Remote Viewing

These threads invariably end like this..again FF is found undeserving.

Don't bother.

5%er with all due respect to you, since you posted this in the trading systems sections you should have described the process you use in detail.

this is a very unorthodox method and if you're vague about it you cant really blame people for being skeptical.

For those of you who are curious to know if this works or not, Major Ed Dames was the head of the remote viewing unit of the US army. He produced a 4 disc set describing the process in detail, you can get it off amazon or if you're skeptical then you can find a 8GB torrent for the course on the internet, if after seeing it you find it not to be a scam you could go ahead and buy it from Amazon, so the producer gets his dues.

Just shows there are gullible people everywhere. I watched his RV thing btw back when I was gullible too.

Remote Viewing works. End of story.

Can it be used to predict movements in the FOREX markets? Yes, though it isn't by any means a holy grail. Here's one method:

ARV (associative remote viewing)

Take two outcomes:

A: GBP/USD will NOT breach 1.55 by Friday
B: GBP/USD WILL breach 1.55 by Friday

Now find two photographs/images, print them off. On the back of one write outcome A and on the back of the other write outcome B. Make sure that the two pictures are of wholly different things (eg volcano erupting vs kitten)

Assign two four digit numbers to the experiment, randomly (eg 1617 1012)

Send those numbers to the remote viewer (nothing else, no other information AT ALL). At some point on Saturday morning you are going to send them the image with the outcome that actually occurs to them. So if Cable breaches 1.55 by Friday, then you send them the corresponding picture.

BEFORE that time, the remote viewer attempts to describe the picture they will see on Saturday morning. They send you their description and you match this to one of the two images.

You now know that the remote viewer has 'seen' the image that you are going to show them on Saturday...you should also now have a prediction (the outcome attached or 'associated' with the picture the viewer has described.

Make trades accordingly, send on whichever picture the outcome dictates come Saturday morning and you're done. Hopefully it went well.

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This in a nutshell is Associative Remote Viewing. Anyone want to set up a target/outcome for me to do next week just shout and I'll give it a bash.

Cheers,

BnoM

WTF

Thats the longest ending to a story Ive ever read

So whats happening on Saturday?

Don't forget the CHICKEN BLOOD.....

LMAO typical dark ages response. You guys are clearly unaware of current quantum physics theory, the non-linearity of time, the masses and masses of scientific work on non-local perception, mirror neurons and a whole host of other research and theory that not only supports the reality of remote viewing but actually predicts it as a function of reality.

Instead you dismiss a concept of which you have ZERO understanding with the phrase 'chicken blood'. Now what does that say about your level of intellect...?

Ok guys, take it easy. Anyone with a brain - I recommend a little research and private experimentation. You two guys above go dance round a bonfire and swap tips on spear-whittling.

BnoM

Quoting BillyNoMates

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LMAO typical dark ages response. You guys are clearly unaware of current quantum physics theory, the non-linearity of time, the masses and masses of scientific work on non-local perception, mirror neurons and a whole host of other research and theory that not only supports the reality of remote viewing but actually predicts it as a function of reality.

Ignored

I will once I see someone post here with more than 7 posts


If you have some proof post it...

Wasting peoples' time? Pardon me for being able to read but I believe the title of this thread is 'remote viewing' and starts with some posters asking questions about the very thing I am trying to explain.

YOU'RE the one wasting people's time; you clearly have no interest in the subject and thus are posting only to attack something and someone you know nothing about.

I am gauging from your reliance on heavy fonts that you are probably in your early teens so I guess that's to be expected.

I never said anything about getting rich. I never said that RV was the holy grail. I am simply trying to explain to anyone interested how RV CAN be used to make money, with a lot of time, practice and talent. Check out this guy who averaged a 62% prediction rate over a span of some 3000 ARV trials. I believe he also made a significant amount of money in the process:

http://www.remote-viewing.com/indexmain.html

Yours in anticipation of some lovely big bold fontage,

BnoM

Now this is a brilliant Idea that didn't come to my mind before. I always thought I would have to be a remote viewer myself to make experiments with it but the way you described it it is indistinguishable (for the viewer) from the standard procedure and I can let any remote viewer do the job without telling him about what I do.

I rember having read somewhere that when they [some research group whose name I have forgotten] tried to do remote viewing stock quotes for profit to fund their research it only worked when the viewer did not know about (or was not impacted by) the resulting profit or loss.

There are forums on the web where remote viewers volunteer to practice their skills or just for fun and one can send them jobs to view. Maybe I should design a simple protocol and a trading strategy that has a definite fixed start and end time (both in the future to give the viewer enough time for viewing) and only 2 possible outcomes of equal chances, and then start doing some real experiments with remote viewers who will not have the slightest idea of what they are actually doing for me.

Hi 7bit.

The term 'remote viewing' was originally developed at SRI in the seventies and basically revolves around a strict scientific protocol where the remote viewer KNOWS NOTHING about the target they are attempting to describe. All they get are a set of random co-ordinates.

eg I take a photograph of the Great Pyramid, and write the following cue 'please describe the focus of this photograph' on the back of it. I then place the photo in an envelope and scrawl a random 4 digit number on the back. I then send the number to the viewer. That is ALL they get.

The benefits of this protocol are twofold:

1) Seeing as the remote viewer has NO idea what the target is, any information they have can be easily verified as either accurate or false. There is no way they could simply have 'guessed' what the target was...as it could have been anything, anywhere, at any point in time. In the above example, if your viewer describes a big stone triangular edifice, then chances are they actually DID perceive the target.

If they describe a little fluffy animal then clearly they didn't lol

2) The main problem for anyone attempting to remote view is one's own IMAGINATION. The minute one starts getting impressions of the target the imagination kicks in and starts trying to 'guess'...normally with pretty fatal results. (This is termed AOL or 'analytic overlay')

By knowing NOTHING about the target, the remote viewer's job is made that much easier as they are less likely to be distracted by subconsciously or consciously trying to 'work out' what the target is likely to be.

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I am well aware that this is a FOREX forum and as such all this RV stuff may not be too relevant. If you have a real interest then please pop over and say hi at http://www.dojopsi.info/forum/. It's a big, free and friendly community of remote viewers (many of whom have an interest in predicting markets). I'm Marv, a member of the admin team.

I'm also a part-time FOREX trader (still practising with micro account) and a long time lurker on these boards...should anyone wonder what in hell I'm doing here. Funnily enough it was my passion for RV that lead me to FOREX; but that's another story.

Anyway, enough from me for now. Have a great weekend.

BnoM

True

NOT TRUE

This proves nothing. Cut the BS and put your money where your mouth is... Show us some live examples

One step ahead of you

BillyNoMates hasn't written any BS, instead he provided valuable input for the topic of this thread. The link he posted contains some of the most relevant information about RV and trading I have seen so far and the protocol he described a few posts earlier is almost (or could easily me made into) a complete trading strategy with clearly defined rules. The link he posted actually contains a complete trading strategy with strict rules and a statistical evaluation of it's successful application during a 12 year period. And neither BillyNoMates nor the author of the website he linked try to sell you *anything*.

So what "BS" exactly are you referring to?

If I were asked to locate the actual BS in this thread I could immediately identify a few postings with bold fonts and a few others with stupid childish remarks that are completely void of any content at all.

holy crap that dude started the thread about tea leaf readings and now this whats the world coming to my heads hurting trying to understand

regards damien

BTW

We have established that im an imature big font using baby - So no need to keep thread bashing me

Thats ok I'm not going anywhere now lets get this thread back on topic and talk turkey

What exactly is the point of writing predictions on the back of 2 different photos I don't get it?

The floor is yours

YOU have no right to call something "scam" without being able to support your absurd claims against well observed reality with only the slightest bit of reason or some sort of arguments.

The burden of proof is on you because the topic of this thread is revolving around a hypothesis (remote viewing) that

 

1. is not in any conflict with our currently accepted scientific models
2. has given strong statistical evidence for the presence of this effect in countless controlled measurements during the last 50 years or so.

It seems that every attempt to experimentally disprove the presence of the effect is instead leading to more evidence strongly supporting it by easily producing z-scores up to 3 and beyond (which alone would already be treated like undeniable proof in many other areas). It's not easy to brush aside an effect that is clearly showing its presence the stronger the more and better measurements one does. And why should one want to brush it aside anyways? It does not violate our current understanding of physics in any way.

You sound like the Spanish inquisition insisting on the earth being the center of the universe while every single measurement and calculation ever made is screaming the opposite and even your own mathematical models and understanding would perfectly permit it, even favor it, only your holy dogma is prohibiting it for no reason.

If you want to dismiss the well observed effects of RV as wrong you would have to do at least one of the following:

 

1. find flaws in the decades of well documented work that has been done in Princeton and Stanford and elsewhere and repeat all their experiments or correct their calculations to prove them wrong and that there is no statistical significance.
2. come up with a better physical model of our world that would still explain everything our scientists have observed so far and additionally makes assertions about the non-existance or impossibility of RV (which our current models do not, our current models do not make any assertions about it at all, instead they leave enough room to allow it, even suggest mechanisms to explain it).

There is currently simply no reason to doubt the existence of these effects after they have been observed and their strength been measured and documented by so many different researchers and reputable scientific organizations and universities around the world, instead one would be a fool to stubbornly deny this reality, maybe your true name is Don Quixote?

i agree with the cat

regards damien

LOL Damo

I agree it's a bit of a head-hurter. Check out this little slide-show (not mine) for a bit more clarity on how ARV works:

http://www.remote-viewing.com/




eh? I'm not selling anything here, just distributing information. Feel free to investigate or ignore as you see fit...

So why is this in ithe commercial forum?

LOL at Damos cat!