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  • #341
  • Mar 5, 2010 6:35am Mar 5, 2010 6:35am
Good Morning All,
I'm a long ways from the house in a pickup truck this AM doing a repair job. The problem is the only things I have with me are a laptop and a Shih Tzu. I can't get to my data until I get back to the house. Hopefully I'll be able to post around 17:00 GMT.

whip
  • #342
  • Mar 5, 2010 8:57am Mar 5, 2010 8:57am
Hi Steve and BS followers,

(sorry for the pun)

Finally up and running the bot just took 2 trade which i don't think fits the strategy.

see att charts (finger crosses)

I just managed to tick the Allow DLL import box. And up she came.
My broker told me i didn't need to tick it! Right!

1. Bot placed a pending order, approx 20 pips above the market price, for the gbpjpy. Way above the two moving averages. (supoosed to be when just crossed 10pips or more. I think 200pips might be tooo much. Bigger chance of being stopped out first. Though this one might turn out a winner. It is not a trade i would take manually at that level.

2. Eurusd bot place a pending order and triggered on a negative MACD bar, but the bar reversed 10 mins later.
So this trade doesn't fit the strategy. The MACD hourly bar must close before the trade gets triggered.
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  • #343
  • Mar 5, 2010 9:09am Mar 5, 2010 9:09am
Also,could someone tell how does the Take Profit works on the 2 MA MACD strategy?

It"s late now. I will check back tomorrow. Night all.

At least now i can help with testing.
  • #344
  • Mar 5, 2010 10:38am Mar 5, 2010 10:38am
Here is my data for yesterday and today combined. Both bots had a wild finish to the morning plus a gif of a trade I can't explain.....

whip

Top gif is trade I can't explain...look at 2 long and 1 short trade in center
middle is macd combo
bottom is 5 min momo
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Attached File(s)
File Type: xls Boris3-5.xls   43 KB | 196 downloads
  • #345
  • Mar 5, 2010 12:26pm Mar 5, 2010 12:26pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
Separate versions of meta trader for each account you want to run concurrently.

Thanks for that Steve. I thought as much but it's nice to know for sure before muddling everything up.
  • #346
  • Edited 9:40am Mar 6, 2010 9:26am | Edited 9:40am
Hi Steve,
After spending the morning reviewing my data I'm now in agreement with astral that we need to drop back a couple of versions on both bots. After checking my files I believe that the 26th on the combo bot and the 23rd on the momo bot are about right and after checking astrals posts I think he agrees with those dates.
I have a copy of the combo bot dated the 13th (pre second position exit repair). I have the file(23rd) for the momo bot.
IMHO we need to nail down their entries before going on. The final answer on this has to be yours and hopefully we get more input from everybody else so we are all on the same page.

Have a great weekend .........whip

P.S. Do you keep a version backup?
  • #347
  • Mar 6, 2010 10:05am Mar 6, 2010 10:05am
Quoting hiredwhip
Hi Steve,
P.S. Do you keep a version backup?
Nope; all I get is a hard drive full of redundant previous versions.

There is no point in going back to any version that had a bug in it. Undoing the waiting for a new candle to start will take about 5 minutes. Do you want me to do this?

  • #348
  • Mar 6, 2010 10:09am Mar 6, 2010 10:09am
Quoting SteveHopwood
Nope; all I get is a hard drive full of redundant previous versions.

There is no point in going back to any version that had a bug in it. Undoing the waiting for a new candle to start will take about 5 minutes. Do you want me to do this?

Hi Steve,
As for me the answer is yes.....But I'd sure like to get a group opinion on this.

whip
  • #349
  • Mar 6, 2010 10:14am Mar 6, 2010 10:14am
Quoting hiredwhip
Hi Steve,
As for me the answer is yes.....But I'd sure like to get a group opinion on this.

whip
I can make it a user option if you like.

  • #350
  • Mar 6, 2010 10:15am Mar 6, 2010 10:15am
Quoting SteveHopwood
I can make it a user option if you like.

Excellent!
  • #351
  • Mar 6, 2010 10:54am Mar 6, 2010 10:54am
Done and uploaded to post 1.

I edited the 5mm code and merely copy/pasted it into the combo, so a bug in one will be a bug in the other. There should not be any bugs as the coding is simple, but I had to interrupt some serious grass-growing watching, so I promise nothing but chaos, confusion and despair.

  • #352
  • Mar 6, 2010 10:58am Mar 6, 2010 10:58am
Quoting SteveHopwood
Done and uploaded to post 1.

I edited the 5mm code and merely copy/pasted it into the combo, so a bug in one will be a bug in the other. There should not be any bugs as the coding is simple, but I had to interrupt some serious grass-growing watching, so I promise nothing but chaos, confusion and despair.

HaHa
Thank you sir.......the word Excellent suits you

whip
  • #353
  • Mar 6, 2010 7:37pm Mar 6, 2010 7:37pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
Done and uploaded to post 1.

I edited the 5mm code and merely copy/pasted it into the combo, so a bug in one will be a bug in the other. There should not be any bugs as the coding is simple, but I had to interrupt some serious grass-growing watching, so I promise nothing but chaos, confusion and despair.

HI STEVE

We are all in your debt for all your hard work. I am attaching the results of the 3min MOMO (not so Hot) and the 2SMA MACD New Version with candle closing. IMHO this 2SMA MACD with plain 10 pip movement placed in 4H TF will be the most promising of the lot. As you saw from my previous post the 4H version had 9 trades with no loss. Although I think that we can not expect such a fantastic result all the time, I guess the win loss ratio will be quite good. I will test the new version for one week and if the results are still promising will move to live testing in a penny account. In 4H TF, 9 trades in 4 days was approximately 2 trades per day which is frequent enough for my taste.

The only improvement I can think of is to make the EA scan various pairs whilst placed on one chart. However, since this would require at least 2 hours of your valuable time, the decision is entirely yours as to if and when this could or should be done.

With great regards
Attached File(s)
File Type: xls 2minmomo1to 6 March2010.xls   147 KB | 256 downloads
File Type: xls 2SMAMACD new version 1 to 6 March 2010.xls   35 KB | 188 downloads
  • #354
  • Mar 6, 2010 11:52pm Mar 6, 2010 11:52pm
Hi,

I have only a few hours of trades that i could post that starts after the NFP on Friday. But both 5 min MOMO and the 2 SMA MACD are in profit.

At this stage i shall onlu comment on the 2 SMA MACD as i have not yet traded the 5 min MOMO.

I believe that the MACD hourly bar must close before taking a trade as it went red during the hour, entered short , then reversed before the hour ended. Hence you do not see the red bar on the chart posted earlier. Net -50 stop out.

Another thought is a safety net that if the MACD reverses back to the previous trend, to automatically close out the trade rather than waiting to get stopped out.

Steve, is there a way of having this robot semi- automatic, where it just send alerts without trading automatically?

Astral, scanning for various pair on the one chart idea sounds wonderful, simply because the trading opportunity are much less frequent.
But i understand the amount of hours and labour involved in this endeavour.
I am just grateful whatever comes from all the energy put into this work.

I will endeavour to get up to speed on trading the 5min momo next week so i can also contribute to that set up.

enjoy the rest of you weekend.
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File Type: doc Go Markets Pty Ltd.doc   66 KB | 313 downloads
  • #355
  • Mar 6, 2010 11:55pm Mar 6, 2010 11:55pm
I will try the attachments again.
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File Type: doc 5min momo.doc   99 KB | 261 downloads
File Type: doc 60min sma macd.doc   66 KB | 240 downloads
  • #356
  • Mar 7, 2010 1:13am Mar 7, 2010 1:13am
I've downloaded 2 more MT4 platforms and am trying to set them up but I've copied the relevant indis to the indi folders OK but when copying the EA's to the expert folder this is what's happened.

Copied MPTM, Reconnect, Scoobs TCF, Scooby 20EMA, Scooby BOJ, and the Holy Grail to the expert folder but when I open the correct platform it only shows the MPTM and Reconnect EA's even though they are all showing in programme files same as usual.

I've redone the procedure 3 times now and still the same results.

Can anyone shed any light please.
  • #357
  • Mar 7, 2010 3:57am Mar 7, 2010 3:57am
Quoting Patanya
Steve, is there a way of having this robot semi- automatic, where it just send alerts without trading automatically?
Done and uploaded to post 1. The relevant input is AlertNotTrade.

  • #358
  • Mar 7, 2010 4:31am Mar 7, 2010 4:31am
I have looked at making the robots multi-pair. It is too complicated.

  • #359
  • Mar 7, 2010 3:59pm Mar 7, 2010 3:59pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
I have looked at making the robots multi-pair. It is too complicated.
Thanks Steve, you have done so much already and these BOTS are master pieces. The alert only is good idea if you are at the PC and can monitor the trades.

Kind Regards.
  • #360
  • Edited 4:31pm Mar 7, 2010 4:07pm | Edited 4:31pm
I spend Sunday travelling around villages in rural England, giving piano lessons to glorious kids in glorious surroundings. It is a wonderful way to spend the day.

On my travels, I realised I had approached the multi-pair thingy in the wrong way, buy trying to adapt an existing single trader to take multiple trades, rather than, say, ADR_OS_OB to take trades here.

I shall look at this again this week.

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