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  • #11,481
  • Mar 29, 2010 6:11am Mar 29, 2010 6:11am
http://ichimokulab.com/screen/USDCAD...1269866389.gif
Anyone have any thoughts on the USDCAD a few hours ago...
Massive flat bottom kumo on the hourly coming up, and a big flat top kumo on the H4 look a bit worrying. Looking at the daily it seems to be sat on some pretty major resistance.
  • #11,482
  • Mar 29, 2010 6:11am Mar 29, 2010 6:11am
Quoting IchiLab
On the daily it also looks like the market is struggling to break through the TS and is starting to retrace. Think that 1h flat kumo could be a good call.
well i am not the kind of pickin up lows and highs , but it is ok to set an entry position @ the flat kumo on 1hr as long as you calculated your risk

myself i think i'll wait for the 4hrs break to jump in with this position or at leats set my plan for going with it . you have to be aware that every entry and each moment in this market is unique by itself , so each time u are looking for an entry u'll have a different plan than the one before it cause i sometime go directly with the 4hrs break some other times go with the 4hrs and some others dun follow the break and wait for another signal.

good luck
  • #11,483
  • Mar 29, 2010 6:15am Mar 29, 2010 6:15am
Quoting legalindo
Long @ 138.02
Close = + 98 pips.
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  • #11,484
  • Mar 29, 2010 6:17am Mar 29, 2010 6:17am
Yes, I agree that flat lines will always attract price like gravitational force. In this particular example, AUDUSD H1 chart, the flast KS might attract the price.

But I could not understand the role of flat kumo (present bearish) at this stage. We already have bullish future kumo with angle upward. So, the role of bearish flat kumo is over now and it's the turn of future kumo to manage the price.

If the price comes down, it'll be because of flat KS and not because of flat kumo.

Please correct me wherever I'm wrong.

Thanks
  • #11,485
  • Mar 29, 2010 6:25am Mar 29, 2010 6:25am
Quoting vic_elc
well the flat lines ( Kumo , ks even Ts ) means that the market is not ready for a direction , if the future kumo is flat it will be able to attract the price , it is as if the move we got is not a normal one and expect the market to return back to point zero before it starts trending again .
Ks which is all the time @ the current price gives us an idea abut what is happening now, so when it is flat it means that the market dun know what to do now,
so i pref to enter with a clear trending pair or signal .
is it clear now or u'd like me to explain...
Hey Vic, I'm happy to see you again!

How do you think about this example:
All signals are given. We had a strong trend, it was consolidating and now it slowly continious the trend. The Kj is flat and remains flat until we have a new HH or the periods of the LL's go behind the 26 periods (so the midpoint of the HH/LL would go up). If the Ts crosses the Kj, we have a full signal, but a flat Kj.

What do you think? I feel, it's not a strong signal, if the cross has flat lines.

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  • #11,486
  • Mar 29, 2010 6:41am Mar 29, 2010 6:41am
Quoting gkdoda
Yes, I agree that flat lines will always attract price like gravitational force. In this particular example, AUDUSD H1 chart, the flast KS might attract the price.

But I could not understand the role of flat kumo (present bearish) at this stage. We already have bullish future kumo with angle upward. So, the role of bearish flat kumo is over now and it's the turn of future kumo to manage the price.

If the price comes down, it'll be because of flat KS and not because of flat kumo.

Please correct me wherever I'm wrong.

Thanks
Both ks and the Kumo act the same , as long as we have flat line below or in front of the PA we must take care of it , the USD CHF daily chart is a clear example of this, see how the price was attracted by the flat Kumo and then started to resume the trend again
abut the future kumo it is an indication of the new trend , so what we have now on AUD usd is a signal that a bullish trend is establishing itself .
so when we think now we think using the whole picture we have
it will be like this

we have a trend establishing it self on 1hr chart , some flat lines are on the way so we expect some pullback before the trend resumes itself ,the 4hrs and the daily support some pull back so we better wait till things are more clear and then jump in

it is like if you are forecasting what gonna happen to yourself

what do you think , shall i explain further ??!!!
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  • #11,487
  • Mar 29, 2010 6:44am Mar 29, 2010 6:44am
Quoting 4xAddict
Hi All,

Hope 2010 has been profitable so far!

Fantastic to see this thread continuing to provide great discussion for nearly 800 pages - nice work Vic.

For those of you guys looking for a decent broker I have used several previously and my personal experience for each is listed below...
Hi Addict,
I already read many post of you. Thanks a lot, for your comprehensive feedback!
  • #11,488
  • Mar 29, 2010 6:50am Mar 29, 2010 6:50am
Quoting vic_elc
Both ks and the Kumo act the same , as long as we have flat line below or in front of the PA we must take care of it , what do you think , shall i explain further ??!!!

That's make sense now. Will try to implement this rule in my trading. Will revert back to you some time.

Thanks a lot.

Regards
  • #11,489
  • Mar 29, 2010 7:03am Mar 29, 2010 7:03am
Quoting // speculare
Hey Vic, I'm happy to see you again!

How do you think about this example:
All signals are given. We had a strong trend, it was consolidating and now it slowly continious the trend. The Kj is flat and remains flat until we have a new HH or the periods of the LL's go behind the 26 periods (so the midpoint of the HH/LL would go up). If the Ts crosses the Kj, we have a full signal, but a flat Kj.

What do you think? I feel, it's not a strong signal, if the cross has flat lines.
we had a ts Ks cross to the down side which means that market is pressing down , in this case we better wait till the price jump again above Ks

but looking on the big picture i can see that Ks 4hrs started to look flat which support a correction move before another up move also the daily still looking flat and the Cs is inside the kumo which means we are in a resistance level

good luck
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  • #11,490
  • Mar 29, 2010 7:04am Mar 29, 2010 7:04am
anyone for a short usd/cad 1H, ( sorry, dont know how to post charts).
  • #11,491
  • Mar 29, 2010 7:06am Mar 29, 2010 7:06am
Quoting 4xAddict
Hi All,

Hope 2010 has been profitable so far!

Fantastic to see this thread continuing to provide great discussion for nearly 800 pages - nice work Vic.

Have been out of the market now since late Nov early Dec due to my annual vacation but have been continuing to stay abreast of what is happening in the world and will be back trading again in the next week or so.

For those of you guys looking for a decent broker I have used several previously and my personal experience for each is listed below:

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mate nice to have u back , hope u did enjoy ur longgg vacation
will have some talk veryy soon

cheers mate
  • #11,492
  • Mar 29, 2010 7:16am Mar 29, 2010 7:16am
Quoting TonR
anyone for a short usd/cad 1H, ( sorry, dont know how to post charts).
H1 and D1 looks good, but in H4 is kumo-support
You can post your charts with attachments and upload
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  • #11,493
  • Mar 29, 2010 7:22am Mar 29, 2010 7:22am
Quoting TonR
anyone for a short usd/cad 1H, ( sorry, dont know how to post charts).
Hi TonR!

For myself this trade might be interessting, if the Pa declined until 1,0145 and is cloudfree. I would also stay aside, until the Cs confirms this signal.

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  • #11,494
  • Edited 7:37am Mar 29, 2010 7:24am | Edited 7:37am
Oli, you were faster than me!
  • #11,495
  • Mar 29, 2010 7:33am Mar 29, 2010 7:33am
Quoting // speculare
Hi TonR!

For myself this trade might be interessting, if the Pa declined until 1,0145 and is cloudfree. I would also stay aside, until the Cs confirms this signal.

http://speculare.net/forexfactory/0035.png
The PA of the last 3 hours on the hourly all seem to be struggling. Theres also a flat top kumo on the hourly ahead to consider.
  • #11,496
  • Edited 7:47am Mar 29, 2010 7:36am | Edited 7:47am
Thanks for your Feedback, Vic!
I decided to stay aside, until the Cs is outside the Kumo. So far I didn't pay attention to the Cs in all higher TF, when I was scalping, but in the future I will take care about the Kumo plus Cs confirms the trend.

Quoting vic_elc
we had a ts Ks cross to the down side which means that market is pressing down , in this case we better wait till the price jump again above Ks

but looking on the big picture i can see that Ks 4hrs started to look flat which support a correction move before another up move also the daily still looking flat and the Cs is inside the kumo which means we are in a resistance level

good luck
  • #11,497
  • Mar 29, 2010 7:49am Mar 29, 2010 7:49am
Weekly and 4hr chart of Aud Index
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  • #11,498
  • Mar 29, 2010 8:00am Mar 29, 2010 8:00am
Quoting Osman
Weekly and 4hr chart of Aud Index
  • #11,499
  • Mar 29, 2010 8:17am Mar 29, 2010 8:17am
thanks for your feedback, I am grteful for your help. Stillhaving some trouble getting my head round it all.
  • #11,500
  • Mar 29, 2010 8:18am Mar 29, 2010 8:18am
guys am sorry but i have to leave now , have some meetings to follow

i'll be here again tomorrow during london session
please trade safe and dun rush any entry and choose the most safe one

good luck
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