A trader does not have to lose before you make profit in the Forex market

this guy is starting to remind me of that "Scientist" dude who had the oil code cracked. HAHAHA

these guys just don't stop.

Or its prob the same guy!!!

+1

This probably belongs in the commercial section, there's obviously some commercial motive for starting a thread like this.


"...only stated that I have cracked the code. I will definitely not start explaining how it is cracked here....I never stated how the combinations are done....Trying to guess how it is done is going to be a fruitless effort. Nobody can figure it out....I will definitely not state how they are combined....I have been asked privately by some FF forum member if I want to sell the system, and my answer was simply "I don't know yet". I may tilt towards that direction."


Pah, more snakeoil, as if we haven't got enough already!

I agree... though "maybe" that wasn't his initial aim.

@ The Helper

The point is: this is the Rookie Discussion.

Who is a Rookie? Someone who is just starting and has no clue, and needs to learn the steps and ask questions and be replied to in a comprehensible manner, if not even taught the basics.

Although trading is somewhat under "the Law of the Jungle" (eat or be eaten, etc...) this forum goes way beyond that: it is a community of real people who happen to be working in the same field, maybe not so much "one against the other" but more "all united "against" the brokers and Big Boys" (under my point of view), as we retail traders are but disposable dust in the vast currency pool.

In that sense all that detailed and interesting explanation about the brokers' arbitrage fit in this section very well. However (and giving you the benefit of the doubt because of your alleged non-English mother language) what I strongly disagree with is the "tricky" presentation or enticing with an enthusiastic "I've cracked the code", which by the way sounded sooo similar indeed to that oil guy (search in the recycle bin for Oil Academy's posts) and then start a long winded digression about arbitrage which explains nothing about how you determine your trades while you keep "announcing" and speaking of "the CODE" in extremely cryptic ways, then you start giving signals (this would definitely correspond better in the Trading Journals section) and finally you tell us that "as you have been asked" you "might eventually" consider going commercial with your system or "code" (and this definitely belongs to the commercial section!).

Let's give you, as I said, the benefit of the doubt because of language issues and also some respect because you have contributed some interesting information and you have taken imperturbably all the negative comments. In fact you have acted as the extreme opposite of the oily character above mentioned (this also can be suspicious). I apologize for having tried to "push your buttons" (and if you are that guy, congrats for the shielding... but truth always comes out sooner or later).

You happened to open your thread at a moment where we had been seeing a flood of "rookie phishers" with secret cracked codes, private chats (which you mentioned in your two first posts) and websites and whatnots.

So: make up your mind and decide why are you writing this thread.

If you want to teach and help the rookies get a better understanding of this industry, go on and remain in this section.

If you intend to promote a future selling of your magnificent and cracked "code", you are violating rule number 3 (see "User Guide" link at the bottom of the page). You should instead ask Twee to move you to the Commercial Section, with whatever compliance requirements should this incur.

If you want to share your trades you should move to the Trading Journals section which is more appropriate.

You can do both 1 and 3 if you wish. But (in my opinion) not together and mixed as it can lead to confusion for new and un-experienced traders, besides if the intent of this section is to provide a learning environment so they can progress and evolve in this profession, ask beginner questions that will not be disregarded, and overall share their own experiences, the worse thing that can be done is just throw a random trading signal which they will follow without a clue thus not learning to be on their own and develop their own trading strategies.

You can do any of the three mixed IN THE COMMERCIAL SECTION.
NOT in the Rookie Discussion.

Make up your mind and see what is better for everyone.

Anybody who makes statements like "i have cracked the forex code" and
"i am the only one who can do it and everyone else should not even try",

IS A FRAUD!!!!

what this dude wants to do is make a few calls and get some credibility and then the sales pitch starts.

anybody who is new to the game will be impressed by a few calls, consistency on the other hand is a whole different ball game.

Hi all

I have taken some time to read through all posts in the thread and to reflect on the effect this had had on individual contributors at large. I never thought of anything commercial outrightly for FF members because I thought I could gain something here too even after years of experience in this market, but as soon as it was mentioned by somebody in this community, it occured to me too that I may also go that road. I have already sent a message through a cleanup report button to supposedly the moderators asking gthem to move the thread to the commercial section. I have never been on any forex forum in my entire life because if I had nothing to give, I didnt see what I will be doing there (my own belief pls). Now, if anyone has felt offended due to my ignorance, please, forgive me. As fro my trades, I will explore the commercial section, and will still be posting my trades there if it is possible considering thhe terms and conditions of using the section. I am not too bothered even if I am suspended due to this ignorance and sombedy suggested, but, if it happens, I believe the moderators will consider re-instatement. I continue trading. Consistency in profitability: somebody may have to approach a "see before you believe approach".

I do not know anything about any oil guy and I am sure I will not have time to start reading any thread about him. Everybody in life should be bold enough to take responsibility for his/her action, and I full take responsibility for my own ignorance. May be I should have read the T&C very well before starting the thread. I actually started it in another forum. but was definitely moved by the FF team to another forum.

Thank you all traders. Thank you FF. God bless you all.

I pray that everyone will continue to make profitable trades.

People like you shouldn't be moved to the commercial section... you should be banned for opening the thread in a section where newbies expect sharing without strings. I'm disappointed by the mods; everyone knows what to do if they wish to sell something, and if they don't follow proper protocol from the start they shouldn't be offered the opportunity to become a commercial member. The forum is allowing 'wanna-be' sales men to take liberties and disrespect the rules without consiquence... I think this is a silly mistake.

OMG. I wish people would save the drama, violins, victimized rambling and praying for us.
No one buys it.

Dear Magnumfreak,

I have dwonloaded your pivot 4x indicator.

Not sure how to use, what the lines mean etc.

Wonder if you can help?

P

Isee you have the guts to show your trade and pips made, and good for you for taking so much flack. some times I see the same old names onthe threads all the time . do they ever do any trading.I am trying to be postive so keep writing in because I am interested in this code , As said before , we will get to it some time.

Hi all. Since I have been moved to the commercial section of the forum, I will be starting a new thread that simply states our trading strategies, and publishes our trading results on daily basis.

The thread will simply be called TRADING STRATEGY THAT BRINGS PROFIT. It will be under the commercial forum.

Thanks

Hope you get made someones b**ch next time you use the public toilets.

Good luck.

Technically, you can't post here anymore (the public threads) as you're marked as a "Commercial Member". The purpose of marking you as a commercial member as to warn us public members you're likely to sell us something.

Tis tis, shame on you

*** btw, I see this thread has moved Under Evaluation in the Commercial Forum. Now you can continue to sell your product and services in this thread ***

Thanks Twee.

I agree with Leon that people like this should be banned outright - because, as anyone can clearly see, there is a commercial agenda here from the outset. Sending them to the leper colony is a reasonable compromise, I guess.
At least over there everyone is forewarned about who they're dealing with.

Also... I think it is wrong for, for example, J16 and people such as 'The Helper' to be branded with the same 'commercial member' tag. I think either: a) a further warning should be attached to new commercial members, or; b) Trusted long-term members such as J16 should be elevated above them with a 'Verified' tag or something of the sort.

Alternatively... do away with the commercial section! It's causing more trouble than it's worth! Or maybe it isn't? Is the traffic the site receives from these scammers substantial enough to increase how much your partners pay for advertising?

I am just wondering the main reason this is generating so much fuss. It seems people have so much time on this forum. If FF has any problem with me or my organisation, I think they are in the best position to decide or at least they should form part of the decision thread.

If any thread has I posted has caused any misunderstanding, I am humble enough to apologise. I challenge everyone here to please spend their times on more important stuffs that are more productive.

There is no scam, there has never been any, and there will be no scam of any kind. If anyone is not happey with anything, please, you are free to say it, but I do not think it is proper to be using so much time and space flogging matters that are trivial. More so, we have a service that returns money to subscribers if they are not happy. So, what is the fuss about?

Rgds

@ the 'helper' - You know, and I know, that you wouldn't be here if you could really make any kind of consistent profit. To be honest, I don't even care about the newbs that much myself... but I care about making sure you don't make any easy money from them and this forum.

@Everyone who reads this post... Would you be suspicious if a man walked up to you in the street and said "hey... I wana give you some money"? Every signal provider or system sales man you encounter is doing basically the same thing. Think about it.

PS. The members of this forum state their problems so that the mods know they exist and then can hopefully act on them.

You come on to a public forum that prohibits commercial promotion with a commercial service. That's the problem.

Not planned out from the start? Give me a break.

Yes, we have enough time on our hands to help root out sellers of services from the forum and will continue to do so.

You and your kind are not welcome here.

Hey Helper,

The reason you are being received with such suspicion is that you are making big claims without any history of results. You made a few calls, so what, that does not equate to trading success!

You can call yourself a success after a year + of profitable trading.

After that you have the right to advertise a paid trading room!

Don't come here and post a bunch of hype and expect respect!

If u first established yourself on this forum and then decided to advertise your chart room that would be great!

BUT NOT THE WAY YOU ARE DOING IT!

Ok. Thanks.

I will continue to post our trades real time, and if the mods have problems with that, then, so be it.

I do not have to showcase our company's results. It is up to whoever chooses to follow any call to decide whether he wants or not. See it for yourself. You are free to follow calls too, and see whether we make profits or not. At the end of it, everyone is responsible for his actions.

Nice forum anyway, and may be, nice members too.