrible when users MT4/ EA settings issues clutter up threads and I think Steve and others have already gotten frustrated enough and don't need more. This is how many coders have left other threads due to the ignorance of others out of pure frustration and nobody want to see that happen here do you?

  • #785
  • Sep 19, 2010 2:35am Sep 19, 2010 2:35am
Quoting scooby-doo
I tried my theory for a couple of hours and the results look interesting. The lot size and TP are too small but I was just mucking about testing it out.

We shall see what happens when the markets open Sunday/Monday.

Have a good weekend all as I am off to several casinos todo the real gambling and blow last quarters bonus.



Scoobs
Hi Scoobs

Great entries! Were you using the EA or manually entering these trades? I note with the USDCAD sell trade that it didn't fit the NB requirements of being over the green or gold sixth lines or the blue and white stochs on the H4. Most of the other trades seemed to at least fit the NB sixth requirements of the gold lines. Do you mind sharing what your entry requirements were? Thanks.
  • #786
  • Edited 4:31am Sep 19, 2010 4:04am | Edited 4:31am
Quoting ForexKiwi
Hi Scoobs

Great entries! Were you using the EA or manually entering these trades? I note with the USDCAD sell trade that it didn't fit the NB requirements of being over the green or gold sixth lines or the blue and white stochs on the H4. Most of the other trades seemed to at least fit the NB sixth requirements of the gold lines. Do you mind sharing what your entry requirements were? Thanks.
I am running my own EA on the 1H timeframe x 120 bars, so just looking at 5 day period.

My version just gives BUY and SELL signals and asks me to confirm the trades.

From my experience most instruments will retrace (under normal market conditions) when they approach or break their 5 day high/low. However this is not always the case with certain currencies so i prefer to make the final descision myself based on quickly looking at the chart for the BUY or SELL recommendation.

Bobs, is an excellent trading methodology on the 4H charts. I just take it one step further because I have a great deal of trading experience across many currencies.

Example: EURAUD will break its 5 day high/low many times without reversing, so i wouldnt normally take trades on this currency.

So, just blindly running it on 1H or small TF automatically will not work for most individuals.

And, NO i am not going to post my EA because people will run it on 15M, 30M or 1H and expect it to make them money without any intervention from themselves and then shout at me when things go wrong. If it does show promise then I will send it to Steve, who can laugh at my code and decide if he wants to provide it here. Also, I dont have time to support it and bow down to requests for changes etc.

Anyway, its just a test at this stage.

Scoobs.
  • #787
  • Edited 5:09am Sep 19, 2010 4:55am | Edited 5:09am
Louise is for bored backtesters with nothing to do. She is inspired by scoobs' Atr filter. Here is the trading theory:

 

  1. 5 period Atr is above 200 period Atr and rsi is oversold: buy
  2. 5 period Atr is below 200 period Atr and rsi is overbought: sell

The idea is to jump on the start of a trend reversal. This idea may be rubbish. If it can be made to work, we can combine it with NB to take trades on their way through the trend, then close them and wait for Bob's trades to kick in.

The defaults have enabled backtests with small profits. I have put rsi and atr inputs at the top of the list so backtesters can play with them easily.

Any other ideas to add, O Clever Ones?
__________________________________________________________________

I have coded Louise so that importing her code into NB is easy - in fact I have already done so and am running a backtest right now.

In looking at where to put the call to the trend trading, I noticed that I had coded scoobs' filter, coded the call to it, then wandered off to do something else for a while and forgot to add code the make NB use this information.

Oops. Code now added, hence the attachment.

Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 Louise.mq4   9 KB | 310 downloads
File Type: mq4 Nanningbob V5 auto-trader by Steve and Simon.mq4   89 KB | 302 downloads
  • #788
  • Sep 19, 2010 4:58am Sep 19, 2010 4:58am
Quoting SteveHopwood
Louise is for bored backtesters with nothing to do. She is inspired by scoobs' Atr filter. Here is the trading theory:

 

  1. 5 period Atr is above 200 period Atr and rsi is oversold: buy
  2. 5 period Atr is below 200 period Atr and rsi is overbought: buy

The idea is to jump on the start of a trend reversal. This idea may be rubbish. If it can be made to work, we can combine it with NB to take trades on their way through the trend, then close them and wait for Bob's trades to kick in.

The defaults have enabled backtests with small...

2. Should be a sell steve. or you may get some hum dinger results.

It should be used with NB's gold lines conditions.

  • #789
  • Sep 19, 2010 6:07am Sep 19, 2010 6:07am
Hehe. Have a look at the backtest. The only way I could differentiate between 'trend' trades and 'proper' trades is not to send a tp with the trenders.

There is only one of them, but look how successful it was.

This cannot stand a realistic chance of being successful long-term - it is much too simple. We shall see. The attached allows us to play around and see.

NB will manage loosing trenders with Recovery, so I am going to run a longer backtest in the hope that some will need it.

Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 Nanningbob V5 auto-trader by Steve and Simon with trend trading.mq4   93 KB | 313 downloads
File Type: zip StrategyTester.zip   3 KB | 414 downloads
  • #790
  • Sep 19, 2010 6:38am Sep 19, 2010 6:38am
Quoting matrixebiz
True, it's terrible when users MT4/ EA settings issues clutter up threads and I think Steve and others have already gotten frustrated enough and don't need more. This is how many coders have left other threads due to the ignorance of others out of pure frustration and nobody want to see that happen here do you?
matrixebiz,
If you'll read back a few pages you'll see that within a few days of coming to this thread I discovered that the #2 EA wasn't entering properly. Steve then corrected the problem. So , contribution #1. And if you read the Nanningbob threads, (the foundation for this thread) you'll see I came up with the 6th indicator through a programmer called Magnumfreak. Without that indicator you wouldn't be enjoying this EA. So, contribution #2. As for the back testing, just trying to contribute more to the thread. I like to think my back testing in the main thread has helped Bob shape his EA's. In fact he sends me and a couple others(including Steve) his ideas for new EA's before he posts them. So if the back test works for this EA for some and doesnt work for others, it might be a good idea to figure out why. You never know who you may snub in the future who could have come up with a great idea to contribute later. There are obvious questions that shouldn't be asked that try your patience but this isn't one of them.
  • #791
  • Edited 8:05am Sep 19, 2010 7:55am | Edited 8:05am
Quoting Toothman
matrixebiz,...
Fixing a trade triggering issue found out by backtesting or manual detection is quite different than implying that the EA does not work because it doesn't backtest when we all know it does, don't you agree?

Anyway guys, I'm off to the Dominican for a week, happy trading and no-disrespect to anyone here, have fun.
24 hours in a day – 24 bottles of beer in a case – Coincidence? I think not
  • #792
  • Sep 19, 2010 8:22am Sep 19, 2010 8:22am
Quoting matrixebiz
Fixing a trade triggering issue found out by backtesting or manual detection is quite different than implying that the EA does not work because it doesn't backtest when we all know it does, don't you agree?

Anyway guys, I'm off to the Dominican for a week, happy trading and no-disrespect to anyone here, have fun.
I never implied that EA#2 didn't work so don't be an idiot about this. . I pointed out that it wasn't entering properly(according to the rules) at the correct price which can make a big difference in whether or not you're going to make or lose money trading it. As to running this EA through the strategy tester, I'm not the only one here who has noticed it runs extremely slow and makes no trades. Just trying to figure out why so I can contribute more to the thread.
  • #793
  • Sep 19, 2010 9:08am Sep 19, 2010 9:08am
Quoting Toothman
I never implied that EA#2 didn't work so don't be an idiot about this. . I pointed out that it wasn't entering properly(according to the rules) at the correct price which can make a big difference in whether or not you're going to make or lose money trading it. As to running this EA through the strategy tester, I'm not the only one here who has noticed it runs extremely slow and makes no trades. Just trying to figure out why so I can contribute more to the thread.
Oh, maybe we are talking about different things here, I'm not talking about EA #2, you started that, the problem was that he was saying that Steve's EA was not taking trades in his Backtesting did he only have Allow2 = true only checked? if not then I'm sure we are talking about two different things here.

I only read this part above:
It runs very very slowly and doesn't make any trades. I wonder if Steve could address this problem. Good luck

That Steve responded to above to, Looking back at your original post has more in it but not really sure why at the start you say the EA traded then say the above at the end ?? I must have missed the plot

Oh, well, good luck everyone
24 hours in a day – 24 bottles of beer in a case – Coincidence? I think not
  • #794
  • Sep 19, 2010 9:20am Sep 19, 2010 9:20am
I have acted on the idea posited by one of my students to whom I have been teaching NB's system.

He is trading manually whilst running this robot on a separate account. He pointed out that I was warning him sternly about the danger of over-trading, whilst at the same time helping him set up the robot on as many charts as we could find.

He suggested a maximum no of trades allowed setting, so the latest update in post 1 includes the MaxTradesAllowed input. This applies to all trades open on the account regardless of their source. It is ignored in Recovery.

The scoobs filter code still was not quite correct, so I have added the fix.

All this also applies to the experimental version here.
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 Nanningbob V5 auto-trader by Steve and Simon with trend trading.mq4   93 KB | 319 downloads
  • #795
  • Sep 19, 2010 12:46pm Sep 19, 2010 12:46pm
Hi Max and Steve
I enclose two demos.
one of Max and one of Steve.
I always update with the latest version you posted.
The demo version of Max had lost by 34 but recovered with version 45.
But it's always been in profit.
From now updated with version 52.
Now I set a new demo with Steve trend trading.
We will see next week.
I attach a version history of the indicator that I slightly modified to better see the results.
Thanks to Steve Max of the great work they do.
Romano
Attached File(s)
File Type: zip STATEMENTS MAX AND STEVE + INDICATOR.zip   115 KB | 394 downloads
  • #796
  • Edited 1:19pm Sep 19, 2010 1:00pm | Edited 1:19pm
I have spent much of the day playing with Louise. Pleasant girl, but I am not sure how profitable she can be.

Here is her latest incarnation. She now:

 

  1. sends a buy when the market moves above the top green line from below
  2. sends a sell when the market moves below the bottom green line from above
  3. has the full Recovery functionality

One of the things that backtesting cannot demonstrate is the effect of using mptm to manage breakeven etc. I think I will pop Louise onto a demo for a couple of weeks and see.

Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 Louise.mq4   27 KB | 325 downloads
  • #797
  • Sep 19, 2010 1:03pm Sep 19, 2010 1:03pm
Quoting Romano
Hi Max and Steve
I enclose two demos.
one of Max and one of Steve.
I always update with the latest version you posted.
The demo version of Max had lost by 34 but recovered with version 45.
But it's always been in profit.
From now updated with version 52.
Now I set a new demo with Steve trend trading.
We will see next week.
I attach a version history of the indicator that I slightly modified to better see the results.
Thanks to Steve Max of the great work they do.
Romano
I would love to read your files Romano. When I try to open the zip, it gives an 'invalid archive' error. If you have time, could you re-zip everything, please?

  • #798
  • Sep 19, 2010 1:20pm Sep 19, 2010 1:20pm
* Ummm shuffle shuffle cough err *

I left a ridiculous line of code in Louise that I had put in for testing purposes. Would the individual who just downloaded her care to re-download.

Oops.

  • #799
  • Sep 19, 2010 1:23pm Sep 19, 2010 1:23pm
Steve which version of NB is it on page 1 currently? Is it without the red macd? And the option to UseScoobs?

Just asking to clarify since there has been so many updates the past day...
  • #800
  • Sep 19, 2010 1:26pm Sep 19, 2010 1:26pm
The scoobs filter is an extra. The post 1 version is as before but with this new filter.

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