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  • #12,141
  • Apr 6, 2010 3:42am Apr 6, 2010 3:42am
Is anyone going to drive this or is it just another dead idea ....




Quoting ichi360
Thanks mate,

If the group decided to form something I would definitely forward my application to join as a member.

If I could qualify, I would be honored to be a proud member.

Cheers,
Asher
  • #12,142
  • Apr 6, 2010 3:50am Apr 6, 2010 3:50am
Quoting ichi360
Is anyone going to drive this or is it just another dead idea ....


Hi Asher,

Could you please explain more detail about the 'commitment' ... is it really must online to join discussion 8 hours a day ? About member fee, is it monthly (if yes, how much), or like you said $300 for onetime pay only ? What is other criteria must we have, like : must understand Ichimoku system, and other system ? I'm a beginner, so may be much of forex item that I still don't know ... And what will we really do in this group ? Must we have a real trading acdount or can also a demo account while we are still learning ? Sorry, so much questions

thanks.
- pedma -
Good friends are more valuable than gold ...
  • #12,143
  • Apr 6, 2010 3:57am Apr 6, 2010 3:57am
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  • #12,144
  • Apr 6, 2010 4:05am Apr 6, 2010 4:05am
Quoting pedma
Hi Asher,

Could you please explain more detail about the 'commitment' ... is it really must online to join discussion 8 hours a day ? About member fee, is it monthly (if yes, how much), or like you said $300 for onetime pay only ? What is other criteria must we have, like : must understand Ichimoku system, and other system ? I'm a beginner, so may be much of forex item that I still don't know ... ...
That's exactly what I wanted to ask
i am as well a beginner
And also I want to participate
kiki
  • #12,145
  • Apr 6, 2010 4:08am Apr 6, 2010 4:08am
Quoting pedma
Could you please explain more detail about the 'commitment'
The easiest definition of commitment in this special case might be the following:
- you are convinced of ichimoku
- you know that ichimoku can help you a lot (when used the right way)
* you know that not by reading, but by doing and learning
- you are willing to give away and share your experiences
- you spent as most time as possible to follow and even teach the group
* here not a fixed value is meant... but just take part in discussions
- you can pay for that group (but you are not forced to do that)
  • #12,146
  • Apr 6, 2010 4:15am Apr 6, 2010 4:15am
Few things:

1. I'm myself not the driver of this anymore but since few people showed their interest I thought it would honour to join such a life changing thing

2. I never raised the idea of Fees so I've no clue about this.

3. Lets be frank here. I've seen many plans like this in past but they have all failed and the only reason is that people take things for granted. We started a group on Skype with extremely selected people, in the begining everyone took part but now after few months we are only 3 people who are in constant touch ...

Whoever starts this group will have to make sure this is going to survive for a long time and not just a fancy idea for 4 weeks ....




Quoting pedma
Hi Asher,

Could you please explain more detail about the 'commitment' ... is it really must online to join discussion 8 hours a day ? About member fee, is it monthly (if yes, how much), or like you said $300 for onetime pay only ? What is other criteria must we have, like : must understand Ichimoku system, and other system ? I'm a beginner, so may be much of forex item that I still don't know ... ...
  • #12,147
  • Apr 6, 2010 4:17am Apr 6, 2010 4:17am
My pick of the day

Quoting nightyhawk
- you spent as most time as possible to follow and even teach the group
  • #12,148
  • Apr 6, 2010 4:18am Apr 6, 2010 4:18am
Quoting nightyhawk
The easiest definition of commitment in this special case might be the following:
- you are convinced of ichimoku
- you know that ichimoku can help you a lot (when used the right way)
* you know that not by reading, but by doing and learning
- you are willing to give away and share your experiences
- you spent as most time as possible to follow and even teach the group
* here not a fixed value is meant... but just take part in discussions
- you can pay for that group (but you are not forced to do that)
Hi Nightyhawk,

Thanks for your explanation. Is it really with VOLUNTARY (no fixed amount of money to pay) ?????

Thanks
- pedma -
Good friends are more valuable than gold ...
  • #12,149
  • Apr 6, 2010 4:24am Apr 6, 2010 4:24am
Quoting pedma
Hi Nightyhawk,

Thanks for your explanation. Is it really with VOLUNTARY (no fixed amount of money to pay) ?????

Thanks
- pedma -
Why do you all talk about fees or something like that... if I had the choice to either take 1.000$ every month are just be able to read the posts of ichi360 then I would take the last one...

When you read my post in detail there is nothing VOLUNTARY... but you have to contribute... by discussing, by teaching, by being there....

Just make a guess, how much asher payed for being here with us (and I don't speak about money)! Asher and even Mr. Orange paid a huge sum to be here... they paid with experience, with help and with indicators... that is what it is!
  • #12,150
  • Apr 6, 2010 4:26am Apr 6, 2010 4:26am
Quoting ichi360
Few things:

1. I'm myself not the driver of this anymore but since few people showed their interest I thought it would honour to join such a life changing thing

2. I never raised the idea of Fees so I've no clue about this.

3. Lets be frank here. I've seen many plans like this in past but they have all failed and the only reason is that people take things for granted. We started a group on Skype with extremely selected people, in the begining everyone took part but now after few months we are only 3 people who are in constant touch ...

Whoever...
Hi Asher,

So time & commitment is the most important, not the money ... I got it. I can share my experience / opinion, but I'm not a master .. And I think, I will get so much IMPORTANT experinces from the masters of Ichimoku, It's great. I have time (although I can not spend 12 x 7 hours in a week), but I will try my best. I must spend some days out of town in some months, and can not participate to the group at this time, but I think it's not a bad commitment, is it ? I have a big interest of this group.

Thanks
- pedma -
Good friends are more valuable than gold ...
  • #12,151
  • Apr 6, 2010 4:31am Apr 6, 2010 4:31am
Quoting nightyhawk
Why do you all talk about fees or something like that... if I had the choice to either take 1.000$ every month are just be able to read the posts of ichi360 then I would take the last one...

When you read my post in detail there is nothing VOLUNTARY... but you have to contribute... by discussing, by teaching, by being there....

Just make a guess, how much asher payed for being here with us (and I don't speak about money)! Asher and even Mr. Orange paid a huge sum to be here... they paid with experience, with help and with...
Hi nighthawk,

Don't be angry (my english is bad, may be I must choose another better word for that . You can see my previous post. For me, it doesn't matter to pay if it's still in my ability ... We can get UNCOMPARABLE VALUEABLE experience & tips to make a better life. I beliefe that .... I will make profit, I have proved it at demo account. I know Vic, Asher & others don't think of money to build this group.

Thanks.
- pedma -
Good friends are more valuable than gold ...
  • #12,152
  • Apr 6, 2010 4:36am Apr 6, 2010 4:36am
The other most important thing is the Privacy of Trading Rules ...

Quoting pedma
Hi Asher,

So time & commitment is the most important, not the money ... I got it. I can share my experience / opinion, but I'm not a master .. And I think, I will get so much IMPORTANT experinces from the masters of Ichimoku, It's great. I have time (although I can not spend 12 x 7 hours in a week), but I will try my best. I must spend some days out of town in some months, and can not participate to the group at this time, but I think it's not a bad commitment, is it ? I have a big interest of this group.

Thanks
- pedma -
  • #12,153
  • Apr 6, 2010 4:39am Apr 6, 2010 4:39am
Quoting ichi360
The other most important thing is the Privacy of Trading Rules ...

Hi Asher,

Sorry, I don't understand this. Could you explain more the 'Privacy of Trading Rules' ??

Thanks.
- pedma -
Good friends are more valuable than gold ...
  • #12,154
  • Apr 6, 2010 4:41am Apr 6, 2010 4:41am
Quoting ichi360
The other most important thing is the Privacy of Trading Rules ...
You won't find any possibility to avoid hurting that privacy... even by contracts some people will broke that silence... So in my opinion there are not many ways to rome...

a) take your three people (those from skype - cause they seem to be reliable) and add some more people from this thread (e.g. vic or some other who contributed a lot to the public)!
b) show the new ones only a little part of your wisdom / or your rules
c) extend that taught knowlegde time by time, so you can't grasp the whole set of rules in less than a couple of years...
d) give regularly new people the chance to join your group... (but I don't know, how to choose them...?!)
  • #12,155
  • Apr 6, 2010 4:43am Apr 6, 2010 4:43am
First we need 100% neat and clear trading rules defined for each ichimoku strategy (TS/KS, KS Break, Kumo break etc) and then the whole group trades with the same rules ... its like mechanical trading / no emotions.

But these rules needs to be locked inside a room ... original turtles had a restriction of not sharing rules with non members for 10 years ...




Quoting pedma
Hi Asher,

Sorry, I don't understand this. Could you explain more the 'Privacy of Trading Rules' ??

Thanks.
- pedma -
  • #12,156
  • Apr 6, 2010 4:49am Apr 6, 2010 4:49am
Quoting ichi360
First we need to define 100% neat and clear trading rules defined for each ichimoku strategy (TS/KS, KS Break, Kumo break etc) and then the whole group trades with the same rules ... its like mechanical trading / no emotions.

But these rules needs to be locked inside a room ... original turtles had a restriction of not sharing rules with non members for 10 years ...
Now I got it. Thanks.

- pedma -
Good friends are more valuable than gold ...
  • #12,157
  • Apr 6, 2010 4:53am Apr 6, 2010 4:53am
can i short usd/jpy >>>>>?????

it seem there is breakout at H1 chart
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  • #12,158
  • Apr 6, 2010 4:56am Apr 6, 2010 4:56am
Quoting ichi360
... its like mechanical trading / no emotions.
Whoa.... I am surprised... do you think this is possible which Ichi? I'm just working on some rules my own... but at the moment it seems almost unreal to trade Ichi mechanical...!
  • #12,159
  • Edited 5:13am Apr 6, 2010 4:59am | Edited 5:13am
Quoting ichi360
First we need 100% neat and clear trading rules defined for each ichimoku strategy (TS/KS, KS Break, Kumo break etc) and then the whole group trades with the same rules ... its like mechanical trading / no emotions.

But these rules needs to be locked inside a room ... original turtles had a restriction of not sharing rules with non members for 10 years ...
Hi, all. I've been reading this thread for a couple of months since I found it early this year. There are much valuable information and invaluable contributions by many posters. Thanks for all your great work.

However, even as a junior member new to posting, I would still like to raise a question: why is the anxiety to keep trading rules private and secret? Isn't the spirit and ethos of forums and posters to help out each other and new comers?

I know I am not qualified to say much on this issue. But I would really love to see this forum carry on as it is with many sharing their thoughts and charts, instead of bundling off to a secret room and no-one else can benefit.
  • #12,160
  • Apr 6, 2010 4:59am Apr 6, 2010 4:59am
Quoting ichi360
First we need 100% neat and clear trading rules defined for each ichimoku strategy (TS/KS, KS Break, Kumo break etc) and then the whole group trades with the same rules ... its like mechanical trading / no emotions.

But these rules needs to be locked inside a room ... original turtles had a restriction of not sharing rules with non members for 10 years ...
Arenīt the Ichiwiki rules sufficient?
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