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  • #4,101
  • Sep 16, 2010 5:36pm Sep 16, 2010 5:36pm
Lol course not. As in page one till now... Not that hard when you are on the road for a week...

But yeah we shall see if I can get it done

Oz
  • #4,102
  • Sep 17, 2010 12:24am Sep 17, 2010 12:24am
Quoting tfflyer
1 min trade Best, Tom

Yes. Superlearning.
You really have to concentrate at 1 min chart, but it works.
  • #4,103
  • Sep 17, 2010 1:02am Sep 17, 2010 1:02am
Quoting juhanimi
Yes. Superlearning.
You really have to concentrate at 1 min chart, but it works.
of course I hope you and tom are just joking about the 1 min , cause if you do not understand background you do not understand pros intent and background does not come form a 1 min chart....enough said

I have not traded any thing lower than a 15 min and have cleaned up every day this week and last
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  • #4,104
  • Sep 17, 2010 1:05am Sep 17, 2010 1:05am
Quoting malcolmb14
of course I hope you and tom are just joking about the 1 min , cause if you do not understand background you do not understand pros intent and background does not come form a 1 min chart....enough said

I have not traded any thing lower than a 15 min and have cleaned up every day this week and last

I agree, for me even 5min has a to much noise
  • #4,105
  • Sep 17, 2010 1:07am Sep 17, 2010 1:07am
Quoting malcolmb14
of course I hope you and tom are just joking about the 1 min , cause if you do not understand background you do not understand pros intent and background does not come form a 1 min chart....enough said

I have not traded any thing lower than a 15 min and have cleaned up every day this week and last
for example I said that buyers were at 3060 in london ... guess what showed up again at 3060 in asia.. nice easy long completing at 3150 target I have been looking for this week . Also came as I was demonstrating vsa to a buddy at his place. He was blown away , not even 5 pip dd

now how the hell would you see that as clear as anything using a 1min ?
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  • #4,106
  • Sep 17, 2010 1:11am Sep 17, 2010 1:11am
Just learning 1min before. i use H1 & M15 in real life.

Many are talking about noise in lower timeframes, but every timeframe has noise.

If price moves from A to B in straight line, that is "no-noise", but we cannot see straight price lines in any timeframe.

Every system/strategy must work on every timeframe.
  • #4,107
  • Sep 17, 2010 1:14am Sep 17, 2010 1:14am
Quoting juhanimi
Just learning 1min before. i use H1 & M15 in real life.

Many are talking about noise in lower timeframes, but every timeframe has noise.

If price moves from A to B in straight line, that is "no-noise", but we cannot see straight price lines in any timeframe.

Every system/strategy must work on every timeframe.
true .

I like going for the 30 to 100 pip trades though not the 5 to 10 pip trades lol
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  • #4,108
  • Sep 17, 2010 1:16am Sep 17, 2010 1:16am
Yes, that is the difference, and much faster.
  • #4,109
  • Sep 17, 2010 3:05am Sep 17, 2010 3:05am
Short 1.315

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Mind over matter..I don't mind and you don't matter.
  • #4,110
  • Sep 17, 2010 4:14am Sep 17, 2010 4:14am
Quoting HiddenGap
Very nice. R:R is very over rated concept. Assuming you can pinpoint your risk (a false assumption), you never know what your reward is until the trade is done. You can't, and luckily don't have to, predict how far the market will actually move.

VSA is good a telling you where your stop should be. It is market based an not based on the size of your account. Someone posted a good example of that earlier. The idea stop location was below the Shake Out-too far for many but the market doesn't care about that. The reward? Well that would depend on...

I appreciate your kind words, thanks. Coming from you, they are a huge compliment.
  • #4,111
  • Edited 6:37am Sep 17, 2010 4:37am | Edited 6:37am
Quoting tonirai
Aren't trades so beautiful in retrospect?
Anyway, forbidden trading hours for me (first of all 'cause I'm sleeping, and second because I don't take trades before Europe's opening).

But trying to analyze it as if it was happening now, I think I wouldn't have entered there... that NS isn't convincing enough for me (should happen lower, as a test to the RUT's low body, to make me happy), and seems more like a ND (taking in account that, to the left of your chart, I see lower highs and lower lows being made);
Some bars later, seems like another...
You're right, I've never had a bad trade in retrospect

The first bar I marked has almost double the volume of any of the previous 30+ bars, that should make you sit up and take notice. Then when the next bar is an SO on even HIGHER volume......something is afoot.

The 2nd chance entry is a good entry point tho. It depends on your particular entry requirements.
  • #4,112
  • Sep 17, 2010 5:21am Sep 17, 2010 5:21am
Quoting JuliusCeasar
Short 1.315
Took the same, but later, after seeing no buying pressure around 1.3135.
But then I did something stupid... had a little "trading accident":

While I was flipping between windows on the computer, I accidentally double clicked or dragged (don't even know how, 'cause I only saw what happened when I came back to my live trading platform) on my "close_all" script, closing the short at 1.3124

I see now it is holding that area for now... but I wanted to watch yesterday's high area, where it already bounced today, around 1.3116.

Oh well... have to go out for a little hour anyway (little shopping and cigarettes)... I just hope it won't be like the last time I had to go out for 1h (when I closed a long with around 30 pips, and price went up 100 or 150 while I was gone!).
  • #4,113
  • Sep 17, 2010 6:00am Sep 17, 2010 6:00am
Quoting tonirai
Took the same, but later, after seeing no buying pressure around 1.3135.
But then I did something stupid... had a little "trading accident":

While I was flipping between windows on the computer, I accidentally double clicked or dragged (don't even know how, 'cause I only saw what happened when I came back to my live trading platform) on my "close_all" script, closing the short at 1.3124

I see now it is holding that area for now... but I wanted to watch yesterday's high area, where it already bounced today, around 1.3116.

Oh...

Sorry about that, it happens to the best of us.

I have just closed half at 1.308 for a nice 70


The rest is a free trade at BE targeting 1.2950
Mind over matter..I don't mind and you don't matter.
  • #4,114
  • Sep 17, 2010 6:19am Sep 17, 2010 6:19am
Last call for train to 1.2920


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  • #4,115
  • Sep 17, 2010 6:22am Sep 17, 2010 6:22am
Quoting tonirai
Oh well... have to go out for a little hour anyway (little shopping and cigarettes)... I just hope it won't be like the last time I had to go out for 1h (when I closed a long with around 30 pips, and price went up 100 or 150 while I was gone!).
I think I've found something even better than vsa... it's the "tonirai leaving home for 1h indicator"!
This time was an accident and I didn't mean to close, but still... as the other time, as soon as I close and go out, price moved 50 pips, eheh!
  • #4,116
  • Sep 17, 2010 6:30am Sep 17, 2010 6:30am
Quoting JuliusCeasar
Last call for train to 1.2920


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Price keeps nibbling at it and rejecting it so far.
  • #4,117
  • Sep 17, 2010 6:32am Sep 17, 2010 6:32am
Can it be a failed test cause of the high volume? Or we need to see ne[t bar for confirmation?

Thanks!!!
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  • #4,118
  • Sep 17, 2010 6:42am Sep 17, 2010 6:42am
Quoting V_2008
Can it be a failed test cause of the high volume? Or we need to see ne[t bar for confirmation?

Thanks!!!
I don't think that's a test, it doesn't even make a lower low. That's an effort to go up, now you have to see the result. But it's kind of dangerous shorting there, because there's stopping volume in that low.
  • #4,119
  • Sep 17, 2010 6:52am Sep 17, 2010 6:52am
Quoting Jasus
I don't think that's a test, it doesn't even make a lower low. That's an effort to go up, now you have to see the result. But it's kind of dangerous shorting there, because there's stopping volume in that low.
As I see it's not an effort. The range is not wide. I think it's just an up bar (maybe a test). As I heard from HG, test can be without making lower low.

If it is a test, we can see that it was a failed test with the next bar down on relativly high volume.
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  • #4,120
  • Sep 17, 2010 6:56am Sep 17, 2010 6:56am
Quoting V_2008
As I see it's not an effort. The range is not wide. I think it's just an up bar (maybe a test). As I heard from HG, test can be without making lower low.

If it is a test, we can see that it was a failed test with the next bar down on relativly high volume.
Hmm and as I see it that's a wide spread. It's an upbar that closes higher than the previous and closes on the high, it's definately making an effort to go up.
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