Planetary Cycles Trading (EUR/USD)

I’ve also been looking through the Aspectarian “Help”. The 2 sections that are highlighted below might be worth mentioning. If you’re using natal dates in the 1700s, you should download the ephemeris files for those years. Here’s an old post that describes how to do it:

http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=899

The other highlighted section describes the second (indented) line of the aspect description. The “speed” refers to how many degrees the planet moves in 24 hours. The “==> days” tells you how many days (or sometimes hours) it takes to move one full degree. You can use this info along with the GMT “aspect exact” time in the first line, to time the aspects using an orb. One degree from exact might be a good starting place.

Also discovered you can edit the Help file. All you really need to do is make the changes right there in that window, then press “Save help file” and tell it to overwrite the existing version. Any notes or hints you want to keep can be saved in it. You can also delete the Help stuff you don’t need (like for progressions).

There aren't any specific aspects I follow. I don't use astro at all the way you guys do. Although, there was a time I had worked out quite bit of stuff heliocentric that seemed to stick.

What I prefer to do is see what was going astro wise at a significant high/low. Then only focus on the relationships that were going on at the time. For example, planet A was square to planets B and C at a market high. I then project to see the next times those 3 planets form any sort of relation.

Planetary speed is something else I consider. I might not put much weight in Mercury doing something by itself unless it's relating to 2 or more bodies or coinciding with other bodies doing something in which case Mercury becomes the trigger to watch.

Another thing I’ve been doing lately is getting to understand the “Within 1 deg. of exact” list of aspects. Just in case it helps someone else, I’ll go over it here. In this snapshot I’ve highlighted them in yellow. I used this currency simply because it shows a good assortment of different aspects.

What makes these aspects different from the ones listed above them in “Aspects found”, is that they never reach exact during the date range I’m using. They may have reached exact (whether it’s a conjunction, opposition, or whatever) before this date range, or they might not reach it until after the date range specified. By looking closely at the lines, you can often tell which it is. I’m using a range of Apr 5 – Apr 9 in this example (see the upper left hand corner of Aspectarian).

The first aspect listed in “Within 1 deg. of exact” shows a through date of 04/09/2010 – 04/09/2010. So you can deduce from this that the aspect is “applying”. For the first 4 days of the week it is greater than 1 degree from exact, but closing in. Then it gets within 1 degree by Apr 9. If it becomes exact sometime next week, it will be included in the “Aspects found” section when I run it for that date range, instead of the “Within 1 deg. of exact” section.

The second aspect shows 04/05/2010 – 04/07/2010. It is within 1 degree of exact at the beginning of the week, but moves to a point that is greater than 1 degree by mid-week. From this you can deduce that the aspect is separating. If the date range you were running Aspectarian for had an earlier start date (perhaps Apr 1) this aspect would have been listed in “Aspects found” because it was exact during that time period.

The third aspect shows 04/05/2010 – 04/06/2010. Here again we have an aspect that is separating, and becomes greater than 1 degree from exact early on (in this case Apr 6). It probably reached exact earlier in the month. If a person needed to know when it was exact, they could run Aspectarian again with an earlier date so it showed up in the “Aspects found” section.

The fourth aspect shows 04/05/2010 – 04/09/2010. Here we have an aspect that is within 1 degree of exact during the entire date range you’re running Aspectarian for. In this situation you don’t know whether the aspect is applying (the 2 planets getting closer) or separating (the 2 planets getting farther away). You’d need a larger date range to determine this with Aspectarian. But an alternative way of figuring it out, if you wanted, would be to look at the aspect with different software.

I’ve also highlighted one of the aspects from the “Aspects found” section in green. The upper right hand corner of this aspect shows the date and time (in GMT) that the aspect becomes exact. In this case it’s Apr 7 at 9:24AM GMT. If you want to deduce when it comes within 1 degree of exact, you can look at the second line of the aspect (the indented one), on the far right hand side. It shows 2.02 hours. So you would need to subtract 2.02 (or simply 2) hours from 9:24AM to determine the time it is within 1 degree of exact. In other words 7:24AM. If you wanted to know when it separates by 1 full degree, you'd add 2 to 9:24AM, which gives you 11:24AM. So this aspect is within 1 degree of exact and applying at 7:24AM, reaches exact at 9:24AM, and separates by 1 full degree of exact by 11:24AM. Lunar aspects always take about 2 hours to move 1 degree, by the way, so you can use that as a quick “rule of thumb”. Non-lunar aspects usually take a day or more to move 1 degree, so you determine the 1 degree orb by subtracting and adding days instead of hours. With the Sun you can simply use 1 as a rule of thumb. But it gets more complicated with the others, which can vary quite a bit.

Just for fun, here are the Sun / Moon combinations for some of the major currencies, along with interpretations of those combinations if they were people instead. Here’s a link to where they come from:

http://www.astrology-numerology.com/sun-moon.html

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AUD – Sun Aquarius, Moon Sagittarius

The combination of your Sun and Moon signs produce an individual who is very active, both physically and mentally. Independence of mind and action, thought and expression, are the keynotes of your nature. This pairing combines the friendliness, originality and independence of Aquarius, with the honesty, sincerity, directness and enthusiasm of Sagittarius. Your personality is friendly and active, expressing independence and freedom in your thinking and in your abilities to see ideas through to completion. A friendly and a very understanding nature tends to place you firmly on the humanitarian side on most issues, and you are likely to busy yourself doing something that in some way directly benefits your fellow man. There is an instinctive and deep-rooted love of truth and knowledge that endows you with a noble and sincere nature. You intensely dislike any sham or deception, and you play the game of life and business by the rules. You never are willing to in any situation to compromise your principles. You admire honesty and straightforward people, and you hold more to individuals possessing these traits, regardless of their station in life. You have a common sense approach to life; although you are put off by intellectualism, you love to philosophize and dream. Actually, you have the qualities of an uncompromising intellectual; honesty, strong opinions, and a broad viewpoint on world affairs. You are impulsively quick to act on your ideas, advanced and revolutionary as they may sometimes be. You believe in getting things done, and done in shortest possible time, employing the most innovative methods you can devise.

CHF – Sun Taurus, Moon Pisces

The combination of your Sun sign and your Moon sign produces much creativity and imagination, but at the same time it creates a somewhat private dream life that may not have a firm grip on reality. Taurus gives you a restful or stable internal nature, but the Moon gives a rather changeable personality. Despite a need and desire for sympathy and affection, you may isolate yourself from others and maintain strong powers of restraint in relating your feelings. You are highly sensitive to emotional matters, impressionable to love and flattery. You are somewhat susceptible to being imposed upon by friends and associates. Insights to people are continuous being formed and evaluated and the conclusions formed are generally accurate. It is important that you exercise discrimination in selecting your friends. The passive inclinations in your nature makes you inclined to attract imposition by others playing on your good nature and kind disposition. You take life seriously, but view things that are going on around you as though you were not part of the picture, and it is somewhat easy for you to lose sight of reality. You can be extremely amiable when you permit yourself to respond to people in a spontaneous and natural manner. Because of this, you are a natural for romance that is always strong in your nature. You have a stubborn streak that can be a protective device and helpful, if you don't let it become too powerful in your personality. A tendency toward overindulgence can cause you some problems at times; too much worry, food, sex, pleasure-seeking. Avoid brooding and feeling sorry for yourself. You do much better when you open up to people and keep yourself on a positive track.

EUR – Sun Capricorn, Moon Gemini

The combination of your Sun sign and your Moon sign produces a very mentally ambitious personality. You are likely to be very studious and interested in developing your talent for self-expression in respect to writing or public speaking. A lot of mental curiosity keeps you alert to new ideas and simulates your interest in learning. The Gemini Moon makes you flexible, versatile, and adaptable. This shows up mostly in your mental quickness; you are such a fast learner, swiftly assimilating impressions and ideas and making quick decisions. Your variable nature is also shown by the number of times you change your mind, your opinions, and your ideas. You are always so clever, never at a loss for words and this is the talent you can really build a reputation on. A good planner and organizer, you have much personal ingenuity and inventiveness producing a constant stream of new ideas and methods. Your talent in all forms of self-expression may guide you to some type of work that involves writing, or in the field of advertising. With you outwardly glib, witty and clever personality, it's surprising that you are really rather serious, practical and ambitious. In fact, at times, you worry a bit too much and allow anxieties to assume an undue proportion. Then you can be volatile and buoyant and act as though you didn't have a care in the world. Emotionally, you are a puzzle to yourself and certainly to those around you; inwardly sound, reliable, and practical, outwardly, changeable and contradictory.

GBP – Sun Aries, Moon Leo

The combination of your Sun sign and your Moon sign produces a personality that blends the Aries drive for success with the warmth, nobility, and balance of Leo. People respond to you naturally because of you are an interesting, active, adventurous, and exciting person. You pursue your ideals with great energy, excitement, a sense of adventure, and boundless enthusiasm. You love people and they respond to you in a very positive way to your magnetic personality. Self-image is all important to you, and you have a natural faith in yourself and probably a total confidence in your abilities. You respect yourself to a high degree and see yourself as a natural born leader. You need to achieve to reinforce this wonderful sense of worth, and to maintain a rightful position of leadership and popularity. Success may come because you can come up with good ideas, but more often it is because those above you and those below you both like you a lot and are willing to listen and follow you. You don't hesitate to tell people that you "need" them, because in your open and honest way, you're confident that they will respond to you and back your cause. You have a warm heart and an affectionate nature, because of a harmonious blending of individuality and personality; thinking and feeling are very much in tune. You have a talent for clear vision or for visualizing your goal or objective, concentrating on these goals and objectives, and attaining them.

Here’s one for July 4, 1776 (USA natal), which is also used by quite a few people as the USD natal – Sun Cancer, Moon Aquarius

The combination of your Sun sign and your Moon sign produces the kind of personality that can transmit an excellent understanding of yourself to others around you. You relate well to people and are likely to have the reputation for being one who is understanding and sympathetic. Yet you have a rather objective intellect that always seems to hold a large viewpoint. Your appeal may be to large groups of people more than to individuals as your aloofness and detachment draws people to you rather than drawing you toward others. You often appear preoccupied, as though you were caught up in many thoughts at the same time. You are critical of people, but always in a well-intentioned way. You have a good deal of pride and you're not one to bare your soul to those around you. There is little that is petty about you, and you have little time for pettiness in others. You have a way of achieving power over people, and you seem to spend little time or effort making friends. Nonetheless, you are well accepted for your general concern for people. With an aristocracy of bearing, you raise people to your level, rarely stooping to theirs.

Like I said, just for fun . . .

Hey Zap. I’ve done some playing around with that date. One of the charts I saved was this USD/JPY Weekly, with vertical lines for Venus conj Chiron aspects. The one in 2009 is actually just the first of 3, as Venus went retro, and there were 3 quick passes over Chiron altogether. Otherwise they’re all there from 2005 through 2010.

Notice what actually happened to price though. Each time the yen grew weaker, and U/J trended upward. Intuitively you’d expect the yen to grow stronger with this aspect. But in a twisted way it makes sense, because the yen behaves like an “anti-currency” (doing the opposite of what you’d normally expect a currency to do), and also because a weak yen is exactly what the exporting nation of Japan prefers. So looked at this way, the Venus conj Chiron aspects were favorable for Japan and the yen, even though the yen grew weaker instead of stronger.

Of course this doesn’t prove we have the right natal date for JPY. But it’s an interesting result.

This sounds interesting. Perhaps someone can create an indicator that plots this automatically? I have a gann grid indicator if anyone is interested in reprogramming it. Unfortunately i would not know where to start.

"When price and time square change is inevitable." - WD Gann

what does the above quote mean or what is the significance of the above quote by Gann ......... never touched Gann ..... curious to know ..

Good afternoon everything, good luck.
The schedule-forecast for three days.
1Pic - GBP.
2Pic - EUR.
3Pic - JPY

uh oh, i am arriving home until now, checking market and oh lala its moving in great shape. its volatil now.
ok, coffee and reading your posts guys

yes, some of his calls are pretty misterious for me, problem with that maybe is... i cant focus moon like trigger in short term. I prefer big and slow planets, major aspects and something interesting i am thinking months ago; its a matter of few specific aspects planets at same time example: trine, sq-conj or sq-conj-sq etc , in fact i shared a doc with cruiser about it because i dont have more clues, just a "feeling" thats the way to focus into big cycle moves in market.

pretty similar what i am suspecting now. I dont follow just aspects, i am trying to develope some ideas too, i am thinking about gann specific works of cycles and correlation of market with these wide swings drived for specific or trigger planets alignement.

You are saying something like this i guess (see image below) its a note from a seminar of gann students. I saw it and i was thinking "its a matter of a conjunction of aspects"? maybe a trine following for a conj or opposition.
I am researching and testing about it, i have some interesting texts about this topic.
still researching, testing and asking me lol

very nice tip cruiser, thanks! i hate excel lol and i dont use it often but with your detailed instructions maybe i will give a try. Its great to follow the reaction to some aspects, a kind of diary

Great! for fun but i wonder now too... where is the sun in my chart this day and what means?
i am an astrological disaster for myself because i just know i am virgo and nothing else!

nice and clear plot cruiser. I have seen same thing in my charts and scratching my head, wondering why yen was reacting weaker with the aspect... (your explanation makes sense and i understand more, thanks) and then i remember too my excerpt some posts ago about "its doesnt matter if its a hard or soft aspect and you are expecting "bad" or "god" move (buy or sell trend) and finaly currency behavior is different"... the fact is: the aspect has correlation with a movement of currency, i see is pretty clear the correlation with that date of yen and the aspect, but in inverse way of course.
Now i am thinking, what with the squares? or opposition? its a inverse behavior too for this currency? how to know? just a way to know: more work to do... plotting these aspects in historic charts.

but for now i have little time for these researchs and a lot of work with my job, family life things etc so... here we are... astrotraders sharing what we can find to divide the research and results

thanks guys!

Cyclic patterns.
You are reading something about it. root principles... fibonacci, gann, planetary cycles and geometry: almost same path.
but i will left JR97 to answer more specific because you are asking him.

nice psv
you are still selecting all the houses in the config of zet forecast? when i am using it i just select 2th and 10th
what is your interpretation of this forecast? please, share it.

thanks

i am out. time for bed


have a nice morning guys
cu soon

Interpretation is simple.
Time for schedules Moscow. Pay attention to correlation on time in due course of an exit of news under interest rates and other.
Till Friday there will be a corridor on these currencies - not less established minimum for a week and no more established maximum at what on Friday the probability of easing of pound increases. But during week-end a rupture high probability in a bottom on pound, as in pregoing days off upwards.
The euro slowly weakens, smoothly (before increase of interest rates).JPY on the contrary amplifies.
As to "houses", I did not begin to clean a mark from options have left as is, but I consider that use of houses in forecasts not absolutely correctly because the person possesses will, consciousness and a freedom in choosing, the currency - is not present.
Cost of currencies (any) is result of its importance for people in time present situation. And as importance installation (on the future) that at whom is on it forces and means.

I like it!

There is a good correlation with my list of GBP and EUR aspects for those dates. It's nice to see it in graphical form. Originally I didn't have Apr 10 since that's a Saturday, but I've added it here. I also highlighted the so called "favorable" or "bullish" aspects, since those seem to correlate with the high peeks in your graphs. Makes it easier to compare.

But I suspect ZET8 is including aspects I'm ignoring for now. That would help explain some of the other things I'm seeing in the graphs. They're probably also assigning values or "weights" to aspects (and / or planets), and I have no idea what they've decided to use for that. So the forecast is still a little mysterious to me, even though I liked it.

Hi all, I was just wondering, with all the focus on the aspectarian, is that what jameshong uses?

I quite like the aspectarian however are there any other indicators (astrological) that anyone is aware of that he uses?

happy successful trading