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  • #1
  • First Post: May 25, 2010 11:04pm May 25, 2010 11:04pm
Hi
I was in the market over 7 years and I still losing money, I didn’t expect the market is so hard like this…I tried everything: learn everything on the internet, read books, buy courses….but none work for me , thousands of hours working hard but I still lose more than win ( I mean I make some but only enough for pay internet , electric bill, never enough for me to be a full time trader )
I spent thousands of dollars for buying course, coach fee…but they are all scammers, all their promise about making money constantly is lie
Just like someone said “Forex is like the California Gold Rush. Back then, people who sold shovels made more money than the ones who went out and dug for the gold. If you want to get rich quick, come up with a genius marketing plan and sell systems, indicators and EA's.”
People who truly make money in this market mostly is banks, brokers and scammers

I was in FF in several years and I see James is the most popular thread in FF , as he said he traded like 10 years, I read his thread carefully and I know he offer his service : course, coaching… that’s really interest me but yes but because I lose so much money for course and learn nothing, I mean all the things they teach is free on the internet you can google and find it easily like candlestick pattern, moving average, bollingerband…. The matter I want to learn is how they use it to make money constantly like they promised
So with all my respect for James , sir, can you show us your bank’s statement cover your 5 years trading??
I’m not a fisher so you can go some websites post your statement anonymously , no one know your account’s number , who you are, all I really only want to know is the proof you make money in 5 years trading like you said , it takes you less than 5 minute to post it, i promise

Sorry I do not mean rude or anything, I really respect you and FF team created a good place for us (trader) to learn, exchange idea…..

Thanks for your times , looking forward to be your student soon
  • #2
  • May 25, 2010 11:27pm May 25, 2010 11:27pm
If you truly have a question for James, why not post it in his thread? You mentioned his thread so you must know where it is.

As a commercial member he cannot respond outside of the commercial forum.
  • #3
  • May 25, 2010 11:33pm May 25, 2010 11:33pm
Quoting fx0000
Hi...
what a load of dribble.

you can't trade after 7 years so you ask people to show you a bank statement? James never promises anything last time checked. its up to you the individual to make it work. I will tell you something, it's not your knowlage that's letting you down it's your application. why don't you look at yourself and your emotions and study what makes you lose. I know it's not the system its you, your personality ATM.

I don't use James16 but I find your request ridicules. he's not a fund manger as far as I know so why would he need to prove his success if he gives all you need for free on FF.

Please remember not everyone makes it in this game. You have to find what's wrong with your trading and fix it. There's no set formula for success only your formula!

it may take you another 10 years to make or it may take 6 months. That's up to you to determine!
  • #4
  • May 25, 2010 11:50pm May 25, 2010 11:50pm
wtf as if he is gunna post his trade statement he doesnt have to prove himself to you. anyway even if james16 isnt profitable he has helped alot of ppl become profitable isnt that what counts? or is what you are really looking for is someone to hold your hand and tell you evrey trade to make?

regards damien
i pull the trigger when others are fearful---me
  • #5
  • May 26, 2010 6:59pm May 26, 2010 6:59pm
Quite often behind the "show me your trading statement" line is a rather unhelpful assumption - that being that behind the trading statement there is a "system" that can be copied to achieve success.. "If only I can find the right system, all my prayers will be answered.."

I am not an educator and never will be, but as an example of what I am talking about - if you looked at my trading statement you would see just around 56% winning trades and 44% loosing trades (pretty ordinary, huh?), but in the same breathe I would tell you that every "trade sequence" I take has around an 80% chance of success. I wonder what you would find if you looked at James' statement? Something pretty good I dare say, but that's not the point here.

Whether the above assumption is in play here or not, I obviously cannot say and also make no judgements about the poster of this thread, but new or struggling traders would be well advised to think very carefully about the assumptions that are built into their current trading efforts - questioning these assumptions, and finding the evidence/data to refute or prove them can lead to many fruitful "aha" moments and important lessons in the trading journey..

7 years of trading for the poster of this thread should provide a massive amount of "data" to work with.
  • #6
  • May 26, 2010 7:24pm May 26, 2010 7:24pm
the simple fact is stare at charts make your own system its what im doing at the moment analyzing every move high or low that is happening on 1 pair i choose 1 because if i can analyze 1pair perfectly thats all i need to profit isnt it? why watch hundreds if you dont know what your doing? start with one pair get to know its ins and outs until you can look at a chart and spot a move setting up before it happens if you cant do this dont go live. do you think the big boys looked at james16 chart thread and think im going to put my billion trillion account in the hands of a pin bar? no they spent years honing there skills watching others watching numbers till they had there own little way of spotting a move.

regards damien
i pull the trigger when others are fearful---me
  • #7
  • May 26, 2010 10:19pm May 26, 2010 10:19pm
hey fx i know the feeling.

i think we can help you our if you post your statement so we can see what you did wrong and give you some pointers!
  • #8
  • May 27, 2010 9:56am May 27, 2010 9:56am
really appreciate if anyone who is member of jame's group send this letter to him.....

waiting for his replying.......

Thanks
  • #9
  • May 27, 2010 10:48am May 27, 2010 10:48am
post your record and we can help you out i use the j16 stuff and it works, if u want help post your record so we can see some of the results
  • #10
  • May 27, 2010 10:53am May 27, 2010 10:53am
Quoting fx0000
really appreciate if anyone who is member of jame's group send this letter to him.....

waiting for his replying.......

Thanks
Send it to him yourself. Visit his site and contact him. Why don't you start by posting your account statements to prove you've been trading as long as you claim, or are you unwilling to do something that you're asking someone else to do?

You said in the beginning that you made enough to pay some of your bills, but not enough to be a full time trader. That implies you are trading profitably. If that's the case you are simply under capitalized. James' statement will not help you. If you do not trust him, how could you trust a statement he provides.

Making this request in a public forum, when you could do it in private via his website, makes it seem more like you are "calling him out".

Whatever happened to common sense?
  • #11
  • May 27, 2010 5:56pm May 27, 2010 5:56pm
i do not want post my Bank's statement since i dont want to see the lose money, it hurt me...... i want to forget it, and re new everything again, so that's why i am looking for a real one who made money in this market

a common sense: if you lose money do u want to show it to others? i'm sure you do not want right?
  • #12
  • May 27, 2010 5:58pm May 27, 2010 5:58pm
i am a real one, show me i will tell you what to do. i am a student of j16 and i know what it takes to make it.

show me your record and i will help you.
  • #13
  • May 27, 2010 6:38pm May 27, 2010 6:38pm
i quit trading live 6 months ago due to the constantly lose , so i dont want to talk any more about it

let's talk about future man, future is i really want to see proof, then i could join the group ......

if you can do anything for me , please send this letter to james
  • #14
  • May 27, 2010 7:40pm May 27, 2010 7:40pm
being this hard headed is not a good characteristic!

you can start with that.
  • #15
  • May 27, 2010 10:41pm May 27, 2010 10:41pm
Quoting fx0000
i quit trading live 6 months ago due to the constantly lose , so i dont want to talk any more about it
.... please send this letter to james

u are whining here, but u dont want to talk about it further??!
& why dont u just send the letter to James yourself?


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I was in the market over 7 years and I still losing money, I didn’t expect the market is so hard like this…I tried everything
U tried everything?!
if u tried every thing, it's either u should be profitable by now/doing fine OR u decided to quit because trading is simply not for u.

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..So with all my respect for James , sir, can you show us your bank’s statement cover your 5 years trading??
.. all I really only want to know is the proof you make money in 5 years trading like you said , it takes you less than 5 minute to post it..
if he shows u his bank statement/a proof he's profitable, will that make YOU profitable?
it will take u only 1 minute to send him an email yourself (unless u've got slow fingers)

Quoting fx0000
i quit trading live,.... future is i really want to see proof, then i could join the group ......
.
no one is compelling u to join any group. it is your prerogative.


whiners......oh my gulay
  • #16
  • May 27, 2010 10:53pm May 27, 2010 10:53pm
Quoting fx0000
i quit trading live 6 months ago due to the constantly lose , so i dont want to talk any more about it

let's talk about future man, future is i really want to see proof, then i could join the group ......

if you can do anything for me , please send this letter to james
Let me give you some straight up advice. Throw in the towel while you can. What your asking for is a free ride, someone to tell you what you need to do to be successful. After 7 years if you havent got any clue as to what it is your doing wrong then I am sorry having got much chance of succeeding in the future.

The reality is that a great deal of people who have more passion and determination, who are PRO-ACTIVE and do things for themselves, the ones who do the hard yards first and learn will 'Fail' simply because it is not a field where learning everything is going to make you successful.

So far you have done nothing here to show a Pro Active side which is why the level of replies you are getting are negative, mine included and I make no apologies for it. It is not difficult to send someone an email, HOWEVER if you sent me an email asking for proof of my success via bank statements the chances are that I would send it to the recycle bin because I have better things to do.
  • #17
  • May 27, 2010 10:57pm May 27, 2010 10:57pm
Quoting fx0000
i quit trading live 6 months ago due to the constantly lose , so i dont want to talk any more about it

let's talk about future man, future is i really want to see proof, then i could join the group ......

if you can do anything for me , please send this letter to james
If you have a question for James16, here is the place to ask it: http://www.james16group.us/Guests/guestcontact.php It is the contact address from his commercial site--the one you are so anxious to join.

If you are sincere, you'll ask him in the proper place, not here. Considering you couldn't figure this out on your own and continue to beg for someone else to forward your own request, you may lack the fortitude and inventiveness required to become a trader.

Also, when considering the reputation of the instructors at the James16 site, if you feel you can't afford a single month's membership to find out for yourself then attempting to trade Forex may not be a wise financial move for you. There are bigger lumps to take than a single month's membership fee.
  • #18
  • Edited 11:32pm May 27, 2010 11:19pm | Edited 11:32pm
Quoting fx0000
i quit trading live 6 months ago due to the constantly lose , so i dont want to talk any more about it

let's talk about future man, future is i really want to see proof, then i could join the group ......
You dont want to talk about why you are a loser? Ever think that maybe if you analyzed your bad trades you could learn from your mistakes? That is what a lot of us have done but you seem so unwilling. I also find it rather hilarious that you expect someone else to post their statement but you have all sorts of excuses as to why you shouldnt/wont/cant post yours. It is also quite interesting that you have been working on this for 7 years yet you just registered... not saying that every forex trader needs to register here but after 7 years I figured you would have wandered past a few times, I mean, this forum is kind of a big deal...

You know a lot of professional sports players review their work. If they screw up they find out why and what they can do to prevent it in the future. Same with military, police, firemen....

I think everyone else is right, if you arent willing to put in the work, not only in trading but the work you need to do on yourself, you may as well hang up the towel and hit the showers. You wont make it in this industry... and crying like a baby will get you no sympathy around here...


[Edit] On second thought, maybe math is your problem.

Quoting fx0000
I was in the market over 7 years and I still losing money,
Quoting fx0000
been trading in 5 years, and this is my advice for you,
So which is it, 5 years, 7 years, or maybe more like 3 weeks?
  • #19
  • May 27, 2010 11:35pm May 27, 2010 11:35pm
reading from your post, I think i understand why you ask for...

based on your bad past experiences, you may have accumulated a lot of hate/non-trust/skeptical to all sort of offers as scams...and see from your logos...I think it is ok for skeptism but for asking someone bank proof from public forum is not wise also..

main thing is you want some real proof, is it right??

If I may help you. P.M me..
  • #20
  • May 28, 2010 12:01am May 28, 2010 12:01am
i asked him , he ignored it, so what i must say as long as i don't see his bank's statement, then he is just me , completely loser , nothing to show

and you know : if is okay if you do not offer service then you don't care about showing statement but if you do business, you show your evidences then your reputation will gain , i and many skeptics will join your group .... so what? show your statement only good for you , for your business unless you are loser want to hide the lost lol
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