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  • #2,061
  • Jul 13, 2010 6:13pm Jul 13, 2010 6:13pm
http://www.lawoftime.org/thirteenmoon/tutorial.html
  • #2,062
  • Jul 13, 2010 8:21pm Jul 13, 2010 8:21pm
Hi,

There are some fundamental questions I suggest all of you to consider :-

1 - How do you reconcile the 2 positioning systems, i.e. geocentric and heliocentric. Obviously you have 2 centers in these 2 systems, and coordinates tends to converge for planets that are further away from the Earth / Sun.

2 - If you use aspects, then think about this, does that mean a particular aspect i.e. your 45 / 90 / 120 / 180 etc affects all asset classes at the same time? The effect could be up or down, but from what you guys have been discussing so far, you are implying that the only point of reversal happens when you have an aspect, i.e. the point of reversal are the same for all assets, or half of the assets in the world.

3 - From 2, let's suppose there are 4 aspects that are important to the market, then there could only be 2x2x2x2=16 unique asset classes in the world, by unique I mean they have different reversal points. Does this make sense to you?

Please think about the above questions if you are interested in trading this way, for they would put you on the correct path.

Regards,
Archimedes
  • #2,063
  • Jul 14, 2010 3:54am Jul 14, 2010 3:54am
Quoting Archimedes
Hi,

There are some fundamental questions I suggest all of you to consider :-

1 - How do you reconcile the 2 positioning systems, i.e. geocentric and heliocentric. Obviously you have 2 centers in these 2 systems, and coordinates tends to converge for planets that are further away from the Earth / Sun.

2 - If you use aspects, then think about this, does that mean a particular aspect i.e. your 45 / 90 / 120 / 180 etc affects all asset classes at the same time? The effect could be up or down, but from what you guys have been discussing so far, you...
Thanks for your interesting questions. I don't know about others, but for me aspects are only one of the points to take note. They are not determinants.
  • #2,064
  • Jul 14, 2010 5:44am Jul 14, 2010 5:44am
i m printing it http://www.lawoftime.org/pdfs/SelfexistingSeed.pdf
http://www.lawoftime.org/pdfs/SelfexistingSeed_b.pdf
however it was for year before...
  • #2,065
  • Jul 14, 2010 6:55am Jul 14, 2010 6:55am
Dear Astrotraders collegues,
first of all I wish to thank you for your contribution to this thread. I study astrology since about 20 years but just recently trying to link my studies to the financial world.
So, I also wish to thank Vic (Bumasoft) for kindly sharing some of his astro indicators and I just want to share with you my template.
This is a 20 years weekly chart of EURUSD I just setup with the following indicators: I choosed Mars aspects with Jupiter, saturn, uranus, pluto and chiron (in each of the subwindow, respectively) plotting exclusively conjunctions (the peaks above 0 line) and oppositions (dips under the 0 line).
I remember this was James advice.
I didn't have time to discover anything 'till now, and I hope it can be of some interest for some researchers like you in this field.

I discovered this thread a few days ago and reading it from the beginning. So I apologize if some concept were already discussed in the past.

@ Archimedes: I always consider geocentric aspects since this subject (like any other human activity) takes place on this planet.

Happy trading and research to all

Giacomo
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  • #2,066
  • Jul 14, 2010 11:11am Jul 14, 2010 11:11am
boy o boy ... !

life must be much simpler ...can't be so complicated ...or can it be ? ....surely the Big Boys can't be playing like this .... another heap of material to study ... wish there is a much simpler way to skin the cat .....

sigh !
  • #2,067
  • Jul 14, 2010 2:01pm Jul 14, 2010 2:01pm
Quoting jack-fx
Dear Astrotraders collegues,
first of all I wish to thank you for your contribution to this thread. I study astrology since about 20 years but just recently trying to link my studies to the financial world.
So, I also wish to thank Vic (Bumasoft) for kindly sharing some of his astro indicators and I just want to share with you my template.
This is a 20 years weekly chart of EURUSD I just setup with the following indicators: I choosed Mars aspects with Jupiter, saturn, uranus, pluto and chiron (in each of the subwindow, respectively) plotting...
Hi Giacomo,

Why are you choosing Mars aspects?
  • #2,068
  • Jul 14, 2010 2:16pm Jul 14, 2010 2:16pm
Please check the Venus aspects on commodities. Venus, Jupiter, Saturn and you could also include Uranus, although I didn't, but look what happens when they make an aspect.
Also note the Jupiter-Saturn aspect on 5/30/2010 the latest turn on the EURUSD.
For this example I just picked oppositions, geocentric.
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  • #2,069
  • Jul 14, 2010 2:20pm Jul 14, 2010 2:20pm
And also check the helio aspects.
If not you might miss out.
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  • #2,070
  • Jul 14, 2010 10:56pm Jul 14, 2010 10:56pm
Quoting Ilovepippin

Venus aspects on commodities. Venus, Jupiter, Saturn

look what happens when they make an aspect.

geocentric.
helio
hi Ilovepippin

the chart looks simple enough to grasp , assuming the spikes are the opposition of the planets (180 aspect) , but how do u interpret it ?

there seems to no consistency at the aspects , or did i miss the 'meat' for the 'bones' ..or the alignment u have observed ?

ur 'nudge' will help in interpreting the charts better .

thanks .
  • #2,071
  • Jul 15, 2010 6:30am Jul 15, 2010 6:30am
Quoting TheArcher
hi Ilovepippin

the chart looks simple enough to grasp , assuming the spikes are the opposition of the planets (180 aspect) , but how do u interpret it ?

there seems to no consistency at the aspects , or did i miss the 'meat' for the 'bones' ..or the alignment u have observed ?

ur 'nudge' will help in interpreting the charts better .

thanks .
If I may chime in - you might want to use such aspects as alert to some major turning point or significant movement. It is recommended to use your own system of technical indicators to take trades and not on planetary movements alone. The movements and positioning are good alerts as context, but you find entries based on your technical indicators or other trading system.
  • #2,072
  • Jul 15, 2010 7:11am Jul 15, 2010 7:11am
Quoting TheArcher
hi Ilovepippin

the chart looks simple enough to grasp , assuming the spikes are the opposition of the planets (180 aspect) , but how do u interpret it ?

there seems to no consistency at the aspects , or did i miss the 'meat' for the 'bones' ..or the alignment u have observed ?

ur 'nudge' will help in interpreting the charts better .

thanks .
I don't.
All I was trying to make clear is that market turns sometimes coincide with heliocentric aspects as well. In fact, Gann used heliocentric aspects quite often.
  • #2,073
  • Jul 16, 2010 12:27am Jul 16, 2010 12:27am
26th July there will be a major aspect, Saturn 180 Uranus, anyone wants to try interpret this?
  • #2,074
  • Jul 16, 2010 12:34am Jul 16, 2010 12:34am
Also 25th July and 3rd August, Jupiter will square Pluto twice, I think we also need to watch for these!
  • #2,075
  • Jul 16, 2010 3:29am Jul 16, 2010 3:29am
Quoting Ilovepippin
Hi Giacomo,

Why are you choosing Mars aspects?
Just because, like exactly your Venus study, it seems to be more interesting from a statistical and practical point of view.

I can't assign the same importance to a moon aspect (say Moon-Ura) and to a medium planet aspect (like Ven or Mar).

Also, considering synodic periods, these two offer a higher frequency of aspects during the year.
I.e.: we can't wait for events like a Jup-Sat conjunction only. It takes place every 20 years!
Sat-Ura? 45 years
Nep-Plu ? 492 years only.

Maybe these figures are not so common and not into possession of beginners. I agree this is a very hard subject but fascinating at the same time.
  • #2,076
  • Jul 16, 2010 3:34am Jul 16, 2010 3:34am
Quoting Ilovepippin
Please check the Venus aspects on commodities.
Fully agree.
Commodities -especially land's products- are strictly linked to nature's cycles. Even though I didn't investigate -just for a lack of time- I'm pretty sure about a more strict link about commodities and astro events.
  • #2,077
  • Jul 16, 2010 6:18am Jul 16, 2010 6:18am
Quoting jack-fx
Just because, like exactly your Venus study, it seems to be more interesting from a statistical and practical point of view.

I can't assign the same importance to a moon aspect (say Moon-Ura) and to a medium planet aspect (like Ven or Mar).

Also, considering synodic periods, these two offer a higher frequency of aspects during the year.
I.e.: we can't wait for events like a Jup-Sat conjunction only. It takes place every 20 years!
Sat-Ura? 45 years
Nep-Plu ? 492 years only.

Maybe these figures are not so common and not into possession of...
Not saying I am an expert, I am learning as I go, but the mars aspects don't seem to have the same influence as the venus aspects.

Gann used Venus, Jupiter and Saturn for commodities.
He used Helio and Geocentric aspects.

He also used planetary cycles and distances. For instance the Dow bottom on march 2009 was a 180 degrees Jupiter shift from a previous bottom.

He also used planets moving into other zodiac signs. The Sun is a very reliable one, when it changes sign markets will move.

Anyway, that is why I choose venus. For short term I plot the mercury and moon channels. They are also very reliable.

And to the Uranus-Saturn aspect. If it were the only aspect that month I would say that it would be a long term turn, but this month is full of big aspects. I might just be watching the fireworks.
  • #2,078
  • Edited 10:53am Jul 16, 2010 10:41am | Edited 10:53am
Quoting Oshawa

If I may chime in - you might want to use such aspects as alert to some major turning point or significant movement.

It is recommended to use your own system of technical indicators to take trades and not on planetary movements alone.

The movements and positioning are good alerts as context, but you find entries based on your technical indicators or other trading system.
sounds sensible ..

of course ,like as all of us do glance at the horoscopes in newspapers once in a while for fun ... unless there is a proper paper that says the planets work on the charts ...
  • #2,079
  • Jul 16, 2010 10:50am Jul 16, 2010 10:50am
Quoting Ilovepippin

He also used planets moving into other zodiac signs. The Sun is a very reliable one, when it changes sign markets will move.

Anyway, that is why I choose venus. For short term I plot the mercury and moon channels. They are also very reliable.
my pet theory is that the monthly might seem to work because of the cycle of the pay day , pay cheque day ..... lots of money in the beginning , as time goes money is slowly drained ..less to invest .... and then cash-out when going gets tough ....and then it picks up again on the following month's pay-day and the cycle goes on and on ...
  • #2,080
  • Jul 16, 2010 11:06am Jul 16, 2010 11:06am
The market slided today as expected, though I expected a shot up first which did not come

Today: Mercury, Venus and Saturn are in the same segment, moon and Jupiter in the same segment.
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