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  • #60,021
  • Edited 1:15am Apr 6, 2010 12:58am | Edited 1:15am
Does the flap of a butterfly wing on one side of the world cause a hurricane on the other?

Hi,
Is it ok to post newbie questions about this thread or is that done somewhere else now?

New to trading (5 weeks) and feel sooo lucky I found this thread (and Jackos); was mentioned on another trading site.

I didnt know where to start with strategy, markets or even how many markets. I read about position trading, swing, scalping and felt lost. I saw lots of so called systems and strategies. I saw lots of different TA techniques and felt uncomfortable with them, it didnt feel right.

Found this thread couple of weeks ago and my outlook totally changed. It has given me a direction and a positive feeling about trading. Im excited about the whole thing!

My point about the famous butterfly effect is I wonder how many people lives this thread has affected? Anything from finding a hobby to finding financial freedom. If this thread never existed (and it sounds like Jim very nearly didnt bother with it) how would peoples lives be different. When I go to the shop to buy some bread, it doesnt really change anything. If I decide not to go, the chances are, nothing is different.

Imagine if Jim decided not to bother with that first post, ok maybe he would have done it elsewhere or came back at a later date (and if he didnt, no one would be any the wiser) but it seems pretty cosmic lol.

Anyway gonna start demoing in the next week or two using J16 and Jacko ideas. Daily and weekly TFs only (looking for grade A setups) until profitable for 3 months (or 2) in a row.

So looking forward to this and thank you all.....
  • #60,022
  • Apr 6, 2010 1:44am Apr 6, 2010 1:44am
Quoting joelcf
The stuff I have read in some threads here is priceless - people seriously think there is some Gollum-like figure sitting in a cave, watching his screen for their microlot long yen order and then shorting the market a couple hundred million to stop them out.
you made my day with this. Thanks for the explanation! I also read forums on brokers here on FF yesterday, and the situation got clear in my head. Yes, you are right, people always need someone to blame for their fault.
Here in Ukraine we have hundreds of scum dealing desks, so the stories keep on going. But if you open an account with a big foreign broker, I think they are much more concerned about their reputation, than not paying me a few hundrends.
  • #60,023
  • Apr 6, 2010 2:35am Apr 6, 2010 2:35am
Stopped out on my Yen's.

Missed the geppy on BRN. But took some breakouts+lousy 4H BEOB's.

See what London brings us.
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  • #60,024
  • Apr 6, 2010 3:32am Apr 6, 2010 3:32am
As someone who has gone through the thread a couple of times(when it was a bit smaller!) I would advise anyone to pay close attention to mbq11 +jarroo's posts - you will learn a lot from those 2 sirs. However the single most important post on the entire thread is post no1. Anyone not following the minimum requirements is up against it in my opinion.

berti
PA is where its at!!
  • #60,025
  • Apr 6, 2010 4:03am Apr 6, 2010 4:03am
Quoting joelcf
30 minutes per page? God no. My average is probably less than a minute per page. Which makes the thread about 66 hours, which is less than a month's work at a leisurely 2 hours(ish) a day.

Sure, you might reread a lengthy Jaroo post five times. And restudy one of Jims charts a bunch of time. And spend ten minutes laughing at the photo of the giant pig. But you will cruise through 90% of the material here as fast as your eyes can move.

Newbies, dont despair
...a minute per page???
wow the "fastest" reading bear on earth
by the way I'll try to speed up as much as possible...
thank you and have a nice "quick" day
Andrea
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  • Apr 6, 2010 4:36am Apr 6, 2010 4:36am
Quoting printer69
...a minute per page???
wow the "fastest" reading bear on earth
by the way I'll try to speed up as much as possible...
thank you and have a nice "quick" day
Andrea
Well i never stressed myself in my life to read something that i can't enjoy or if i am reading something educative i will read until i could absorb the knowledge.

i have just read first 50 pages of this thread and thread summaries.

After that i told myself "Ok that's enough reading now lets do this stuff".
Hope fully i will start to read the thread again from where i left.

It's not directed to any individual but just my word of advise to anybody who thinks that all he/she need to do is to read 4000 pages of this thread (ASAP and he/she will start to make money automatically.

I will respectfully disagree.

I think first 100-200 pages are enough to get the idea of the basics and then the summaries will do good job in picking up a style of a senior. Obviously there is nothing wrong in reading the whole thread if you'r enjoin and learning without stress.

Good Luck.
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  • #60,027
  • Apr 6, 2010 5:05am Apr 6, 2010 5:05am
Quoting nasir.khan
Well i never stressed myself in my life to read something that i can't enjoy or if i am reading something educative i will read until i could absorb the knowledge.

i have just read first 50 pages of this thread and thread summaries.

After that i told myself "Ok that's enough reading now lets do this stuff".
Hope fully i will start to read the thread again from where i left.

It's not directed to any individual but just my word of advise to anybody who thinks that...
Ciao Nasir how are you?
maybe you forgot because so many newbies in here but first 100 pages is the target I am very close to...
as you and Mike suggested almost 2 months ago together with some books to start with!
thanks again for your advices

Andrea
  • #60,028
  • Apr 6, 2010 5:06am Apr 6, 2010 5:06am
Quoting nasir.khan
Well i never stressed myself in my life to read something that i can't enjoy or if i am reading something educative i will read until i could absorb the knowledge.

i have just read first 50 pages of this thread and thread summaries.

After that i told myself "Ok that's enough reading now lets do this stuff".
Hope fully i will start to read the thread again from where i left.

It's not directed to any individual but just my word of advise to anybody who thinks...
Thanks for this Nasir - did that but now having a hard time just keeping up with the thread and reading posts/charts thorougly!

Thanks again to you and everyone for all your brilliant support - am getting there (I think!)

Cheers

J
  • #60,029
  • Apr 6, 2010 5:35am Apr 6, 2010 5:35am
Quoting printer69
Ciao Nasir how are you?
maybe you forgot because so many newbies in here but first 100 pages is the target I am very close to...
as you and Mike suggested almost 2 months ago together with some books to start with!
thanks again for your advices

Andrea
I remember you Andrea.

It's been almost 2 months and you did't even completed first 100 pages.

Why??

Cause you are not just reading them that you could claim that you've done it.

You are trying to understand each and every post and this is the whole point Andrea, this is how you should learn things.

Always here to help.
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  • #60,030
  • Apr 6, 2010 5:37am Apr 6, 2010 5:37am
Quoting jspeakman
Thanks for this Nasir - did that but now having a hard time just keeping up with the thread and reading posts/charts thorougly!

Thanks again to you and everyone for all your brilliant support - am getting there (I think!)

Cheers

J
You will get there Js.
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  • #60,031
  • Apr 6, 2010 6:29am Apr 6, 2010 6:29am
Quoting Cyrus
Yet another big RN =)

As usual, let me know if I've missed anyone out.
You'll need winrar to open the files btw.
hey Cyrus, thanx for these files. they come in very handy and your work is appreciated.

cheers

jon
PATIENCE... DISCIPLINE
  • #60,032
  • Apr 6, 2010 6:36am Apr 6, 2010 6:36am
Anyone from the PF site mgmt, please PM me. I'm facing some account issue but not getting any respond from what I think is the website mgr email. Tks.
  • #60,033
  • Apr 6, 2010 6:42am Apr 6, 2010 6:42am
Quoting nasir.khan
I remember you Andrea.

It's been almost 2 months and you did't even completed first 100 pages.

Why??

Cause you are not just reading them that you could claim that you've done it.

You are trying to understand each and every post and this is the whole point Andrea, this is how you should learn things.

Always here to help.
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Nasir,

you know what I have learned more while studying how to trade fx and what a pinbar is?
...to set up my study plan in a logical way and to find my way to deal with this!

there were so many things and books and forums and charts and bla bla that the most difficult things to do was to set up a soustainable study plan and trustable people to rely on out there!

I spent my time in finding the right path to follow, the right material to study and the right people to trust as tutor, that time was the best spent one, have the impression I was really lucky to have "benem" giving me this link while I was surfing the web searching for something to trust and follow...
I think he saved me years and money. (grazie Luca!!!)

I am finishing what I called my level zero to approach this, wich is reading some books suggested by you guys and reading this thread from page1 to have a small idea of what this is and what this could be.

In my plan there is a level one next to this wich is, and I say it only because of the logical study sequence I decided to follow, an upgrade for my skills and knowledge wich I believe (but might be wrong) from a newbie can only be a dedicated tutor or a course for a certain period of time!

I just invent nothing and apply the same logical study plan I received when I trained as air traffic controller wich is my profession now, it took me 18 months of training theory and simulations mon-fri 9am-14pm exams after exams under pressure you cant even breath sometimes only to go to the radar centre and enter to say "hi I am the new one..." while there were controllers separating aircraft from twousands of years... to learn finally how to work as a professional for real with real aircraft and real people on board!

This was my big problem, couldnt find anything troustable about how to start learning this business, unless I found this thread!!

How can you believe to became a "professional trader and make money" as they say with two, I repeat 2 days course and giving them 2000USD??

It is like to me to say to you in 2 days how to not give the same flight level at 2 aircraft flying in the opposite direction one to another...and asking for 2000USD!!

The big problem I think is not to learn what a pinbar is, experience and patiente and application and simulation will tell you sooner or later...the big deal was to find the right and honest people to follow...

Hope this post will guarantee me the same montly cost james16group apply now just in case of a change of their minds in the meantime I am finishing studyng my level zero to start

Thank you gentleman!

Andrea








thats the good process while learning
  • #60,034
  • Apr 6, 2010 7:10am Apr 6, 2010 7:10am
Quoting printer69
Nasir,

...

you know what I have learned more while studying how to trade fx and what a pinbar is?
...to set up my study plan in a logical way and to find my way to deal with this!

...
The day you realized your true accomplishments lay beyond recognizing what a pin bar is...you understood what the real deal is...and hence you would have understood exactly what is required to "make it" in this business.

Provision of ample time to absorb and apply knowledge is certainly one of the "essential" and yielding initial investments.

Keep it up dude!

g.
I believe . . .
  • #60,035
  • Apr 6, 2010 8:16am Apr 6, 2010 8:16am
I can't thank you all enough for this wonderful thread....I have learned so much and appreciate the professionalism that is carried throughout your posts as well as the joking from time to time.

I have read the first few hundred pages and most recent threads and it has been very rewarding.

Further, I have utilized methods/approaches/instruction and integrating it with my prior knowledge with the markets and it has been most beneficial.

I apologize for not "coming out of the weeds sooner," but I hate to write and wanted to spend the time demoing to see if it fit with my plan. And over the last several months it has!

I will continue to build on the more simplified strategies that I have learned here and hopefully add to these as I become better.

Sincerely,

Bill
  • #60,036
  • Apr 6, 2010 8:19am Apr 6, 2010 8:19am
Quoting ghous
The day you realized your true accomplishments lay beyond recognizing what a pin bar is...you understood what the real deal is...and hence you would have understood exactly what is required to "make it" in this business.

Provision of ample time to absorb and apply knowledge is certainly one of the "essential" and yielding initial investments.

Keep it up dude!

g.
ciao Ghous
many, many thanks...
Andrea
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  • Apr 6, 2010 9:06am Apr 6, 2010 9:06am
Quoting nasir.khan
I just added another.......
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  • #60,038
  • Apr 6, 2010 9:21am Apr 6, 2010 9:21am
Quoting raczekfx
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You gave me the TIP.

Did't Ya????
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  • #60,039
  • Apr 6, 2010 9:34am Apr 6, 2010 9:34am
Quoting nasir.khan
You gave me the TIP.

Did't Ya????
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.. stoker



p.s. play that oil close to your chest today...
  • #60,040
  • Apr 6, 2010 9:43am Apr 6, 2010 9:43am
Quoting raczekfx
.. stoker



p.s. play that oil close to your chest today...
Orders Set.
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