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  • #141
  • Edited 10:36pm Aug 17, 2010 10:02pm | Edited 10:36pm
Quoting sundog
Steve,
I have just had two #3 Bulge buys taken off the centre line of the BB, and in one of the cases it was between the gold and green line where it has been set not to trade (i.e. trading outside the gold lines).

Tks
Hmmm. Looks like I had the same thing happen with the EUR/JPY a couple of hours ago. The gold line is not a problem in my case but it took it off the BB centre line.

EDIT - Don't know if I've somehow stuffed things up but strangely it took the trade and then reset the EA back to the default settings. It took a #2 buy a few minutes prior to that without doing the same thing. Anyone else notice this, or am I losing it?
  • #142
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:52pm Aug 17, 2010 11:52pm
Quoting ForexKiwi
Hmmm. Looks like I had the same thing happen with the EUR/JPY a couple of hours ago. The gold line is not a problem in my case but it took it off the BB centre line.

EDIT - Don't know if I've somehow stuffed things up but strangely it took the trade and then reset the EA back to the default settings. It took a #2 buy a few minutes prior to that without doing the same thing. Anyone else notice this, or am I losing it?

Guys, I suspect that trade wasn't taken off the BB middle line, but the was in the trading zone but for the wrong sixths. I.e. a buy when above the top third or sixth (or conversely a sell when in the bottom third or sixth). I'm not certain if the code excludes this possibility - which would be rare. The code only determines trading zone using the sixths. Can you post a chart so we can check?

cheers
Simon
  • #143
  • Aug 18, 2010 12:35am Aug 18, 2010 12:35am
Quoting f451
Guys, I suspect that trade wasn't taken off the BB middle line, but the was in the trading zone but for the wrong sixths. I.e. a buy when above the top third or sixth (or conversely a sell when in the bottom third or sixth). I'm not certain if the code excludes this possibility - which would be rare. The code only determines trading zone using the sixths. Can you post a chart so we can check?

cheers
Simon
In my case it got me around the right sixth ie approx at the lower gold line. Attached is the chart. It's a little hard to see the arrow where the buy happened, but it's behind the recent big red down bar.
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  • #144
  • Aug 18, 2010 1:36am Aug 18, 2010 1:36am
Quoting ForexKiwi
In my case it got me around the right sixth ie approx at the lower gold line. Attached is the chart. It's a little hard to see the arrow where the buy happened, but it's behind the recent big red down bar.
Ok, so working as expected. Sundog?
  • #145
  • Aug 18, 2010 1:42am Aug 18, 2010 1:42am
Several months ago I re-wrote the Sixth Screen indicator to first be a little more customizable in color choice, bar count, ability to shift forward/back, and adjust line width and type. But I also rewrote it so you can see "the past" accurately.

The version of the Sixth Screen indicator currently in use only shows you whats going on at the moment, which is fine and it works perfectly fine. However if you would like the ability to see where the lines "were" in the past so you can scroll back through your history and see where you would have made trades, then I recommend using this updated version.

Here is are some comparison screen shots so you can see the difference, the first is Sixth Screen indi currently in use

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next is the new version

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and finally the two overlapping so you can see they "line up" exactly on the current bar

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Finally, some notes on why its now named "Sixth Donchian". The "Donchian Channel" in an indicator that takes the highest high and lowest low of a set number of bars and draws a line indicating those values. You can then shift it forward and use the price closing above/below those lines for entry points. The "Sixth Screen" indicator takes the highest high and lowest low of a set number of bars and then divides then range showing "6" sections between the high/low.

I simply combined the two functions into one indicator that can be used to serve both functions. Anyway, enjoy!

EDIT: I should also point out that there are two additional lines available as well, which are the Highest High and Lowest Low, which the current Sixth Screen doesn't draw.
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  • #146
  • Aug 18, 2010 1:56am Aug 18, 2010 1:56am
Quoting f451
Ok, so working as expected. Sundog?
Mine is the same chart, and it looks like the same settings. And the other is similar.

Thanks for the feedback.
  • #147
  • Aug 18, 2010 2:08am Aug 18, 2010 2:08am
This is the second chart for information purposes, I stopped the trading after the trade to see how things pan out.
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  • #148
  • Aug 18, 2010 2:20am Aug 18, 2010 2:20am
Quoting Zurathustra
Several months ago I re-wrote the Sixth Screen indicator to first be a little more customizable in color choice, bar count, ability to shift forward/back, and adjust line width and type....
That is clever. Thanks.

  • #149
  • Aug 18, 2010 3:34am Aug 18, 2010 3:34am
Steve

I ran another backtest on EU yesterday using 0.01 lots. 242 seemed to be working fine as a sell trade went into dd a second sell opened for 0.02 lots. It went further into dd and a third sell trade opened for 0.04 lots. These trades then closed with a small loss of 0.86p, however the ea then stopped taking any more trades for over a year? Having run backtests without recovery I know there are plenty of trading opportunities. My trend detection is ADX if this helps

Paul
  • #150
  • Aug 18, 2010 3:49am Aug 18, 2010 3:49am
Quoting paulbt38
Steve

I ran another backtest on EU yesterday using 0.01 lots. 242 seemed to be working fine as a sell trade went into dd a second sell opened for 0.02 lots. It went further into dd and a third sell trade opened for 0.04 lots. These trades then closed with a small loss of 0.86p, however the ea then stopped taking any more trades for over a year? Having run backtests without recovery I know there are plenty of trading opportunities. My trend detection is ADX if this helps

Paul
Thanks Paul. I am not going to do anything about this. The robot has a minutes to bar end message at the top of the screen feed back.

I rarely care how many minutes there are until the bar ends; the sole purpose of this is to show that the robot is still working. I might change this to a local time display, but it does not matter.

I doubt any of us here would fail to notice the robot not working for a year.

  • #151
  • Aug 18, 2010 4:42am Aug 18, 2010 4:42am
Quoting Zurathustra
Several months ago I re-wrote the Sixth Screen indicator to first be a little more customizable in color choice, bar count, ability to shift forward/back, and adjust line width and type....
Nice work.
  • #152
  • Aug 18, 2010 4:46am Aug 18, 2010 4:46am
Quoting sundog
This is the second chart for information purposes, I stopped the trading after the trade to see how things pan out.
Are you using NB's SIXTHS indicator which uses windowpricemin and pricemax to calculate the sixths or a version of the Sixth's indicator that takes the high and low of the last x bars? (with x= 120 as default)?

Bob's templates use the window price min and max version but this is unreliable for an EA, and can give differing results. Steve moved to the sixths based on the high and low of the last barcount bars to avoid these kinds of inconsistencies.

If you are, the difference between what you see on the screen and values the EA is using could be enough to have caused the behaviour you posted.

regards
f451
  • #153
  • Aug 18, 2010 5:04am Aug 18, 2010 5:04am
Quoting SteveHopwood
Thanks Paul. I am not going to do anything about this. The robot has a minutes to bar end message at the top of the screen feed back.

I rarely care how many minutes there are until the bar ends; the sole purpose of this is to show that the robot is still working. I might change this to a local time display, but it does not matter.

I doubt any of us here would fail to notice the robot not working for a year.

Fair enough. I was hoping to use the backtesting to fine tune settings but this problem is now limiting that.

Paul
  • #154
  • Aug 18, 2010 5:04am Aug 18, 2010 5:04am
Hello F451,

I am using the Sixths 3.6 DC that was provided on page 1, I have set the bars to 120.

Is that correct? Thank you
  • #155
  • Aug 18, 2010 6:34am Aug 18, 2010 6:34am
Quoting sundog
Hello F451,

I am using the Sixths 3.6 DC that was provided on page 1, I have set the bars to 120.

Is that correct? Thank you
Yes.

  • #156
  • Aug 18, 2010 6:41am Aug 18, 2010 6:41am
Quoting paulbt38
Steve

I ran another backtest on EU yesterday using 0.01 lots. 242 seemed to be working fine as a sell trade went into dd a second sell opened for 0.02 lots. It went further into dd and a third sell trade opened for 0.04 lots. These trades then closed with a small loss of 0.86p, however the ea then stopped taking any more trades for over a year? Having run backtests without recovery I know there are plenty of trading opportunities. My trend detection is ADX if this helps

Paul
I have just been out. Driving, I realised that there is another line of code that I intended to add but did not get around to actually doing so.

The fix is in post 1 and is necessary if the robot is not to hang up its hat after sending the L3 trade. This would not last for a year, obviously, but would kill trading for the rest of the week.

  • #157
  • Aug 18, 2010 8:10am Aug 18, 2010 8:10am
Hi steve

Long time I didn't came to this forum
Congratulation for your robot, it's rock, I opened an alpari demo and it's works very fine ( all params= defaut).
(I also try trading Nanningbob on manual, that's a very good trading plan I think.)
With MIG brober I get "invalid stop" if I choose ECN=no, and if I choose "ECN=yes", it modify orders for pairs I do not use, look at the screen it's crazy !!!

By the way, my robot basket 525c is still on demo, up +44% (closed trades) although the DD is about 25%. Unfortunately I have no time to improved it, I think that if we include the philsophophy from Nanningbob to not trade between the green/gold lines to 525c this could improve the results.

Cheers
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  • #158
  • Aug 18, 2010 9:25am Aug 18, 2010 9:25am
Steve

Sorry to keep going on but I have attached copy of latest backtesting graph. With first loss level 2 trade kicked in and then subsequently reverted back to level 1, however subsequent losses didn't trigger any recovery level and the trade simply went on to hit emergency stop loss. These are the default settings with only lot size changed to 0.01.

Paul
  • #159
  • Aug 18, 2010 9:29am Aug 18, 2010 9:29am
Quoting SteveHopwood
Yes.

Thanks Steve
  • #160
  • Aug 18, 2010 10:37am Aug 18, 2010 10:37am
Quoting paulbt38
Steve

Sorry to keep going on but I have attached copy of latest backtesting graph. With first loss level 2 trade kicked in and then subsequently reverted back to level 1, however subsequent losses didn't trigger any recovery level and the trade simply went on to hit emergency stop loss. These are the default settings with only lot size changed to 0.01.

Paul
These are invaluable contributions, Paul. Each one has highlighted a missing line of code or a variable that needs re-setting. In this case, it is the variable that keeps track of the incremented magic number once recovery kicks in.

Fix in post 1 as usual.

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