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  • #10,041
  • Mar 8, 2010 8:05am Mar 8, 2010 8:05am
just wanted to ask a simple Q. Does anyone knows if it's possiblle to upload om the MT4 charts other than Forex?? like oil, DOW , NASDAQ etc..
  • #10,042
  • Mar 8, 2010 8:11am Mar 8, 2010 8:11am
Hi Forex, your trade looks very interesting.
Monthly - Long
Weekly - Long
Daily - Long
4 hourly - Long but PA under Kijun
1hour - PA is below Kumo. Kumo could present itself as resistence.

Could be a beautiful breakout although I am no expert!

What do others think?

Thanks Ezmai
The things which hurt, instruct! - Benjamin Franklin
  • #10,043
  • Mar 8, 2010 8:13am Mar 8, 2010 8:13am
Quoting eranzusman
just wanted to ask a simple Q. Does anyone knows if it's possiblle to upload om the MT4 charts other than Forex?? like oil, DOW , NASDAQ etc..
you can try mt4 from broco trader.
they have many charts.
Anyone here have a list of the names of the charts in Broco trader? sure would like to find out what are all those available charts.

thanks
  • #10,044
  • Mar 8, 2010 9:02am Mar 8, 2010 9:02am
Quoting forexchi
watching this pair for a possible long trade.
hope to hear your comments.
91.00 is a very strong resistance level, your entry will be around 90.60.

Cloud is flat on the 1hr chart.
On the 4hr chart it broked the Ks went dont, Ks went flat price went up to touch it (rubber band effect) now weŽll see if price goes up or down.

I trade on the 4hr, so if it brakes the 91.00 ill go long, otherwise im not trading it.

Im no expert maybe im wrong, just my view...

BOL !!
Trade Smart
  • #10,045
  • Mar 8, 2010 9:41am Mar 8, 2010 9:41am
Hi All,
I shorted EURAUD @ 13:14 GMT just now.

All TF are bearish from M1 all the way up to W1.
(Notice the ichimoku monitor is showing [Short] all the way in my chart#1.)
I entered when TS cross KS @ M5 just below the cloud, with SL at the top of the cloud. (See Chart #1)
I see it as a good trade, but...

The trade ended in 45min with a loss of -20 pips !? WHY?
The price cut through the cloud in M5. (See Chart #2)

Since it is bearish in all TF, why was it a failure?
Possible reasons:
- it is not a strong cross as it happen at the edge of the cloud.
- KS went flat, lose of momentum
- it reachs the bottom in smaller TF
- ...

Anyone could help to point out any things I might have over-looked, just to learn from mistake and to avoid in future.
Thanks.
Leo
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  • #10,046
  • Mar 8, 2010 9:45am Mar 8, 2010 9:45am
I want to be part of your group and i am just a newbie so i need all ur support. Thanks for ur great work.






Quoting ichi360
thats the way bro




My suggested rule:

1. Demo on multiple accounts and blow them to the zero level
2. Finally when things start making sense to you, try becoming organized and challenge yourself to double at least 3 Demo Accounts
3. However the above (point 2) should not be done with a Gambling approach, this must be done with a proper Money Management and Risk Management strategy ... standard is Never risk more than 2% of your account size on one single trade
4. Once you've been able to double 3 Demo accounts, open a live account...
  • #10,047
  • Mar 8, 2010 10:24am Mar 8, 2010 10:24am
This is to leo88, you over looked double bottom on your chart in addition to flat kijun
  • #10,048
  • Mar 8, 2010 10:27am Mar 8, 2010 10:27am
You over looked double bottom and flat kijun on your chart



Quoting leo88
Hi All,
I shorted EURAUD @ 13:14 GMT just now.

All TF are bearish from M1 all the way up to W1.
(Notice the ichimoku monitor is showing [Short] all the way in my chart#1.)
I entered when TS cross KS @ M5 just below the cloud, with SL at the top of the cloud. (See Chart #1)
I see it as a good trade, but...

The trade ended in 45min with a loss of -20 pips !? WHY?
The price cut through the cloud in M5. (See Chart #2)

Since it is bearish in all TF, why was it a failure?
Possible reasons:
- it is not a strong cross as it happen at the edge of the...
  • #10,049
  • Mar 8, 2010 11:16am Mar 8, 2010 11:16am
Hi Eran welcome to this forum, I've seen you on my Blog before but i guess this is the first time you are here


Try Broco or ALTrade or ICM

these three are good, Broco has got so much other stuff too such as CFDs and Bonds etc


Quoting eranzusman
just wanted to ask a simple Q. Does anyone knows if it's possiblle to upload om the MT4 charts other than Forex?? like oil, DOW , NASDAQ etc..
  • #10,050
  • Mar 8, 2010 11:30am Mar 8, 2010 11:30am
Quoting ichi360
Hi Eran welcome to this forum, I've seen you on my Blog before but i guess this is the first time you are here


Try Broco or ALTrade or ICM

these three are good, Broco has got so much other stuff too such as CFDs and Bonds etc
Hi Asher , hows trading group developement going on man ?
  • #10,051
  • Mar 8, 2010 11:49am Mar 8, 2010 11:49am
Quoting Ezmai
Hey OliverPip, thanks so much for your feedback.
I am confused though! Do I have the right settings on my MT4 platform? I am using 9,26 and 52.
My chart looks very different to yours.
If my inchimoku indicator settings is correct, I have the following setup:-
1. The chikou span line (purple) is below the price action and not above the kumo.
2. The kijun-sen line (dotted blue) is below the kumo.
3. The tenkan-sen line (red) is also below the kumo.
4. Finally, both the KS and TS lines have crossed beneath the kumo.

Is this not an idea sell signal?...
Your signal is OK - don't worry!

You have and 5. reason- candlesick on the right place.

For me the problem is the R:R Stop/take profit - 1:1. I think, that is not good.

Settings are OK too. The differenz by the 4-hour-charts come from the different time zone of the brockers - they have different closehours and closeprices of the bars.

Good luck!

here is my chart
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  • #10,052
  • Mar 8, 2010 12:14pm Mar 8, 2010 12:14pm
Thank you Happy, I was beginning to worry. I even contemplated downloading another version of MT4. Hope you have had a good day.
I have managed 86 pips today. A huge thanks to all and Vic (Asher).

I love Ichimoku

Thanks Ezmai.
The things which hurt, instruct! - Benjamin Franklin
  • #10,053
  • Mar 8, 2010 12:34pm Mar 8, 2010 12:34pm
Quoting ichi360
Hi Eran welcome to this forum, I've seen you on my Blog before but i guess this is the first time you are here


Try Broco or ALTrade or ICM

these three are good, Broco has got so much other stuff too such as CFDs and Bonds etc
I tend to visit your blog on a daily basis and it helps me a lot.
and this is my first visit in this forum which seems to be very educational and helpfull.
thanks a lot for your quick reply, i appreciate it
  • #10,054
  • Mar 8, 2010 12:41pm Mar 8, 2010 12:41pm
hi guys.
i just thought that i could go long on eu again if it finds support somewhere on/in/near kumo. what do u guys think?
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  • #10,055
  • Mar 8, 2010 1:00pm Mar 8, 2010 1:00pm
hey Guys,
I happend to find that the Directional Movement indicator that is shown in Asher's figures (in his blog) in the Prorealtime charts that he uploaded, is very helpful in timing when to enter/exit. Is there a parallel indicator that exists also in the MT4?
  • #10,056
  • Mar 8, 2010 6:59pm Mar 8, 2010 6:59pm
Quoting fx_oracle
You over looked double bottom and flat kijun on your chart
hi oracle,
Thanks for your reply.

I leant a few things in this failing trade:
- all TF in sync is not everything
- strong signal in the direction is more crucial in entry
- s/r will prevent the tend (I find this hard to determine/see from the chart, do we need to determine the s/r from higher TF?)

If anyone have other advice, I'm all ears to learn...

Leo.
  • #10,057
  • Mar 8, 2010 8:49pm Mar 8, 2010 8:49pm
Hi Guys,

I'm a nubie at forex. I use ichi360 TS for my trading. I want to ask to senior here. For example like on GBPUSD yesterday when the market in sideway condition and the price ranging. What the best strategy for that condition. I usually trading on M5 TF. Is that possible or what the best TF I can use when using ichi360 TS. Should I change a setting for tenkan sen, kijun sen, senkou span B. Please give me an advice. Thanks before.
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  • #10,058
  • Mar 8, 2010 10:54pm Mar 8, 2010 10:54pm
Sounds goods . i would wish for some flexibility for those who might already be trading mini lots on live acc. i'm past the gambling mentality altho i wish to enhance my know-how on quick scalping on lower TF.

Good to see your initiative semed to have gotten lots of feedbacks from new posters on this thread. Hope the community grows!


Quoting ichi360
thats the way bro

My suggested rule:

1. Demo on multiple accounts and blow them to the zero level
2. Finally when things start making sense to you, try becoming organized and challenge yourself to double at least 3 Demo Accounts
3. However the above (point 2) should not be done with a Gambling approach, this must be done with a proper Money Management and Risk Management strategy ... standard is Never risk more than 2% of your account size on one single trade
4. Once you've been able to double 3 Demo accounts, open a live account...
  • #10,059
  • Mar 8, 2010 10:58pm Mar 8, 2010 10:58pm
Hi leo and oracle

good to see unsuccessful trades being posted and being discussed and advised on. If anythg i thought all trades by fellow users are all good from the apparent lack of such post ! whish is why ichi360 idea of a turtle group where such things can be discussed to the zilch is extremely interesting and useful.

I strongly believe that there is alot to refine and learn from such post and it would help all users to refine their application of ichi and resolve doubts in their learning , so keep them coming.

I myself will look through your post in depth when i get home to glean some lessons for myself

Quoting leo88
hi oracle,
Thanks for your reply.

I leant a few things in this failing trade:
- all TF in sync is not everything
- strong signal in the direction is more crucial in entry
- s/r will prevent the tend (I find this hard to determine/see from the chart, do we need to determine the s/r from higher TF?)

If anyone have other advice, I'm all ears to learn...

Leo.
  • #10,060
  • Mar 8, 2010 11:04pm Mar 8, 2010 11:04pm
Hi Guys,

Can someone help me with a MT4 problem. I was trying to use the ichi360V6 monitor on my MT4. However, everytime I apply it on MT4, the program stops responding and shuts down/crashes. I tried using the same on another MT4(with very limited pairs) and it worked fine.
Any suggestions to check/rectify what is the problem with the current MT4?

Thanks
AG
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