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  • #841
  • Aug 10, 2010 3:31pm Aug 10, 2010 3:31pm
sanyhuis, I really cannot send anything via PM, but here is

the settings (attached)

I'm using those settings for Sasha's EA v5.0 (sorry, didn't load v5.1 yet)

Just rename *.txt to *.set

But new version already Out.. ones My orders closed I'll load 5.1

Cheers
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  • #842
  • Aug 10, 2010 3:55pm Aug 10, 2010 3:55pm
Quoting SkyzerFX
sanyhuis, I really cannot send anything via PM, but here is

the settings (attached)

I'm using those settings for Sasha's EA v5.0 (sorry, didn't load v5.1 yet)

Just rename *.txt to *.set

But new version already Out.. ones My orders closed I'll load 5.1

Cheers
saved it as a .set file and uploaded on first page
to load the settings in, anybody has to click Load button on the Inputs tab
  • #843
  • Aug 10, 2010 4:22pm Aug 10, 2010 4:22pm
Sky
The new v5.1 causes a problem with your v5 set resulting in an options conflict between the Adjusttakeprofit and the Pipscounterexit. Not sure how to resolve this as I have not worked out exactly what Sash is intending here. I will just experiment and see.
Karl
  • #844
  • Aug 10, 2010 4:30pm Aug 10, 2010 4:30pm
Quoting scartree
Sky
The new v5.1 causes a problem with your v5 set resulting in an options conflict between the Adjusttakeprofit and the Pipscounterexit. Not sure how to resolve this as I have not worked out exactly what Sash is intending here. I will just experiment and see.
Karl
either of Adjusttakeprofit and Pipscounterexit should be true, but not both
in other words you cannot use those options together, because there is no reason to adjust take profit if orders will be closed when summary amount of pips will be reached
  • #845
  • Aug 10, 2010 4:55pm Aug 10, 2010 4:55pm
Quoting SkyzerFX
Yeap, I just look over Geo Original v17 and Backtests are fine as you

already know, so if we just add to original our buy limit/buy stop

and also implement that timing thing, as Sasha mention earlier,

then we should be fine..

Thanks..


Sky I'm really sorry for my late response.
I was out off screen for a while.
Yes, you are right, there are some ideas which Sasha mention earlier about.
Just need be patient .

Regards
Mac.
  • #846
  • Aug 10, 2010 5:02pm Aug 10, 2010 5:02pm
Quoting sashasan
Mac, just wait a little bit for the 5.1, there will be more interesting feature as i think, which we called "pips counter", it will close the positions based on a summary pips profit, so 2 limit orders will simply work as a "counter-coverage" for the 1 order
Hi Sasha.

I'm sorry for my late response.
Yes, I'm specially hope for all existing orders "pips counter" to calculate eventual lose/profit and place "exit level ".

Great thanks anyway to YOU and all contributors.

Regards

Mac.
  • #847
  • Aug 10, 2010 5:09pm Aug 10, 2010 5:09pm
Quoting sashasan
saved it as a .set file and uploaded on first page
to load the settings in, anybody has to click Load button on the Inputs tab
Wow! Dear Sasha.

You are fantastic and great coder.
I didn't realize that, the V5.1 is already out.
Many Thanks Sasha.

Mac.
  • #848
  • Aug 10, 2010 5:20pm Aug 10, 2010 5:20pm
Quoting MacMG
Wow! Dear Sasha.

You are fantastic and great coder.
I didn't realize that, the V5.1 is already out.
Many Thanks Sasha.

Mac.
  • #849
  • Aug 10, 2010 7:14pm Aug 10, 2010 7:14pm
Great Job" Again" Sash, can I ask a question, the pip counter , does it work for pips in profit, or loss in pips. I backteasted and tried to set it a couple of different numbers, when I know a dd was coming , just not sure how it works , but will keep trying.

fishman356
  • #850
  • Aug 10, 2010 8:10pm Aug 10, 2010 8:10pm
Quoting sashasan
so is the counter a total exit with profir for all 3 orders? if so, say PC is 36, that 12 pip profit. doesn't this make setting the TP's obsolete?
  • #851
  • Aug 10, 2010 8:33pm Aug 10, 2010 8:33pm
Hi,
First i said thanks for these great trading tools. I've tried in my demo account,and potential working . But i have some confusing about the time setting. I lived in Jakarta area,please tell me about the time setting.Is it ok if i'm using ur skyv5.set? or there is some changes at the tools setting. Thanks
  • #852
  • Edited 8:59pm Aug 10, 2010 8:42pm | Edited 8:59pm
Quoting fishman356
Great Job" Again" Sash, can I ask a question, the pip counter , does it work for pips in profit, or loss in pips. I backteasted and tried to set it a couple of different numbers, when I know a dd was coming , just not sure how it works , but will keep trying.

fishman356
ok, here is an example:
lets say we have default settings :
PipsCounterStartHour = 5 and
PipsCounterExit = 20

first option means # of hours when this option will be activated, so lets say we opened a set of orders at 17:00, so after 5 hours, 22:00, if orders will be still opened, this option will start to work.
second option means a average number of pips for all opened orders.

so, lets say we opened a set of orders from 1 market and 2 limits, after some time those limits got activated - each of them (since the open price is for each one is different) has a different amount of pips in balance, lets say we are in big minus now and 1st buy has - 50 pips (if Open Price is 1.4550 and ask is 1.4500), so 2 buy has - 30 pips (if open price is 1.4530) and 3 buy has -10 pips (if its price is 1.4490). what this option does is it calculates average amount of pips for all opened orders (-50 + -30 + -10 /3 = -30) and compares this value with the PipsCounterExit. in this case it will do nothing since this pips amount is less than defined in PipsCounterExit.

lets say, after some time market reversed up and finally reached a price of 1.4520, in this case average balance of 3 orders will be -30 + -10 + 30 /3 = -3.33 pips, PipsCounterExit will still do nothing.

but later on, market goes up again and gets a price of 1,4545, in this case we have -5 + 15 + 55 / 3 = 21.66 so a little bit before this price all 3 orders will be closed because average amount of pips (21.66) is greater than 20 which we have set up PipsCounterExit.

ok

this example will work if we have equal lot sizes, but if we have different lots, calculations will be also different, proportionally with the lot sizes. in the previous example we devided summary amount of pips by 3 because we thought all of them are equal and like 33.33%.
but, make a little change. lets say we have lot 1 = 1.0, lot = 0.5 and lot = 0.1. in this case we will need to do a more difficult math because 1 lot will be 62.5%, lot 2 = 31.25% and lot 3 = 6.25%, finally with all the calculations we will need a little higher price because the first lot will "overweight" 2 others (too lazy to calculate the exact value, sorry )

ok, but here are some important things.
sometimes, when a lots ratio is really big (lets say lot 1 is 1.0 (83.33%), lot 2 is 0.1 (8.33%) and lot 3 is 0.1 (8.33%)) a positive amount of pips does not mean the positive summary balance of opened positions in our account's currency, so on backtests i saw situations when PipsCounterExit was more then 20 pips, but total balance for opened positions was still negative, in this case PipsCounterExit will close orders when pips average value will be greater than 20 and total balance will become positive (actually, here it will be closed at 0.01$ of total as a first positive value after 0.00$).

also, you obviously understand, if you will set up here a negative average pips value (lets say -10), it will close all the orders when this average pips amount will be reached, and it still would be a good choice comparing to a full loss of 3 x 140 pips.



hope this helps
  • #853
  • Aug 10, 2010 9:05pm Aug 10, 2010 9:05pm
yes understand. missed the part that this wouldn't activate until "x" hours, so if market takes off in our direction all tp's and trails, etc still good until this start hour hit .

Thanks so much.

Will try to set up some forward tests on alternate markets this weekend.

Peace sasha
  • #854
  • Aug 10, 2010 9:50pm Aug 10, 2010 9:50pm
Sash - thanks for your explanation of the pipscounterexit. Your examples helped to understand.
Karl
  • #855
  • Aug 10, 2010 9:53pm Aug 10, 2010 9:53pm
It is a very good strategy, now we Know the basics, it will take a little screen time , and again finding the correct "Combination" of tp,sl,etc. Trying to succeed, is never a failure.
I was doing a lot of backtesting with smaller take profits, 15,17,22, and had alot more trades, your in and out most of the time with a profit, but the drawdown were bad when they hit, now with this new feature, I am hoping but not sure if it will work with this small amount of profit, and if not I will try with larger tp. There has to be a pattern, find the pattern we find the answer. Sash, you do know what you are doing and as you said " When You will reach the Top of the Mountain, Continue to" Clamber= to climb, using both feet and hands; climb with effort or difficulty," up further. We will get it right. You do some fine work.
Always

fishman356
  • #856
  • Aug 10, 2010 10:05pm Aug 10, 2010 10:05pm
Quoting stifland
yes understand. missed the part that this wouldn't activate until "x" hours, so if market takes off in our direction all tp's and trails, etc still good until this start hour hit .

Thanks so much.

Will try to set up some forward tests on alternate markets this weekend.

Peace sasha
well, this option, as well as adjust profit, was developed for ranging market times when orders triggered and far from take profit and not in deep minus at the same time.

if you will set the hours # to 2 for example and get a trend move with at least 2 orders triggered, positions will be closed before order 1 take profit will be reached because average pips amount will be more than 20 earlier than 1st take profit, which is 20 too
  • #857
  • Aug 10, 2010 10:09pm Aug 10, 2010 10:09pm
Quoting sashasan
ok, but here are some important things.
sometimes, when a lots ratio is really big (lets say lot 1 is 1.0 (83.33%), lot 2 is 0.1 (8.33%) and lot 3 is 0.1 (8.33%)) a positive amount of pips does not mean the positive summary balance of opened positions in our account's currency, so on backtests i saw situations when PipsCounterExit was more then 20 pips, but total balance for opened positions was still negative, in this case PipsCounterExit will close orders when pips average value will be greater than 20 [b]and total balance will become...
also, forgot to mention, positive pips average and negative total orders balance will also happen if orders will be placed too far from each other, for example if to place the 3rd order to 60-80 pips away from first two
  • #858
  • Aug 11, 2010 4:00am Aug 11, 2010 4:00am
Quoting SkyzerFX
sanyhuis, I really cannot send anything via PM, but here is

the settings (attached)

I'm using those settings for Sasha's EA v5.0 (sorry, didn't load v5.1 yet)

Just rename *.txt to *.set

But new version already Out.. ones My orders closed I'll load 5.1

Cheers
Sky,
Appreciate it very much.
s
  • #859
  • Aug 11, 2010 5:26am Aug 11, 2010 5:26am
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Here is a chart and of the last buy trade, white ma = 10 , red ma = 197,
light blue ma = 560, the blue box and red arrow indicates were the buy should have been a sell. I know this ea works off of mas and fractals, maybe it needs a third ma to conform direction. Only a suggestion.
  • #860
  • Aug 11, 2010 6:37am Aug 11, 2010 6:37am
Quoting fishman356
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Here is a chart and of the last buy trade, white ma = 10 , red ma = 197,
light blue ma = 560, the blue box and red arrow indicates were the buy should have been a sell. I know this ea works off of mas and fractals, maybe it needs a third ma to conform direction. Only a suggestion.
Yeah, mine hit SL too. AS far as I can see on your Screen 197MA is pointed down,

not sure why EA take that trade..
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