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Eclayf Is this right?!?!

  • #1
  • First Post: Edited May 16, 2010 3:36am May 15, 2010 3:21pm | Edited May 16, 2010 3:36am
I need to say sorry to a few people because i really didnt think Eclayf AKA Clay Ferrell was a scammer but guess what i think he is after getting this email from him.

Here is an email that i have just got in my mail box PLEASE NO ONE TRUST HIM!!!

"I'm in some kind of deep mess right now,i came down here to London,England for a short vacation to visit a resort and got mugged at gun point last night at the park of the hotel where i lodged.All cash,credit cards and cell were stolen off me.I've been to the U.S embassy and the Police here but they're not helping issues at all,my flight leaves today and I'm having problems settling the hotel bills.

The hotel manager won't let me leave until i settle the hotel bills(1,550pounds) now am freaked out.Please reply and let me if can you have the money wire to me through western union i promise to pay back as soon as i get back home.

Thanks

Clay"


Deusomega and >Apocalypto< were right and now i feel like such a tit and i am sure a lot of other people will. I have sent a mass mail to my users to let them know what has happened. I know you think that i am working with him but could you please post in the dance and your thread about what has just happened and post the message that he sent me. He is banned from my site so he can't contact anyone on there.

Your help would be greatful

Cheers

Phil
  • #2
  • Edited May 16, 2010 12:51am May 15, 2010 6:19pm | Edited May 16, 2010 12:51am
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=146

what a joke i have tried to help you and how can i be eclayf do you want me to post my driving licence? I have tried to help and say sorry for not taking your first warning about eclayf.

Since i am now a commercial member why should i not ask for a fee. I will be posting my system on here once i have got this crap sorted and cleared my name. Here is a screen shot of the email and my reply.

Tell me what you want me to do to prove that i have nothing to do with this crap because its really pissing me off now. I have done nothing wrong but i am getting blamed and labelled something that i am not
  • #3
  • May 15, 2010 7:16pm May 15, 2010 7:16pm
Quoting Juneman
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=146

what a joke i have tried to help you and how can i be eclayf do you want me to post my driving licence? I have tried to help and say sorry for not taking your first warning about eclayf.

Since i am now a commercial member why should i not ask for a fee. I will be posting my system on here once i have got this crap sorted and cleared my name. Here is a screen shot of the email and my reply.

Tell me what you want me to do to prove that i have nothing to do with this...
Yeah I wouldn't post his email on a public forum. At least from a legal standpoint I wouldn't advise it.
  • #4
  • May 15, 2010 7:21pm May 15, 2010 7:21pm
Quoting Juneman
Here is an email that i have just got in my mail box...
Much ado about not much as far as that particular email is concerned imo. This guy may or may not be a scammer for other reasons but that email sure don't make him one.

At least two people I know personally have recently had their yahoo accounts hacked with nearly indentical emails sent out to everyone in their address book including me. They were also immediately locked out of their own accounts and were unable to access them or stop the scam from going out until I personally received what I knew to be a bogus email and alerted them. They had unfortunately replied to very skillfully crafted but BOGUS phishing alert emails to confirm personal login details supposedly from Yahoo security and then it was Game Over for those accounts.

I personally traced the original senders to various nigerian locations and corresponded with them using alt email adresses, and worked with Yahoo security to restore and/or create new email acounts (these were elderly widows who aren't very PC literate...)

So long story short... looks like you're being scammed alright but regarding this email I doubt it's by this eclayf guy you have the other beef with. Apparently you both have problems now...

And on another note... I noticed you posted a screenshot of YOUR reply to him with YOUR email address on it as well....

Unless you're a glutton for punishment, I'd fix that Soonest...

PS IF you have other emails from this guy previous to this one, comparing the Full Headers should tell the tale pretty quick...
FUBAR...
  • #5
  • May 15, 2010 7:29pm May 15, 2010 7:29pm
http://www.daniweb.com/news/story231517.html

I recieved this email too. This is a common phishing attack, I seriously doubt this actually came from Eclayf.
  • #6
  • May 15, 2010 7:33pm May 15, 2010 7:33pm
Quoting ak4x
Much ado about not much as far as that particular email is concerned imo. This guy may or may not be a scammer for other reasons but that email sure don't make him one.

At least two people I know personally have recently had their yahoo accounts hacked with nearly indentical emails sent out to everyone in their address book including me. They were also immediately locked out of their own accounts and were unable to access them or stop the scam from going out until I personally received what I knew to be a bogus email and alerted them. They had...
Good call...

http://its.ucsc.edu/security_awareness/news.php#scam

Exact replica.

"
Email Scam Alert - April 29, 2010
Please be advised of a FAKE email appearing to be from Frank Zwart requesting urgent financial assistance. Do not reply to the email and do not wire money. Just delete the message.
The text of this email scam reads as follows:
*****************

Subject: Help!!
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 06:53:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Frank Zwart <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: undisclosed recipients: ;
I'm in some kind of deep mess right now,i came down here to London,England for a short vacation to visit a resort and got mugged at gun point last night at the park of the hotel where i lodged.All cash,credit cards and cell were stolen off me.I've been to the U.S embassy and the Police here but they're not helping issues at all,my flight leaves today and I'm having problems settling the hotel bills.
The hotel manager won't let me leave until i settle the hotel bills(1,550pounds) now am freaked out.Please reply and let me if can you have the money wire to me through western union i promise to pay back as soon as i get back home.
Thanks
Frank

  • #7
  • Edited 2:06am May 16, 2010 12:57am | Edited 2:06am
I just woke up this morning and got another message from clay plus the message on the forum. Now i feel bad for Clay

I apologize, someone somehow got into my account and changed my password and then mailed out a lie. DO NOT SEND ANYONE ANY MONEY.

I'll try to email you agiain later today as I have a tons of these to send out.

PLEASE forgive the error as Yahoo cannot tell me how anyone got into my account

Again, DO NOT send ANY money to ANYONE.

I will be changing my email account very soon and sending new contact details then.

God bless,
Clay


I don't know what to do and i have started this thread and blocked him from my site. This is just crazy, i only posted the email cos you said i was lying now you are saying its against the law.

I just read your other thread and you are now saying that i am Eclayf. How can i be Clay when i live in Scotland?? Clay or Keith brown are from the US i couldnt be any further away.


Domain name:
fxinvestor.co.uk

Registrant:
Philip Hand

Registrant type:
UK Individual OMG I MUST BE CLAY I DON'T LIVE IN THE UK LOOK IT SAYS IT IN BLACK AND WHITE

Registrant's address:
The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their
address omitted from the WHOIS service.

http://whois.domaintools.com/fxinvestor.co.uk
  • #8
  • May 16, 2010 1:11am May 16, 2010 1:11am
Here is another website i own

Domain name:
gooy.co.uk

Registrant:
philip hand

Registrant type:
UK Individual

Registrant's address:
The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their
address omitted from the WHOIS service.

Registrar:
Fasthosts Internet Ltd [Tag = FASTHOSTS]
URL: http://www.fasthosts.co.uk

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 11-Jun-2009
Renewal date: 11-Jun-2011
Last updated: 26-Aug-2009

Registration status:
Registered until renewal date.
  • #9
  • May 16, 2010 1:38am May 16, 2010 1:38am
Deusomega


"Haha I'm having a good ole laugh about all of it. I knew Juneman had commercial intent because he said he believed the dance thing could become another James16 group. So it would make sense he would try to throw Eclayf under the bus to salvage what reputation he has left. OR CONSPIRACY THEORY TIME

Is Juneman really Eclayf and now Eclayf has his name tarnished and now he is using the Juneman tag to throw his other tag under the bus to make his Juneman tag look like a legit and helpful guy thereby salvaging something out of the whole fiasco.

its like a soap opera *eats popcorn*"


Its great to see you having such a good time, I find it funny that you are such a Dick and you don't even know where FIFE is or even what UK Individual means but i guess we can't all be as great as you.


Also i think its about time that Twee stopped hiding and answered my emails because this is now getting out of hand. I like that everyone else can post what they like but i guess i will get banned for calling Deusomega a dick and Twee a crap administrator. As soon as i heard of this trouble with Eclayf i took the information down from my website and posted a warning on the live chat. Also the website was free and i was happy for it to say that way. BUT LIKE I SAID IN MY LAST POST NOW I AM A COMMERCIAL MEMBER I MIGHT AS WELL CHARGE OMG £5 IS SO MUCH MONEY PLUS THE USER GETS 7 DAYS FREE SHIT I AM SCAMMING THE CRAP OUT OF THEM.


If this rubbish ever stops i will post my system and it would be good to get back to normal i will take the charge off the website and it will be back to being free to use.



I have already offered to give any proof to clear my name and my websites name because now you lot are losing me business ( Since i am a commerical member). all Twee needs to do is answer or reply to my emails or even post on here.
  • #10
  • May 16, 2010 1:42am May 16, 2010 1:42am
Not a bad Idea...

I can start sending mail my sonikers and asking for money... risk is zero, reward can be gr8..

Sonic
  • #11
  • May 16, 2010 1:53am May 16, 2010 1:53am
Quoting Juneman
I just woke up this morning and got another message from clay plus the message on the forum. Now i feel bad for Clay

---snip---

I don't know what to do and i have started this tread and blocked him from my site.
Given the recent paranoia on this subject, I think you just reacted as human.

Now, and even if you're presently a "commercial member" I don't think you'll want to start your business venture on this unfortunate (and awfully bad timed) quid pro quo. So, if I were you, I would ask Twee to eventually send this thread to the Recycle Bin. Then it'll be up to you to apologize and unblock or not, in regard to that person.

Any other and further speculations will only keep fueling a distrustful ambiance overall, which can hinder everyone's spirit and therefore, potential performance.

Calm down and chalk it out but... keep your eyes open, everyone.
  • #12
  • May 16, 2010 2:06am May 16, 2010 2:06am
Quoting doblece
Given the recent paranoia on this subject, I think you just reacted as human.

Now, and even if you're presently a "commercial member" I don't think you'll want to start your business venture on this unfortunate (and awfully bad timed) quid pro quo. So, if I were you, I would ask Twee to eventually send this thread to the Recycle Bin. Then it'll be up to you to apologize and unblock or not, in regard to that person.

Any other and further speculations will only keep fueling a distrustful ambiance overall, which can hinder everyone's spirit and...
I have tried to contact Twee 3 times already with no contact back so far and i am more than happy for this thread to be binned. I just want to clear my name change my website back to being free and share my system.
  • #13
  • Edited 7:38am May 16, 2010 7:22am | Edited 7:38am
Quoting Juneman
I have tried to contact Twee 3 times already with no contact back so far and i am more than happy for this thread to be binned. I just want to clear my name change my website back to being free and share my system.
Juneman,
I got the same Nigerian-sound email too. I don't think Clay is stupid enough to send identical emails to people that have contact between them (like me and you). So it's sounds like Clay got his account hacked.

Kostas

P.S. It seems ak4x is right. In this particular email my email address doesn't appear in the header "To:" whereas it appeared on all previous communications I had with Clay. Common feature of mass spam mailings....
  • #14
  • May 16, 2010 7:55am May 16, 2010 7:55am
Quoting kostas1
Juneman,
I got the same Nigerian-sound email too. I don't think Clay is stupid enough to send identical emails to people that have contact between them (like me and you). So it's sounds like Clay got his account hacked.

Kostas

P.S. It seems ak4x is right. In this particular email my email address doesn't appear in the header "To:" whereas it appeared on all previous communications I had with Clay. Common feature of mass spam mailings....
Yeah cheers bud it freaked me out a little when i got it lol
  • #15
  • May 16, 2010 10:37am May 16, 2010 10:37am
Quoting Juneman
Also i think its about time that Twee stopped hiding and answered my emails because this is now getting out of hand. I like that everyone else can post what they like but i guess i will get banned for calling Deusomega a dick and Twee a crap administrator.

I have already offered to give any proof to clear my name and my websites name because now you lot are losing me business ( Since i am a commerical member). all Twee needs to do is answer or reply to my emails...
Has it ever occurred to you that Twee may not be "hiding", but, instead, he may not be at work 24/7. Or that he has other tasks assigned by the owners and has to prioritize? Just sayin'.
  • #16
  • May 16, 2010 11:02am May 16, 2010 11:02am
Quoting billflet
Has it ever occurred to you that Twee may not be "hiding", but, instead, he may not be at work 24/7. Or that he has other tasks assigned by the owners and has to prioritize? Just sayin'.
Well i have had time to calm down now so yes you are right but still its been a week. I just feel its a little unfair the fact that i have done nothing wrong but still people find it funny to cause trouble for no reason.I would just like Twee to deal with it.

We have a new week coming and money to make ( Not scam money ) lets see what the week brings
  • #17
  • May 16, 2010 3:18pm May 16, 2010 3:18pm
Quoting Juneman
Deusomega


"Haha I'm having a good ole laugh about all of it. I knew Juneman had commercial intent because he said he believed the dance thing could become another James16 group. So it would make sense he would try to throw Eclayf under the bus to salvage what reputation he has left. OR CONSPIRACY THEORY TIME

Is Juneman really Eclayf and now Eclayf has his name tarnished and now he is using the Juneman tag to throw his other tag under the bus to make his Juneman tag look like...
I wasn't laughing at being able to cause trouble. I was kindve chuckling at the sheer outrageousness of it all. Eclayf gets banned and you are made a commercial member. Eclayf suddenly has his email hacked and send out phony emails. And you acting like a victim.

I guarantee you had a commercial intent from the very beginning and so you got exactly what you deserved by being made a commercial member. There is no reason to make another website for people to discuss the dance when this website is perfectly good for doing it on. And even Eclayf said chat and stuff was mostly a distraction and that all you needed was screen time with the strategy. And now suddenly your website has the dance removed and replaced with the v4 system or whatever.

So no I don't feel like a dick at all. You got exactly what you deserved. So good luck to your commercial venture and have a nice day.
  • #18
  • Last Post: May 16, 2010 3:31pm May 16, 2010 3:31pm
Quoting Deusomega
I wasn't laughing at being able to cause trouble. I was kindve chuckling at the sheer outrageousness of it all. Eclayf gets banned and you are made a commercial member. Eclayf suddenly has his email hacked and send out phony emails. And you acting like a victim.

I guarantee you had a commercial intent from the very beginning and so you got exactly what you deserved by being made a commercial member. There is no reason to make another website for people to discuss the dance when this website is perfectly good for doing it on. And even Eclayf said...

Cheers mate and i am sorry for calling you a dick.
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