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  • #11,841
  • Aug 17, 2010 10:51am Aug 17, 2010 10:51am
Quoting garrye
im in hongkong now the few people i trust on here know. and we will be keeping everyone informed its a little deeper than you think.please hold tight these things take time

The power of FF at its finest, well done garrye, I have no vested interest in this other then continuing to highlight this issue for the "newer" traders among us.

All these signal services and offers of managing a person's money are useless, does one really think that a trader (loosely used) like Jacko out of the goodness of his heart could be bothered offering a signal service or managing other people's money if he could trade himself to any level of success?

If we continue to add "wayne jackson forex scam" in the title we can assure that the spider bots will pick this up and continue ranking it high in search engines.

Or any combination of "Wayne Jackson", "Wayne Jackson scam", "Wayne Jackson FX", "Wayne Jackson Hong Kong", "Wayne Jackson Singapore"

You get the drift.
  • #11,842
  • Aug 17, 2010 10:54am Aug 17, 2010 10:54am
Quoting dawsonsg
Maybe send an email to Jacko . . . . . .
It is useless. He is not anwering any emails, not even those from investors. I have sent my ultimatum emails threatening filing complains to Hong Kong Security & Futures Commission (SFC HK), and the HK police, but he is still not responding. So I am now in the process of getting the filing done. It is pointless to wait. Let's get HSBC freeze his account.
  • #11,843
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:03am Aug 17, 2010 11:03am
Quoting flyer415
Bill,

That may not necessarily be so....
Brijon concocted a legal theory that FF is liable for this.

I quoted law which indicates that they are probably not.
I believe you misinterpret your objection to it. I think FF would have to be active participants in a fraud, before it is liable.

Yes, it will take a lawyer to sort it out. Yes, anyone can sue anyone else. They can sue a relative because they didn't stop them from sending their money off. Will they prevail? Of course not.

I don't think it helps anyone by raising hopes that someone else is going to have to pay for this. People who have lost money don't need to waste time running down rabbit holes.
  • #11,844
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:06am Aug 17, 2010 11:06am
Quoting wwwin
Take a look at Dan Gilbert, he was the one posting that jacko "was profitable quarter after quarter after quarter for years, even during the financial crisis". He might know where jacko is hiding now.
no no, I AM jacko!

you guys crack me up. You wonder why I can't take you seriously
Many choose unhappiness over uncertainty.
  • #11,845
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:10am Aug 17, 2010 11:10am
Quoting Dan Gilbert
no no, I AM jacko!

you guys crack me up. You wonder why I can't take you seriously
why were you pumping Jacko up so more people would send in funds and why were you trying to shut down any rational thinking? were you getting paid by jacko? Cause that makes you be part of the conspiracy and fully liable and responsible as if you were jacko. He needed pumpers like you for this to work. I think the feds may pay you a visit and request all your bank records. Once you get charged you will be a parrot and tell the feds were he is in return for a light sentence. That is the way to get to Jacko, have a gang member turn him in to save their arse.
  • #11,846
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:14am Aug 17, 2010 11:14am
Quoting wwwin
why were you pumping Jacko up so more people would send in funds and why were you trying to shut down any rationale thinking? were you getting paid by jacko? Cause may be part of the conspiracy.

You are wasting bandwidth triple W, such behaviour is typical of cult members:

 

  1. People are put in physical or emotionally distressing situations;
  2. Their problems are reduced to one simple explanation, which is repeatedly emphasized;
  3. They receive unconditional love, acceptance, and attention from a charismatic leader or group;
  4. They get a new identity based on the group;
  5. They are subject to entrapment (isolation from friends, relatives and the mainstream culture) and their access to information is severely controlled

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult

The Jacko members still meet all the above criteria. They can't help themselves and we should pity them not blame them or speak harshly to them. They need profesional help and care, and we are not qualified to offer that.

It is easy for us to see what is wrong here as we look from the outside in, they can't seperate themselves from the cult to have an independent view and opinion.

  • #11,847
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:15am Aug 17, 2010 11:15am
Quoting billbss
Brijon concocted a legal theory that FF is liable for this.

I quoted law which indicates that they are probably not.
I believe you misinterpret your objection to it. I think FF would have to be active participants in a fraud, before it is liable.

Yes, it will take a lawyer to sort it out. Yes, anyone can sue anyone else. They can sue a relative because they didn't stop them from sending their money off. Will they prevail? Of course not.

I don't think it helps anyone by raising hopes that someone else is going to have to pay for this. People who...

Bill,

I wasn't intending to have people waste time running down rabbit holes rather my intention was to have them get legal advice and have their lawyer tell them how to proceed. That may entail criminal and/or civil proceedings.

There has been too much legal advice on this issue and the only advice they should be listening to is that of their lawyer who they have paid for and who is looking after their best interest.
  • #11,848
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:20am Aug 17, 2010 11:20am
yeah, maybe you are right, but he should not know come here and try to clean his hands with this I had no evidence of fraud crap, he had no evidence of profits either, and he was not just a cultie, he went out of his way to pump this scam up and tried to have the posts removed, I can bet you he was a clean up report clicking machine ... one of the more dedicated cutlies, a high ranking and very active cultie...he should not be dismissed lightly.

Quoting cloggie
You are wasting bandwidth triple W, such behaviour is typical of cult members:

 

  1. People are put in physical or emotionally distressing situations;
  2. Their problems are reduced to one simple explanation, which is repeatedly emphasized;
  3. They receive unconditional love, acceptance, and attention from a charismatic leader or group;
  4. They get a new identity based on the group;
  5. They are subject to entrapment (isolation from friends, relatives and the mainstream culture) and their access to information is severely controlled

source:...

  • #11,849
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:20am Aug 17, 2010 11:20am
Quoting cloggie
The power of FF at its finest, well done garrye, I have no vested interest in this other then continuing to highlight this issue for the "newer" traders among us.

All these signal services and offers of managing a person's money are useless, does one really think that a trader (loosely used) like Jacko out of the goodness of his heart could be bothered offering a signal service or managing other people's money if he could trade himself to any level of success?

If we continue to add "wayne jackson forex scam" in the title we can assure that...
we cant let this happen again,thanks for your great support and all the people who care,everyone who can help is much
appreciated some decent hard working people have not only lost money but faith in themselves,feel for them this thread has been the core. 90% of folks on here are honest and we should not judge,i know im rude sometimes and my grammer is bad but lets help all me can,its the least we can do right
student
  • #11,850
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:23am Aug 17, 2010 11:23am
Quoting wwwin
why were you pumping Jacko up so more people would send in funds and why were you trying to shut down any rational thinking? were you getting paid by jacko? Cause that makes you be part of the conspiracy and fully liable and responsible as if you were jacko.
I wasn't "pumping him up"

I was simply thinking logically (the fact this thing has never been uncovered until now).

At this point in time I do agree it's a scam, I'm just defending my original position that I had when the ball started rolling.

The way you guys (EDIT: THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE FUNDS INVESTED) are approaching this whole thing is not very appropriate.

Its good to see we have some of the investors (a couple people here posted that they had given over $50k) now posting in this thread, because they are the real victims, and can give REAL INSIGHT to what is actually going on. The rest of you are just calling each other names and then accusing me of being in the scam, when clearly I have nothing to do with it.

If someone would have presented some evidence when this debacle first started, I would have had a completely different stance.

The first thing someone could have done was post his "guaranteed returns" promise to his investors.

the admins have my IP, and based on how bad your detective work has been up to this point, I imagine I'll get a call from the FBI. lol.
Many choose unhappiness over uncertainty.
  • #11,851
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:24am Aug 17, 2010 11:24am
Quoting Dan Gilbert
no no, I AM jacko!

you guys crack me up. You wonder why I can't take you seriously
dan let it rest ok your comments are as bad as your trading
student
  • #11,852
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:27am Aug 17, 2010 11:27am
Quoting flyer415
Bill,

I wasn't intending to have people waste time running down rabbit holes rather my intention was to have them get legal advice and have their lawyer tell them how to proceed. That may entail criminal and/or civil proceedings.

There has been too much legal advice on this issue and the only advice they should be listening to is that of their lawyer who they have paid for and who is looking after their best interest.
and then dan can suck his own co#k
student
  • #11,853
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:28am Aug 17, 2010 11:28am
Quoting garrye
and then dan can suck his own co#k
another example of why I cannot take you guys seriously.

the comment I quoted is someone who is trying to uncover a scam.

good luck you guys.
Many choose unhappiness over uncertainty.
  • #11,854
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:31am Aug 17, 2010 11:31am
"quarter after quarter after quarter of years of profit even during the financial crisis", and that is not pumping?? "guaranteed 30% out of his own money if needed " logical and not a red flag?

I am going to report you to the feds as part of the conspiracy.

OH AND TODAY YOU AGREE IS A SCAM BUT YESTERDAY YOU WERE SAYING TO WAIT? WHAT HAPPENED B/T YESTERDAY AND TODAY TO CHANGE YOUR MIND?

Quoting Dan Gilbert
I wasn't "pumping him up"

I was simply thinking logically (the fact this thing has never been uncovered until now).

At this point in time I do agree it's a scam, I'm just defending my original position that I had when the ball started rolling.

The way you guys (EDIT: THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE FUNDS INVESTED) are approaching this whole thing is not very appropriate.

Its good to see we have some of the investors (a couple people here posted that they had given over $50k) now posting in this thread, because they are the real victims, and...
  • #11,855
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:32am Aug 17, 2010 11:32am
Quoting wwwin
"quarter after quarter after quarter of years of profit even during the financial crisis", "guaranteed 30% out of his own money" logical?

I am going to report you to the feds as part of the conspiracy.
go for it... all my opinions are based on the information that has been presented in this thread.
Many choose unhappiness over uncertainty.
  • #11,856
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:36am Aug 17, 2010 11:36am
And by the way, no I DO NOT think that a fund manager promising guranteed returns is logical, that is the definition of a scam

THE PROBLEM IS, NO ONE PRESENTED THAT INFORMATION UNTIL MUCH MUCH MUCH LATER.

Most of you are missing my point completely.
Many choose unhappiness over uncertainty.
  • #11,857
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:39am Aug 17, 2010 11:39am
Quoting wwwin
yeah, maybe you are right, but he should not know come here and try to clean his hands with this I had no evidence of fraud crap, he had no evidence of profits either, and he was not just a cultie, he went out of his way to pump this scam up and tried to have the posts removed, I can bet you he was a clean up report clicking machine ... one of the more dedicated cutlies, a high ranking and very active cultie...he should not be dismissed lightly.

and more accusations, I never even knew about the "clean up" button until after twee posted in this thread recently.

Again, you are basing everything on nothing.
Many choose unhappiness over uncertainty.
  • #11,858
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:41am Aug 17, 2010 11:41am
Quoting wwwin
OH AND TODAY YOU AGREE IS A SCAM BUT YESTERDAY YOU WERE SAYING TO WAIT? WHAT HAPPENED B/T YESTERDAY AND TODAY TO CHANGE YOUR MIND?

I said before that I wasn't 100% convinced one way or the other.

Now we have (I think) two people who truly have funds invested that have come forward.

Before those people had arrived, all we had was speculation on the situation. Now I feel we have real insight.
Many choose unhappiness over uncertainty.
  • #11,859
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:46am Aug 17, 2010 11:46am
Quoting Dan Gilbert
I'm not in the group.... but.... gold? Seems like Jacko would crush any commodity market to be honest. He does already have a ton of futures trading under his belt to begin with.

Tsst, Dan. These are the kind of posts you can find on this thread from you. Made Jacko look like the best thing since sliced bread and helped him to further his scam. Your first posts here were on the Jacko thread.

So you are either immature and gullible or have some more sinister motives.

You are/were part of his cult either knowingly or unknowingly and helped to creat his persona. "ton of futures trading under his belt", how did you come up with that unless you are either closely associated with him, are part of his group, or just like to make things up to make you look better and more informed.
  • #11,860
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:49am Aug 17, 2010 11:49am
Quoting cloggie
Tsst, Dan. These are the kind of posts you can find on this thread from you. Made Jacko look like the best thing since sliced bread and helped him to further his scam. Your first posts here were on the Jacko thread.

So you are either immature and gullible or have some more sinister motives.
All my opinions are based on what is presented in this thread.

Was I gullible? Perhaps I was. Jacko stated he had 15 years of commodity trading under his belt, and for whatever reason, I believed it.

Like I said before, I only believed everything because this thread stood the test of time for so long.
Many choose unhappiness over uncertainty.
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