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  • #8,401
  • Jan 15, 2010 10:06pm Jan 15, 2010 10:06pm
Quoting ichi360
Just wanted to share the Testing Site with you guys where the Ichimoku Trading Alerts are published.

However, please note that this is still a BETA site and not the final version. Please DO NOT FOLLOW these Trading Alerts as yet, I’m currently busy in developing this application which means there will be a LOT of Alerts generated which might not be correct and just a result of my Applicaiton Testing …

Once the Application is developed, this Test Blog will shut down and a new Site will be online with a Twitter Updates …

http://cloudalerts2.wordpress.com/...
Very goooooooooood Asher, Nice Job. May I have a beg from you. There is time there like : "Alert Generated On: 2010.01.16 01:10" but I don't know it's GMT or server time or ... ? Could you please add information like : "Alert Generated On: 2010.01.16 01:10 GMT" ....
Just a hope ...

Many thanks.
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Good friends are more valuable than gold ...
  • #8,402
  • Jan 15, 2010 10:07pm Jan 15, 2010 10:07pm
greetings

anyone noticed the ichi360 indicator "jumps" ?

I saw a blue box "buy" entry signal appears

5 hours later - the signal moved to the right with a new blue buy signal box with a new entry value

it is normal ?

I thought blue signal only changes to red signal ?

i use 1 hour chart

many thanks
  • #8,403
  • Jan 15, 2010 11:44pm Jan 15, 2010 11:44pm
Though I've replied earlier but I'm posting this one more time so that it can help others in learning what ichi360 indicator does and what it can not do ...

First thing we need to understand is that its just an indicator and not an Exper Advisor. I get interesting requests and ideas from time to time where people would like to see it doing things that they would normally do in their trading strategies but the point to understand is that this particular indicator is not a substitute to LEARNING and CAN NOT (or lets say not supposed to do) the things that a normal Expert Advisor would do.

I still remember questions you posted earlier about this Indicator not telling you when to Exit ... and I really dont understand why do you expect an Indicator to tell you when to Exit, if the Indicators could tell you when to enter and when to exit then what are we all doing here ? why cant we just let all these indicators doing their job while we enjoying playing Golf ... I once again say, there is NO substitute to learning ...

Now back to your question / query. Yes, it might be jumping from one bias to another and that too it could be doing quite fast ... but so does is the Tenkan-Sen vs Kijun-Sen setup as well. Technically (in programming terms), the indicator is doing nothing but trying to detect the greater value among TS and KS. If TS is above KS, its a Blue signal, and if the KS has got over TS its a Red signal ...

Its a simple indicator my friend, nothing like a Rocket Science and its use is even simpler ...


Quoting webforex
greetings

anyone noticed the ichi360 indicator "jumps" ?

I saw a blue box "buy" entry signal appears

5 hours later - the signal moved to the right with a new blue buy signal box with a new entry value

it is normal ?

I thought blue signal only changes to red signal ?

i use 1 hour chart

many thanks
  • #8,404
  • Jan 16, 2010 12:14am Jan 16, 2010 12:14am
Quoting ichi360
Just wanted to share the Testing Site with you guys where the Ichimoku Trading Alerts are published.

However, please note that this is still a BETA site and not the final version. Please DO NOT FOLLOW these Trading Alerts as yet, I’m currently busy in developing this application which means there will be a LOT of Alerts generated which might not be correct and just a result of my Applicaiton Testing …

Once the Application is developed, this Test Blog will shut down and a new Site will be online with a Twitter Updates …

http://cloudalerts2.wordpress.com/...
ONE QUESTION !!!!


if suppose We are going on range market many Time that happened On 1 hour chart at least for 3 day period for long but the ichimoku never give a right level of buy and selling and if the Price of ichi is still go on on under the cloud so there were no Signal and the same thing happened the ichimu TS KS Crossover give a Fails Signal as well the Kumo break out is just will be Fake.. and The misunderstood still Go on ..I mean this see One Example what i just Consider about if you make a signal that can give a bad signal as well in range Market for SURE
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  • #8,405
  • Jan 16, 2010 12:40am Jan 16, 2010 12:40am
Vincy,

This time you jumped the gun a bit with too much of excitment. And let me tell you that you've missed the whole point here..

Tell me, did you visit the site I posted ? did you have a look at the ABOUT Section, did you read the last section there ????

In simple terms, this is NOT A SIGNAL service ... please try to understand. there are a lots of Signal Services out there (mostly dont work). This is just a page that finds potential opportunties for us ...

Simple ... isnt it ?

Quoting vincy balboa
ONE QUESTION !!!!


if suppose We are going on range market many Time that happened On 1 hour chart at least for 3 day period for long but the ichimoku never give a right level of buy and selling and if the Price of ichi is still go on on under the cloud so there were no Signal and the same thing happened the ichimu TS KS Crossover give a Fails Signal...
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  • #8,406
  • Jan 16, 2010 12:55am Jan 16, 2010 12:55am
Quoting ichi360
Vincy,

This time you jumped the gun a bit with too much of excitment. And let me tell you that you've missed the whole point here..

Tell me, did you visit the site I posted ? did you have a look at the ABOUT Section, did you read the last section there ????

In simple terms, this is NOT A SIGNAL service ... please try to understand. there are a lots of Signal Services out there (mostly dont work). This is just a page that finds potential opportunties for us ...

Simple ... isnt it ?
hehe hi Ash

hehe not at all.. i havn't been there .. Now i am in LIBRARY and just reading, but i just have question in my mind thats why i pit point............


BUT ASH ALL IN ALL........No ichimoku EXPERT CAN GO ENTRY ON FLAT MARKET




BTW my bad
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  • #8,407
  • Jan 16, 2010 12:57am Jan 16, 2010 12:57am
Quoting ichi360
Where are you from ? If you're in US I would recemmond CitiFX and if in Australia you might want to try AxisODL
I,m with Axis dont use them the spreads are terrible and order exercution is slow and i almost always get slipped.
  • #8,408
  • Jan 16, 2010 1:01am Jan 16, 2010 1:01am
Quoting ichi360
Though I've replied earlier but I'm posting this one more time so that it can help others in learning what ichi360 indicator does and what it can not do ...

First thing we need to understand is that its just an indicator and not an Exper Advisor. I get interesting requests and ideas from time to time where people would like to see it doing things that they would normally do in their trading strategies but the point to understand is that this particular indicator is not a substitute to LEARNING and CAN NOT (or lets say not supposed to do) the things...
Hello Asher, I guess I should have asked you that question and not kino, anyway I was not using the indicator before but yesterday I saw what kino was doing and attached the ichi360 to GY, it basically gave a signal 6 bars after the KS cross. then I applied it to different pairs and it gave the signal immediately after the cross.
my question is, now that I have read your answer above, this is just an alert of TS/KS cross or is it a coincidence that it is also signalling at the same time of the KS cross?
the other thing I've noticed is that the tick value for all the yen pairs is 1000, whereas for all the others it's 10, is this a bug in the calculation?
thanks for all your efforts, the new alert system is a good idea but as you said it needs to be clear that it is not a recommendation for a trade and even then you will still find people who will jump on any given alert, nothing you can do about it, it's human nature
  • #8,409
  • Edited 1:25am Jan 16, 2010 1:12am | Edited 1:25am
Quoting DannyW
I,m with Axis dont use them the spreads are terrible and order exercution is slow and i almost always get slipped.
Just wanted to add, in my opion i believe that market makers are not worht trading with and a lot of them dont have fixed spreads anymore.
I have held live accounts with 5 different MM over the last few years and none of them outperform my ECN broker MB trading i now only trade with.
MBT also have micro accounts on all pairs
  • #8,410
  • Edited 2:35am Jan 16, 2010 1:58am | Edited 2:35am
Quoting DannyW
I,m with Axis dont use them the spreads are terrible and order exercution is slow and i almost always get slipped.
Hi Danny,

Thanks for this Information. I will check the speed first. It's faster to connect to the Planet (server in USA) than to Australia, when we are in Indonesia. I think another of Asher's tips (citifxpro.com) is not a bad choice, trying with demo account fisrt ... Thanks Asher.

Danny,
MBTrading is also fast ... low spread, but there is commission (depend on lot size, but not so big) ...
Thanks Danny.

- pedma -
Good friends are more valuable than gold ...
  • #8,411
  • Jan 16, 2010 1:59am Jan 16, 2010 1:59am
"The history repeat itself"
note: I use 9,17,26 Setting I do not ask any one to use it it is your own choice
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  • #8,412
  • Edited 2:42am Jan 16, 2010 2:14am | Edited 2:42am
Quoting pedma
Hallo Acher,

Many thanks for your information. I'm in Indonesia. There is one has branch in Indonesia : http://instaforex.com/ , but forexpeacearmy rating it as SCAM .

I will see your recomendation. Many thanks.

Best Regards,
- pedma -
Whatever broker you choose, as a starter, I suggest you shouldn't open any account with brokers registered under CFTC. Here is why I don't recommend that for you:

http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-...forex-usa.html

CFTC is just too much in imposing ridiculous rules and regulations to the US broker.

For your easy reference, go to these links and have a window shopping first and choose wisely if you've satisfied with any of them:

http://www.100forexbrokers.com/mt4forexbrokers

http://www.earnforex.com/

p/s My apology to Moderator if this is off topic. Just trying to help our member in this thread
  • #8,413
  • Jan 16, 2010 2:41am Jan 16, 2010 2:41am
Quoting Adipati
Whatever broker you choose, as a starter, I suggest you shouldn't open any account with brokers registered under CFTC. Here is why I don't recommend that for you:

http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-...forex-usa.html

CFTC is just too much in imposing ridiculous rules and regulations to the US broker.

For your easy reference, go to these links and have a window shopping first and choose wisely if you satisfied with any of them:

http://www.100forexbrokers.com/mt4forexbrokers

http://www.earnforex.com/

p/s...
Many thanks Adipati, I will look at it.
To Vic & others. sorry too .... but as beginner, I really need this information. This is one of our success variable also , I think ... (if we choose the right broker) ...

Thanks
- pedma -
Good friends are more valuable than gold ...
  • #8,414
  • Jan 16, 2010 3:36am Jan 16, 2010 3:36am
Hi lbtrader,

This must be a co-incidence as the ichi360 indicator has no functionality to look / search for KS Breakouts, it only works on TS/KS Crosses.

In terms of wrong values shown for Yen Pairs, I'm not sure why its doing that. I can only guess it might be something to do with your Broker as I can see the correct Tick Value on my platform as shown in attached image.



Quoting lbtrader
Hello Asher, I guess I should have asked you that question and not kino, anyway I was not using the indicator before but yesterday I saw what kino was doing and attached the ichi360 to GY, it basically gave a signal 6 bars after the KS cross. then I applied it to different pairs and it gave the signal immediately after the cross.
my question is, now that I have read your answer above, this is just an alert of TS/KS cross or is it a coincidence that it is also signalling at the same time of the KS cross?
the other thing I've noticed is that the tick...
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  • #8,415
  • Jan 16, 2010 3:42am Jan 16, 2010 3:42am
Danny,

I'm actually surprised with your complaint regarding the Spreads with AxisODL. I'm currently with IGMarkets and also have a live account with AxisODL. I found Axis's spreads much better than IGMarkets.

Also, I've never had any slipps or execution problems.

Their spreads on SPI-ASX200 futurs index is the lowest in market IMO ...


Quoting DannyW
I,m with Axis dont use them the spreads are terrible and order exercution is slow and i almost always get slipped.
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  • #8,416
  • Jan 16, 2010 3:46am Jan 16, 2010 3:46am
Thats a nice suggestion Pedma ... I'll see how to get GMT time value from MT4.


Quoting pedma
Very goooooooooood Asher, Nice Job. May I have a beg from you. There is time there like : "Alert Generated On: 2010.01.16 01:10" but I don't know it's GMT or server time or ... ? Could you please add information like : "Alert Generated On: 2010.01.16 01:10 GMT" ....
Just a hope ...

Many thanks.
- pedma -
  • #8,417
  • Edited 4:22am Jan 16, 2010 3:47am | Edited 4:22am
Quoting ichi360
Hi lbtrader,

This must be a co-incidence as the ichi360 indicator has no functionality to look / search for KS Breakouts, it only works on TS/KS Crosses.

In terms of wrong values shown for Yen Pairs, I'm not sure why its doing that. I can only guess it might be something to do with your Broker as I can see the correct Tick Value on my platform as shown in attached image.
Thanks Asher for the reply, I don't know what is the reason but here's my screenshot, it's almost identical to yours except for te tick value. If it is my broker then all the other pairs should have the same problem is it not?
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  • #8,418
  • Jan 16, 2010 3:50am Jan 16, 2010 3:50am
Vincy my friend ... here goes my answer:

1. I know and I agree with your point. That is why we're NOT TRYING to generate any signals and why should we ??? why not to learn Ichimoku properly so that we do not rely on Signals

2. Question is that if Ichimoku CAN NOT give you Entry points in FLAT MARKET then can other systems do this ??? which system actually works on FLAT MARKET ? I think none so why are we criticizing on Ichimoku only ?

Quoting vincy balboa
BUT ASH ALL IN ALL........No ichimoku EXPERT CAN GO ENTRY ON FLAT MARKET
  • #8,419
  • Jan 16, 2010 3:52am Jan 16, 2010 3:52am
Actually I just found a problem in my Broker as well ... in my platform I found ZERO as the tick value in GBPJPY ...

thats quite weird ...

BTW, it has nothing to do with the Indicator, its just a simple line of code in MT4 which tries to read the Tick Value of the pair.

Quoting lbtrader
Tanks Asher for the reply, I don't know what is the reason but here's my screenshot, it's almost identical to yours except for te tick value. If it is my broker then all the other pairs should have the same problem is it not?
  • #8,420
  • Jan 16, 2010 4:02am Jan 16, 2010 4:02am
Quoting vic_elc
am using FXSOL

fxsol.com

you can check them with NFA also

they are good
Hi Vic,

Thanks. Do they have MT4 ? I cann't find it at their website.
And as I typed: fxsol.com, it redirected me to fxsolutions.com.
Is that the broker do you mean ?

Thanks.
- pedma -
Good friends are more valuable than gold ...
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