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  • #521
  • Mar 20, 2010 2:46am Mar 20, 2010 2:46am
Quoting octomanoak
I thought so, but my bots did not close on friday at the appointed local time. Or am I misunderstanding the intent of the closehour setting when close on friday is enabled true?
I have not seen this because I am always out on Fridays at the appointed time. I will look at the code and see if I can spot anything wrong.

Here is a thought. Are you sure they did not shut down? They should not send fresh trades after the Friday close, but should continue to manage open trades for half-close etc.

Thanks for the offer to write the pdf. I really appreciate this; the doc will be a great help to new comers.

  • #522
  • Mar 20, 2010 3:27am Mar 20, 2010 3:27am
Good morning, I've been really busy for the last 2 days so I've not been monitoring as much as usual. anyway last night my 3 demo accounts which have been left to there own devices are showing the following results.

1. £5000 opened 4/3/10 with MA MACD on EURUSD & GBPUSD & 5Min MoMo on the same pair ( using 0.o2 lots ) plus Scooby Doo BOJ basket original v2.4. (0.01 lots )

By close of markets last night this account was up £36.11p with no open trades.

2. £5000 opened 15/3/10 and loaded with BS 2 MA MACD Combo Multipair No Alerts (0.02 lots ) Up £43.61 but with open trades running a loss of -£45.80. This running loss is comprised basically of 2 trades which were opened before the S/L issue I commented on in post #456 and your response in # 463 which Steve and Peejawk sorted.
Without these 2 rogue trades it would be up around £47 with no open trades.

3. £5000 opened 15/3/10 loaded with BS 5Min MoMo multi pair ( on 18/3/10 ) on 15 pairs 0.02 lots and maximum trades allowed = 15

By close of business last night this was showing a profit of £ 27.24 with no open trades.
This was an excellent performance from 2 days trading.

Anyone trading these bots should understand the results hopefully, as trying to post a picture is way beyond me and anyway there are that many trades going on I wouldn't know where to start !!

I still feel the option to close a trade fully in the 5 Min MoMo would produce a better return as the second half of the trade rarely keeps going in your favour to the extent that it recovers what you could have taken by closing completely in the first instance and use the MA MACD to follow the bigger trades. But that's just me, anyone else with any strategic ideas or observations out there ?

I'm looking forward to next weeks trading and will set up an Asian Breakout account to see how that goes.

Thanks to all once again.
  • #523
  • Mar 20, 2010 4:49am Mar 20, 2010 4:49am
Quoting Rascacio
I still feel the option to close a trade fully in the 5 Min MoMo would produce a better return as the second half of the trade rarely keeps going in your favour to the extent that it recovers what you could have taken by closing completely in the first instance and use the MA MACD to follow the bigger trades. But that's just me, anyone else with any strategic ideas or observations out there ?
That is a lovely set of results. I am starting to really enjoy these robots.

This paragraph set me thinking, so I loaded up the last 3 days into my history tab.

The attached script allows you to analyse by

 

  1. magic number
  2. search string. The default is "from" because the comment field of my Alpari UK demo starts with this when the trade is the remaining half of the original.
  3. 'ProfitPoint' defaults to $1 and is the point that divides the trades into two groups: those that retraced to <$1 and those that continued to>=$1.

On my account, at 0.02 lots per trade, the script shows:

 

  1. <$1 profit at close: 37 trades: profit $17.45
  2. >=$1 profit at close: 18 trades: profit $38.45


Not sure what this proves and am not logical enough to work out whether closing the entire trade would have been more profitable. Have a play with the script and see what you think.

This is taking a loooooooonnnnnnnngggggggggg time to type. I set the Sky box to record the Test match from Bangladesh and have it playing in the background. When I hear something interesting happen, I turn around, rewind the recording and watch it. Tamim has torn into the England bowlers and I keep on having to turn round to watch. Hard life.

Back to this; I can easily add the option to close the full trade instead of half-close. Would you like this? Or shall we leave it a week and see what we think? 'tis the work of seconds if you want it.

Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 Show From history trades.mq4   2 KB | 262 downloads
  • #524
  • Mar 20, 2010 5:02am Mar 20, 2010 5:02am
[quote=SteveHopwood;3569406]That is a lovely set of results. I am starting to really enjoy these robots.

Back to this; I can easily add the option to close the full trade instead of half-close. Would you like this? Or shall we leave it a week and see what we think? 'tis the work of seconds if you want it.[quote]

I'm easy and will go with the flow. Just wondering if anyone else has an opinion.

I'm looking forward to next weeks trading, things are looking good.

Does the script go in the script folder ?, sounds daft but just checking !! I hate it when I drop one and it takes ages to find out where I've dropped it !!
  • #525
  • Mar 20, 2010 5:06am Mar 20, 2010 5:06am
[quote=Rascacio;3569416][quote=SteveHopwood;3569406]That is a lovely set of results. I am starting to really enjoy these robots.

Back to this; I can easily add the option to close the full trade instead of half-close. Would you like this? Or shall we leave it a week and see what we think? 'tis the work of seconds if you want it.
Quote

I'm easy and will go with the flow. Just wondering if anyone else has an opinion.

I'm looking forward to next weeks trading, things are looking good.

Does the script go in the script folder ?, sounds daft but just checking !! I hate...
Yes.

  • #526
  • Mar 20, 2010 5:53am Mar 20, 2010 5:53am
Just a quick comment. I loaded your script on the 5Min MoMo Multi Pair and checked the results.

72 trades closed in profit.
47 for less than $1
25 for more than $1

From looking at the results (not in massive detail as yet ) the first closure is always more than $1 and the second more often than not is less than $1.

Take for example this one trade as an example.

05.56 GBPUSD open sell 0.02
06.15 close half 0.01 for £1.06
06.21 close 2nd half 0.01 for £0.24p

This is by far the commonest scenario. A full close would have doubled the initial profit to i.e £2.12p

Checking through all the results will take some time but from your script it would appear that trades closed at less than $1 are second half trades which if closed with the original half trade close would have made all the trades closed above $1. Does that have some logic to it ! I hope so.

Maybe when the cricket is over you could add the full close option as you suggested and we can give it a whirl next week.

I look forward to anyone else's ideas or comments.
  • #527
  • Mar 20, 2010 7:17am Mar 20, 2010 7:17am
Quoting Rascacio
Maybe when the cricket is over you could add the full close option as you suggested and we can give it a whirl next week.

I look forward to anyone else's ideas or comments.
Done, and uploaded to post 1.

  • #528
  • Mar 20, 2010 8:08am Mar 20, 2010 8:08am
Nice one Steve. I'm ready for a new weeks trading now. Let's see what it brings.
Oops meant to ask is the BEP 10 meant to be 100 for 5digit crims as in earlier version ?
  • #529
  • Mar 20, 2010 10:24am Mar 20, 2010 10:24am
Quoting Rascacio
Nice one Steve. I'm ready for a new weeks trading now. Let's see what it brings.
Oops meant to ask is the BEP 10 meant to be 100 for 5digit crims as in earlier version ?
No. It is responding to this suggestion at http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=508.

  • #530
  • Mar 20, 2010 10:47am Mar 20, 2010 10:47am
Quoting SteveHopwood
Here is a thought. Are you sure they did not shut down? They should not send fresh trades after the Friday close, but should continue to manage open trades for half-close etc.
So the setting is not intended to close all open trades on Friday so there are no open trades over the weekend? Then maybe it was working as you intended.

Quoting SteveHopwood
Thanks for the offer to write the pdf. I really appreciate this; the doc will be a great help to new comers.

Happy to do it. Seems a minor contribution considering the contributions of all the great minds and coders here. I'll start on it March 29. I'm thinking of one guide that covers all the robots since there is so much common to the BS-inspired bots. What do you think?
  • #531
  • Mar 20, 2010 11:20am Mar 20, 2010 11:20am
wow these systems look great! can't wait to demo test these. I'm still a noob to automated trading but hopefully the setup guide will help me get my feet wet since I dont know much about getting things set up. I've been trading for almost 2 years but its been completely manual
  • #532
  • Mar 20, 2010 11:33am Mar 20, 2010 11:33am
Apologies if this is a daft question i'm not a newbie but struggling to work this out as i'm not in Steves class when it comes to computers !

When I click on the attachments link to download the various robots/indicators in post 1, I can open the files for the robots and indicators but the top two files, templates and indicators don't give me that option only to save it then it only saves as an attachment so I can't open them in zip like the others.

Anybody else have this problem and can advise how to resolve?

Many thanks and i'm looking forward to joining the testers.

Regards Schoe.
  • #533
  • Mar 20, 2010 11:39am Mar 20, 2010 11:39am
Quoting schoe
Apologies if this is a daft question i'm not a newbie but struggling to work this out as i'm not in Steves class when it comes to computers !

When I click on the attachments link to download the various robots/indicators in post 1,...
Hi Schoe,

I've not had the problem you describe. Generally you should be able to click on the link, a window should pop up allowing you to open or to save it to your computer. Choose to save it, not open it. It should then download the file to your computer to the folder you tell it to. Once on your computer you should be able to open or unzip as needed. Hope that helps.
  • #534
  • Mar 20, 2010 11:51am Mar 20, 2010 11:51am
Quoting SteveHopwood
No. It is responding to this suggestion at http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=508.

OK Break even + 1 pip is default if set to true.

So we can set how many pips to add i.e BE + 10(0) or 12(0) or whatever you fancy really ?

Am I correct ? Just want to be sure before I let it loose on Sunday night !!
  • #535
  • Mar 20, 2010 11:53am Mar 20, 2010 11:53am
Quoting octomanoak
So the setting is not intended to close all open trades on Friday so there are no open trades over the weekend? Then maybe it was working as you intended.
I can see why you thought that. It is a Friday stop-trading input, not a trade close input.

Quote
Happy to do it. Seems a minor contribution considering the contributions of all the great minds and coders here. I'll start on it March 29. I'm thinking of one guide that covers all the robots since there is so much common to the BS-inspired bots. What do you think?
Yes, I was thinking purely of a guide to common inputs. Trading strategies are described in existing pdf's and users should be downloading the ebooks anyway. Cheers.

  • #536
  • Mar 20, 2010 11:54am Mar 20, 2010 11:54am
Quoting Rascacio
OK Break even + 1 pip is default if set to true.

So we can set how many pips to add i.e BE + 10(0) or 12(0) or whatever you fancy really ?

Am I correct ? Just want to be sure before I let it loose on Sunday night !!
Yep.

  • #537
  • Mar 20, 2010 11:56am Mar 20, 2010 11:56am
Quoting schoe
Apologies if this is a daft question i'm not a newbie but struggling to work this out as i'm not in Steves class when it comes to computers !

When I click on the attachments link to download the various robots/indicators in post 1,...
Sometimes people experiencing this problem can solve it by clicking the paperclip at the top right of the thread and finding the downloads in the Attachments window.

  • #538
  • Mar 20, 2010 11:56am Mar 20, 2010 11:56am
Quoting SteveHopwood
Yep.

Top stuff Steve !!
  • #539
  • Mar 20, 2010 3:33pm Mar 20, 2010 3:33pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
Sometimes people experiencing this problem can solve it by clicking the paperclip at the top right of the thread and finding the downloads in the Attachments window.


Spot on thats sorted it many thanks Steve.

Regards Schoe.
  • #540
  • Mar 20, 2010 5:15pm Mar 20, 2010 5:15pm
Quoting astral77
Please find attached results as of 01:00 GMT today. I was wrong the profit is $92 and not $66 (the results speak for themselves). If analyzing the attached please note the criminal is GMT+2 and please ignore the DD this is due to the fact that I had balance of just over $130 on this account.

Steve, is there a particular reason you are live testing the 5 mm. The results of the tests were not that impressive so I gave up on it.

For us (members of FF) you have been a heaven sent and we should be thanking you. In the last few months you have produced...
Impression result! Do You use default settings?

Best wishes
Elovv
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