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  • #5,041
  • Jan 26, 2010 8:12am Jan 26, 2010 8:12am
this place has been awfully quiet over past 48 hours. zzz

scoobs, say sthin to enlighten me.
  • #5,042
  • Jan 26, 2010 10:25am Jan 26, 2010 10:25am
Quoting intelmaster
this place has been awfully quiet over past 48 hours. zzz

scoobs, say sthin to enlighten me.
You can't beat the market all of the time.

  • #5,043
  • Jan 26, 2010 10:27am Jan 26, 2010 10:27am
My thoughts

The original and the 24hr Scooby basket trader working very well for me
and I'm going live next week on those.

The TCF is not doing well for me I can't use TCF1 or 2 because I am an American and considered to stupid by my government to hedge ( Land of the Free!)(They also are doing away with 18 months same as cash for TV's and furniture)

DB and RS Simple still testing.

The comments on the forum come in waves
For me right now it is a little confusing trying to test out these different bots. The export to excel file helps a lot in analysis.

If members could post some Account History graphs or reports...
it might help or report back on the following



Name of Broker
Name of Pair
Time Frame
Name of BOT
% of Wins and Losses
Time frame as in . . . for the last 2 weeks . . last week . . . Last month
Also if you have anything other than the main default settings let us know


When I get home I can post what I have experienced....
  • #5,044
  • Jan 26, 2010 10:35am Jan 26, 2010 10:35am
Quoting scooby-doo
Whats up ?
Have just read first post about Steve's latest resolution about this thread. Now i understand why Steve is not "around".

Anyway, it's good to know you are still around. Really hope you can shed some light on my queries.

I really like what's TCF and TCF v2 are doing (without the hedging part since i don't like hedging personally). Below are what i was trying to tell Steve:

"Steve,

Hope you understand my English....

Here's what just happened or rather i just noticed an intelligent behaviour of the EA that can be improved:

I'm using MIG Bank (GMT+1) and i refer to server's time.

At 13:46 a 0.2 Sell Stop TCF1 on EURJPY was triggered and was immediately closed at 13:46 at a loss, maybe due to spread.
At 13:44 a 0.4 Sell Stop TCF2 on EURJPY was triggered and was immediately closed at 13:44 at a loss, maybe due to spread.
At the same time, EA issued 0.2 Buy Stop TCF1 at 13:46 and triggered at 13:50

My only reasoning is that those Sell Stop was issued based on past market conditions and when it was triggered, at the same time, the market condition changed thereby immediately close all triggered (previous) pending orders and issues new pending orders base on current market condition.

Brilliant!

However, if the EA can do the following, i think it is perfect:

When almost (maybe in terms of pips) trigger pending orders, EAs scans the market and decide if previous pending orders are still valid. If yes, leave it. If no, cancel previous pending orders to be replaced by new pending orders according to current market conditions.

Hope it helps..."

I'm not getting any response from him and it seems to stay that way. It's ok.

My question to you are:

1. Have you looked into the coding of TCF and TCF v2?
2. Do you think it's working as per your shared method? I know Steve is using RSI(5) instead of RSI(2). I'm ok with it.
3. Do you think it's ok to go live (i'm aware of the risk involved and i'll be responsible for any consequences for using any versions of TCF live)?
4. From my queries to Steve as above, do you think it's ok to live with it or TCF really needs to address the issue i raised?

Really looking forward to your reply......
福 子 Victor V
  • #5,045
  • Edited 11:59am Jan 26, 2010 10:45am | Edited 11:59am
hi Steve,

still stay in front of this bot to see how it take decision:

to have settings as simple as possible, i've deactivated all except simple rsi, sma : only sell allowed right now.

Right now, EU is OB: 1 sell is taken, well, rsi raise to 83, i'm expecting a 2 sell but nothing.
I wonder if this problem, and the previous i've talk about in an other post, could be related to old data stored in buffers or arrays.

note: coming back from MT4, the 2nd sell is taken (rsi >85) --> data not refreshed in realtime ?

Looking forward for these 2 sell trades: now rsi <20 and the bot have not closed them, does that mean "buy condition" which is in that case the "close condition", be not allowed ?
note: i use rsi 3-weighted
  • #5,046
  • Jan 26, 2010 10:48am Jan 26, 2010 10:48am
I am still here - have been working on another BS bot. I will look into the latest posts later on.

Re TCF 2, I am far from sure it is working correctly.

  • #5,047
  • Jan 26, 2010 12:49pm Jan 26, 2010 12:49pm
Quoting dryclean
The TCF is not doing well for me I can't use TCF1 or 2 because I am an American and considered to stupid by my government to hedge ( Land of the Free!)...
I use ATC brokers here in the USA because the funds are maintained in an FXCM UK account, and the ATC front end utilizes the FXCM UK data feeds. Thus, even though I am an American resident, I still get to hedge my trades whenever/however I like. I recommend you open up a free demo account with them for testing purposes. As an added bonus, their demo accounts never expire on you.

And nope, I'm not affiliated with them in any way, shape or form. Just google them.

Cheers,
Ed
  • #5,048
  • Jan 26, 2010 12:58pm Jan 26, 2010 12:58pm
Quoting dryclean
...The original and the 24hr Scooby basket trader working very well for me and I'm going live next week on those.

The TCF is not doing well for me I can't use TCF1 or 2 ...

DB and RS Simple still testing. ...

I'm with you, so far. The DB and original TCF have experienced large drawdowns, and I've finally terminated testing them. As for TCF1 and TCF2, I have them running in demo, but have not yet seen them take a trade.

It's interesting what you said about the original and 24hr Scooby basket trader. I've not tried them yet, but your comments have spurred me on. Will start testing them right away.

Cheers,
Ed
  • #5,049
  • Jan 26, 2010 1:36pm Jan 26, 2010 1:36pm
Ed

I can run Alpari Uk here in the states too. in demo You can run a number of brokers in demo here but . . . Live you cannot So I don't bother with hedges cause I'm too stupid as defined by the Govt. to be able to do it and they must protect me.

Just like they want to make the leverage 10 : 1

I can't believe you haven't tried the 24 hr or original that is what 90% of this thread is about. They work very nice. Learn how to trade manually so you fully understand it

and for God's sake don't ask about what Time to set it at LOL
  • #5,050
  • Jan 26, 2010 1:38pm Jan 26, 2010 1:38pm
Ed

Just noticed your are from Columbus

O H
  • #5,051
  • Jan 26, 2010 1:53pm Jan 26, 2010 1:53pm
I O !
  • #5,052
  • Jan 26, 2010 2:08pm Jan 26, 2010 2:08pm
I have been running original on FXDD with poor results. As I mentioned earlier, I also ran it for a short while on MB Trading demo, but it behaved strangely (closing some trades immediately after they were opened, but I suspect this was more to do with the nature of MB's demo feed (dire!) rather than a real issue with the bot.

Personally, I am looking forward to Scooby's 3TF 24H bot.
  • #5,053
  • Jan 26, 2010 4:18pm Jan 26, 2010 4:18pm
Quoting dryclean
My thoughts

The original and the 24hr Scooby basket trader working very well for me
and I'm going live next week on those.

The TCF is not doing well for me I can't use TCF1 or 2 because I am an American and considered to stupid by my government to hedge ( Land of the Free!)(They also are doing away with 18 months same as cash for TV's and furniture)

DB and RS Simple still testing.

The comments on the forum come in waves
For me right now it is a little confusing trying to test out these different bots. The export to excel file helps a lot...

Up to this moment the BOJ Original and 24H versions are the ones producing consistent pips. Also the AI is very close to them. DB, RS Simple and Crosspairs have mixed results. The others are waiting for their demo time.

Many pips for you on your live account.
  • #5,054
  • Jan 26, 2010 4:26pm Jan 26, 2010 4:26pm
Yes London.
  • #5,055
  • Jan 26, 2010 4:57pm Jan 26, 2010 4:57pm
That was my fault
I PM him the right hours for EST but said it was Japan time
for the 24 bot
Sorry for confusion
  • #5,056
  • Jan 26, 2010 5:35pm Jan 26, 2010 5:35pm
Quoting enewbold
Ya know, if there's an error on Post #1 instructions, then they should be fixed in order to prevent stuff like this.
Take a HUGE amount of care before posting something like this. I spend a lot of time maintaining post 1. On average, it takes me about 4 times as long to update post 1, upload the robots and post a message letting people know that there are updates as it does to code the robot.

And it is a boring maintenance.

Very boring.

Very, very boring.

And irritating.

So, ask yourself this. Just how irritated do you imagine I feel right now?

Post like this again, and it will be the last post you make in any of my threads.

And yes, trade start and end times for the 24H version were indeed discussed in this thread; that is why they are included. Your fault if you can't find the discussion, not someone else's.
  • #5,057
  • Jan 26, 2010 5:48pm Jan 26, 2010 5:48pm
And, frankly, anybody unfamiliar with the London dead time has little reason to be trading. Such an individual has a shed-load of basic research before even considering trading FX.
  • #5,058
  • Jan 26, 2010 5:49pm Jan 26, 2010 5:49pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
Take a HUGE amount of care before posting something like this. I spend a lot of time maintaining post 1. On average, it takes me about 4 times as long to update post 1, upload the robots and post a message letting people know that there are updates as it does to code the robot.

And it is a boring maintenance.

Very boring.

Very, very boring.

And irritating.

So, ask yourself this. Just how irritated do you imagine I feel right now?

Post like this again, and it will be the last post you make in any of my threads.

And yes,...
I do worry about some people who are trying to trade forex.
  • #5,059
  • Jan 26, 2010 6:04pm Jan 26, 2010 6:04pm
Quoting dryclean
My thoughts

The original and the 24hr Scooby basket trader working very well for me
and I'm going live next week on those.
I have live- traded the Original since early on. There have been loosing baskets but these are more than made up by the winners. All on my eglobal cent account. I am not even testing the 24H version, so I am interested that you are thinking about going live with it. Maybe I should still be testing.

DB is also on this same account. 7 open trades, 7 open hedges, so it will be interesting to see where that little lot goes.

Quote
The TCF is not doing well for me I can't use TCF1 or 2 because I am an American and considered to stupid by my government to hedge ( Land of the Free!)(They also are doing away with 18 months same as cash for TV's and furniture)
Still testing TCF2 and it is not doing especially well. Plus, I am not sure the coding is completely correct.

Quote
RS Simple still testing.
Me too.

The Original took a wave 2 basket a few minutes ago, that closed within 30 minutes. Allied with the Buy basket it took before Tokyo close, that makes a nice +2.5% today. Stuff-all in cash terms, but mountains in terms of progress and hope for the future.

  • #5,060
  • Jan 26, 2010 6:10pm Jan 26, 2010 6:10pm
Quoting camvcvoo
When almost (maybe in terms of pips) trigger pending orders, EAs scans the market and decide if previous pending orders are still valid. If yes, leave it. If no, cancel previous pending orders to be replaced by new pending orders according to current market conditions.
That is a good idea. Leave it with me.

Don't consider going live with TCFx yet. I am not sure the code is correct.

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