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  • #61
  • Apr 5, 2010 7:28pm Apr 5, 2010 7:28pm
I have read through this thread twice and for the life of me I can't figure out what is being said. There are lots of neat keywords that make it seem like orderflow is being discussed, but I can't even figure out if any of them are being used in the right context.

Heres a one sentence example:

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we would believe that price is more likely to trigger the stops and triggers long with market order price discovery because as price pushes against the demand zone buyside limits and stops will accrue at the wave highs because traders will be looking to go long at this area or are already short at this area and holds stops on failure so as demand begins to overwhelm supply market orders should eat buyside liquidity and trigger floods of stops and long triggers these then intern will cause price to rise as the market will find it harder to fill these...

Now, if i didn't know better I would think this is randomly spun search engin spam, but that stuff is usually more coherent. Maybe the author can try using fewer keywords and more punctuation in making their points?

As it stands I have absolutly no idea what this is supposed to mean...
  • #62
  • Apr 5, 2010 7:32pm Apr 5, 2010 7:32pm
Quoting domino
ok guys so when you go to the market and place a limit order are you guys telling your broker that it is not a marketable limit order? your specifically saying to your decentralized for the most part unregulated market that you dont want a marketable limit order.

we are going to our brokers and saying "yes priority is not and issue please issue me a non-marketable limit order"?


You can't issue a real limit order if you wanted to in our retail world! Oanda's limit orders still pay the spread, it's a joke.

If I was trading on the interbank, or in FX futures, that would be another story. The marketability of a limit order is dependent on it's price. Limits that don't ever trade are too far from the market and are therefore unmarketable.
  • #63
  • Apr 5, 2010 7:37pm Apr 5, 2010 7:37pm
Quoting Scotty B
The PDFs that you keep refering to are cursory glances at microstructure. I think you read them once and are just making things up here as you go. It's like you're trying to teach calculus after reading a course description for it. You don't have a Bloomberg termininal, I 100% guarantee it. Bloomberg is extrememly expensive. If so, who is your regional rep? How many times have you met with him face to face? Why in the world are you piddling with Oanda and wasting time here at FF if you're at a pro level, paying professional prices? C'mon man, give...
screw it i dont have time to argue with you.. im not a unprofitable trader sitting infront of my computer wondering why.
  • #64
  • Apr 5, 2010 7:41pm Apr 5, 2010 7:41pm
Quoting domino
screw it i dont have time to argue with you.. im not a unprofitable trader sitting infront of my computer wondering why.
Oh, where are you sitting then?
  • #65
  • Apr 5, 2010 7:43pm Apr 5, 2010 7:43pm
Quoting Scotty B
Oh, where are you sitting then?
well im sitting in front of my computer actually trading making money not starting threads about why I havent been able to.. or making 1 single trade call that results in 50k losses.. but instead showing trades in real time that did make money... weird.
  • #66
  • Apr 5, 2010 7:46pm Apr 5, 2010 7:46pm
Quoting domino
well im sitting in front of my computer actually trading making money not starting threads about why I havent been able to.. or making 1 single trade call that results in 50k losses.. but instead showing trades in real time that did make money... weird.

Man that's weak as hell... bringing up that 50k loss... No one is free from having losses. The 50k might be shocking to some of you because well you can only dream of that much capital.
  • #67
  • Apr 5, 2010 7:49pm Apr 5, 2010 7:49pm
Quoting domino
well im sitting in front of my computer actually trading making money not starting threads about why I havent been able to..
If I could make money not starting threads about why I could not start threads I'd do the same thing. Pat on the back there for sure.
Quoting domino
weird.
Indeed
  • #68
  • Apr 5, 2010 7:50pm Apr 5, 2010 7:50pm
Quoting Deusomega
Man that's weak as hell... bringing up that 50k loss... No one is free from having losses. The 50k might be shocking to some of you because well you can only dream of that much capital.
lol its not as shocking as being the only trade call one can find from someone with a 10+V but the fastest way to 50k trading is starting from 100k with no plan right.. and im not the person starting this
  • #69
  • Apr 5, 2010 7:53pm Apr 5, 2010 7:53pm
Quoting Scotty B
If I could make money not starting threads about why I could not start threads I'd do the same thing. Pat on the back there for sure.


Indeed
just saying youve self admittedly said hey im not making anymoney.. so just wondering if its the 10V that makes you more experienced than me..? and BTW i took the bloom cert at penn state where i went to school for finance which is the 32nd ranked school for business..

so anyways yeah please come in here acting like you know what you are doing when your not making money
  • #70
  • Apr 5, 2010 7:56pm Apr 5, 2010 7:56pm
Quoting domino
lol its not as shocking as being the only trade call one can find from someone with a 10+V but the fastest way to 50k trading is starting from 100k with no plan right.. and im not the person starting this
Its nothing. Its a logical fallacy based on an unrepresentative sample. One trade means nothing.

And my point was that if someone is "starting" something then finish it with logic rather than resorting to ad hominems. When one resorts to such personal attacks it clearly shows they aren't comfortable with the subject matter.
  • #71
  • Apr 5, 2010 7:57pm Apr 5, 2010 7:57pm
There was a live trade call here?

NOTE:// I'm not criticizing Domino or his trade system. I can't understand what he is trying to say so I have no place saying if he is right or wrong in any of it. Why he would target "MY" trade in an arguement with scotty is a whole other subject...
  • #72
  • Apr 5, 2010 8:00pm Apr 5, 2010 8:00pm
Quoting domino
just saying youve self admittedly said hey im not making anymoney.. so just wondering if its the 10V that makes you more experienced than me..? and BTW i took the bloom cert at penn state where i went to school for finance which is the 32nd ranked school for business..
Well, since you asked, I'm getting ready to pay a boatload for a quality data feed, and moving into the futures arena. Retail is designed to help traders fail. IMO of course.

I didn't know bloomberg made breath mints http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certs. Did you ever get docked for using run-on sentences while at Penn State? Do they not require courses in English for their budding financiers?
  • #73
  • Apr 5, 2010 8:03pm Apr 5, 2010 8:03pm
Quoting Deusomega
Its nothing. Its a logical fallacy based on an unrepresentative sample. One trade means nothing.

And my point was that if someone is "starting" something then finish it with logic rather than resorting to ad hominems. When one resorts to such personal attacks it clearly shows they aren't comfortable with the subject matter.
its also not logical with people without proven track records or even real time trading trying to educate people or with a track record of one loss and one try.. trying to tell me whose posted multiple profitable trades all more than risked that im wrong or that im search engine spamming information. Now when you guys open up a thread and put your balls on the line and show us your trading in real time maybe it will belogical... but ask darkstar said.. I put my name on the line on the forum to show this trade or something like that im not gonna look it up.. so you guys do it open up a journal and lets see the veterans trade until then all ur talking is meaningless
  • #74
  • Apr 5, 2010 8:04pm Apr 5, 2010 8:04pm
Quoting Darkstar
There was a live trade call here?

NOTE:// I'm not criticizing Domino or his trade system. I can't understand what he is trying to say so I have no place saying if he is right or wrong in any of it. Why he would target "MY" trade in an arguement with scotty is a whole other subject...
just seemed like u where against me and I got not problem stating my mind or not really that but im a fighter so ya know.. I do respect your stickied thread and I am over in cocoa by the way its only 3 hours away
  • #75
  • Apr 5, 2010 8:06pm Apr 5, 2010 8:06pm
Quoting Scotty B
Well, since you asked, I'm getting ready to pay a boatload for a quality data feed, and moving into the futures arena. Retail is designed to help traders fail. IMO of course.

I didn't know bloomberg made breath mints http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certs. Did you ever get docked for using run-on sentences while at Penn State? Do they not require courses in English for their budding financiers?
I dont feel the need to punctuate or think about sentence structure on a forum.. If im writing a paper maybe but not on a public forum

if you think a quality data feed and shifting "arena's" is gonna make u magically profitable think again
  • #76
  • Apr 5, 2010 8:09pm Apr 5, 2010 8:09pm
Quoting domino
I dont feel the need to punctuate or think about sentence structure on a forum.. If im writing a paper maybe but not on a public forum
You are trying to teach something though. You're causing mass confusion. How hard is it to use periods?
  • #77
  • Apr 5, 2010 8:12pm Apr 5, 2010 8:12pm
Quoting Scotty B
You are trying to teach something though. You're causing mass confusion. How hard is it to use periods?
its alot of work and id rather get to posting live trades and why I traded there and how to work them

Im more of an action guy than a talker
  • #78
  • Apr 5, 2010 8:18pm Apr 5, 2010 8:18pm
Quoting domino
its alot of work and id rather get to posting live trades and why I traded there and how to work them
By all means. Just be open to correction, especially about such basic things like order types.
  • #79
  • Apr 5, 2010 8:21pm Apr 5, 2010 8:21pm
Quoting Scotty B
By all means. Just be open to correction, especially about such basic things like order types.
i will be when someone who knows what they are talking about comes in to correct me and can show proof.. or when someone who isnt all talk and does steps in to tell me
  • #80
  • Apr 5, 2010 8:27pm Apr 5, 2010 8:27pm
please guys.
we are all friends.everyone is here to either learn or help somenone who is new in trading world.
so forget all other thing and show each other how to trade beter way.
learning never ends.

keep up the good works
sho
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