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  • #201
  • Edited 5:09am Dec 24, 2009 5:04am | Edited 5:09am
Quoting xard777
Hi there Gann Grid Group,

I been skimming through the thread and came across this indicator...Sq of 9 to add to my existing gann setup.

The indicator is fine for 1hr charting, but Gann mentioned that for swing charting to use two day charts so I made some slight adjustments to the Sq of 9 indy and was wondering if anyone could tell from looking at the chart if it was ok or not.

Any info much appreciated.

thanks and all the best

Xard777
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Typical Xard777 work to say the least. It seems to be OK, Xard but would you mind sharing it with me so that I can compare it to mine, which I posted. Interesting to see that Gann looked at a 2-Day-period which I was unaware of.

Is the little "SUN" the "3_level_ZZ_Semafor"? And if it is, does it not bother you that it keeps on moving away from you until it finally anchors and then it may be too late?

Wishing you also a Blessed Christmas.
Hercs
  • #202
  • Dec 24, 2009 7:38am Dec 24, 2009 7:38am
Quoting Hercs
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Typical Xard777 work to say the least. It seems to be OK, Xard but would you mind sharing it with me so that I can compare it to mine, which I posted. Interesting to see that Gann looked at a 2-Day-period which I was unaware of.

Is the little "SUN" the "3_level_ZZ_Semafor"? And if it is, does it not bother you that it keeps on moving away from you until it finally anchors and then it may be too late?

Wishing you also a Blessed Christmas.
Thanks for the quick reply,

All I changed really was the factor from 0.14 to 0.56

and I put the lines to the back

and yes, it is 3 level ZZ semafor, and yes it repaints like mad, but I do not use it that way.

I enclose a pdf which mentions Gann 2 day swing chart

Xard777

PS I am still trying to decide which to use, the sq of 9 or murrey...see pic

PPS sorry, if I am drifting away from GGG, it is not intended
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  • #203
  • Dec 24, 2009 8:07am Dec 24, 2009 8:07am
Quoting xard777
Thanks for the quick reply,

All I changed really was the factor from 0.14 to 0.56

and I put the lines to the back

and yes, it is 3 level ZZ semafor, and yes it repaints like mad, but I do not use it that way.

I enclose a pdf which mentions Gann 2 day swing chart

Xard777

PS I am still trying to decide which to use, the sq of 9 or murrey...see pic

PPS sorry, if I am drifting away from GGG, it is not intended
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Xard, thank you for this quick response. I am eternally grateful to you for sending this to me. I follow you on the other Forum with great interest as well, but there I use a pseudonym.

Your MM seems to be very different to mine hence my abandoning it much to my displeasure. (Murrey_Math_Line_X_eng)

Drifting away from this abandoned Thread is no problem at all. I will let you know how I find the new settings on the Gann indicator.

I am very interested to hear how you apply the Semafor and we can continue that discussion any other way if you wish.

Best regards.
Hercs
  • #204
  • Dec 24, 2009 11:02am Dec 24, 2009 11:02am
Quoting Hercs
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Xard, thank you for this quick response. I am eternally grateful to you for sending this to me. I follow you on the other Forum with great interest as well, but there I use a pseudonym.
Hi Herc,

The Gann Sq of 9 has always intrigued me and your version of the indicator is really nice however, I have decide to go with the murrey indy as after all, it is also a Gann Grid system but with more visual aid as to overbought/oversold and 50% level. My research into price has brought me full circle back to Gann and as such I have been on the lookout for any Gann related stuff which led me to this thread on one of my searches.

I have posted a full version of the Gann D2 Swing Chart Trading at my usual stomping ground should you want it.

Thanks again

Xard777
  • #205
  • Dec 28, 2009 1:07am Dec 28, 2009 1:07am
Quoting xard777
Hi Herc,

The Gann Sq of 9 has always intrigued me and your version of the indicator is really nice however, I have decide to go with the murrey indy as after all, it is also a Gann Grid system but with more visual aid as to overbought/oversold and 50% level. My research into price has brought me full circle back to Gann and as such I have been on the lookout for any Gann related stuff which led me to this thread on one of my searches.

I have posted a full version of the Gann D2 Swing Chart Trading at my usual stomping ground should you want...
Much appreciate your reply. See you there.

Always a pleasure dealing with you.
Hercs
  • #206
  • Jan 12, 2010 12:35am Jan 12, 2010 12:35am
Hi Herc,

I was going through my indicator archive when I came across this version of Gann Sq of 9 and I thought you might be interested in it.

You do not have to manually input high or low figures as it does it all automatically as it recalculates off the last leg of the zigzag.

Hope it is of some use to you.

All the best

Xard777

PS if you improve on this indicator I would appreciate it if you post it here...thanks
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  • #207
  • Jan 12, 2010 1:44am Jan 12, 2010 1:44am
Quoting xard777
Hi Herc,

I was going through my indicator archive when I came across this version of Gann Sq of 9 and I thought you might be interested in it.

You do not have to manually input high or low figures as it does it all automatically as it recalculates off the last leg of the zigzag.

Hope it is of some use to you.

All the best

Xard777

PS if you improve on this indicator I would appreciate it if you post it here...thanks
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Good morning Xard,

Thank you very much. I will certainly look at it today still and let you know.

I also have Gann SQ9 Price levels_version3 and 4 but let me first compare this one and those 2 and I will gladly post it for you.

Much appreciate you.
Hercs
  • #208
  • Jan 13, 2010 8:28pm Jan 13, 2010 8:28pm
hi guys
why the lesson is stopped?
  • #209
  • Jan 14, 2010 11:56am Jan 14, 2010 11:56am
Quoting Hercs
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Good morning Xard,

Thank you very much. I will certainly look at it today still and let you know.

I also have Gann SQ9 Price levels_version3 and 4 but let me first compare this one and those 2 and I will gladly post it for you.

Much appreciate you.
Hi Herc,

Can you post Gann SQ9 v4 for me...

Thanks

Xard777
  • #210
  • Jan 19, 2010 8:03am Jan 19, 2010 8:03am
Quoting xard777
Hi Herc,

Can you post Gann SQ9 v4 for me...

Thanks

Xard777
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Hi Xard,

Apologies for not having seen your post. Herewith the requested indicator.

I like the one you sent me - am running it continuosly since.
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File Type: mq4 Gann SQ9 Price Levels_version-4.mq4   7 KB | 2,358 downloads
Hercs
  • #211
  • Jan 19, 2010 8:42am Jan 19, 2010 8:42am
Quoting Hercs
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Hi Xard,

Apologies for not having seen your post. Herewith the requested indicator.

I like the one you sent me - am running it continuosly since.
Thanks for the v4 indy.

Re the previous indy that I posted, I think the default setting was 18, if running on a 1hr chart I like to use a setting of 60 so that you get main trend turns.

All the best

Xard777
  • #212
  • Jan 19, 2010 8:49am Jan 19, 2010 8:49am
Quoting xard777
Thanks for the v4 indy.

Re the previous indy that I posted, I think the default setting was 18, if running on a 1hr chart I like to use a setting of 60 so that you get main trend turns.

All the best

Xard777
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Thanks Xard,

I just changed it to 60 and cannot believe the difference it made. Much appreciate you sharing with me.

Best to the best,
Hercs
  • #213
  • Jan 20, 2010 8:10am Jan 20, 2010 8:10am
Finally something I like. There is no subjective trend line drawing. Me, being the engineer have tough time with subjective and “free” thinking. Can you imagine if your hart operation team would have different subjective opinions on what exactly they have to do, right in the middle of your hart operation?. You would not like it I guess!!!

Does brake of the positive/negative line means close above/below the line or just price action gets above/below line.
I have problem with a grid. If there is no certain angle between the positive and negative line, the grid can be drawn in different ways. I think someone has mentioned that 45 degrees is required in order to have proper grid.
Please help with this as you can se there are different grids in same place on my pictures.

Thanks.
Sasa
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  • #214
  • Edited 7:01am Jan 21, 2010 6:50am | Edited 7:01am
Hi Gann-Experts!

In the last days I read an interesting old book: "The Ultimate Breakthrough in Market Turning Point Detection" from Jeffrey Cuddy.

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Description of The Ultimate Breakthrough in Market Turning Point Detection

The 'first of its kind' unique trading book introduces the author's specialized turning point detection method, known as PAMA - the Pivotal Area of Market Analysis. Using a small but powerful arsenal of new technical techniques, PAMA monitors the market daily, then steps up its analytical focus when a potential turn zone is detected. Once that Pivotal Area is confirmed (which is done in real time) the method turns to eight conclusive price patterns and two original charting techniques to identify the ideal entry or exit day for your trade. The accuracy of PAMA's trade signals - recently described as 'coming close as is humanly possible to calling every major pivot point' - is unparalleled.

Jeff Cuddy's presentation of the PAMA Method is laid out in precisely the same sequence as his original creation (and subsequent application) of this brilliant trading idea.

- In Section I the inner working so the system are spelled out - each rule, price pattern and chart-based technique.

- Section II pits PAMA against the stock market. Walk-through examples illustrate the method and action trading the Dow from 1987 to 1995 (a period in which PAMA nearly doubled the return of 'buy and hold'.)

- Section III concludes the book with a detailed analysis of PAMA applied to Jeff Cuddy's current area of interest - the futures markets.
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- I have tried to programe the draw of grids with using the default GridGann in Metatrader. It seems that the indicator is resource-intensive...
If it gives visual problems with the grids, redraw the indicator.
In this first version the grid is static (do not change for new bars).

- The main grid has per default 35 squares between the high and low of the analysis interval. With this formula, we have for every pair the same visual scale for trend analysis! Also the space between the GannGrids is default 8.
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  • #215
  • Jan 23, 2010 5:45am Jan 23, 2010 5:45am
Quoting SwingMan
Hi Gann-Experts!

In the last days I read an interesting old book: "The Ultimate Breakthrough in Market Turning Point Detection" from Jeffrey Cuddy.

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- I have tried to programe the draw of grids with using the default GridGann in Metatrader. It seems that the indicator is resource-intensive...
If it gives visual problems with the grids, redraw the indicator.
In this first version the grid is static (do not change for new bars).

- The main grid has per default 35 squares...
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Thank you for this insight Swingman; much appreciated. I see that his Book is available through Amazon and I will certainly grab a copy today.

Just by looking at the chart after I loaded it from your Template, it seemed "meaningless" to me other than the analysis in the top left hand corner. Are you therefore saying that these analysis here will give us the correct information in terms of turning points?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Best regards.
Hercs
  • #216
  • Edited 5:53am Jan 23, 2010 5:50am | Edited 5:53am
Quoting sasavisnic67
Finally something I like. There is no subjective trend line drawing. Me, being the engineer have tough time with subjective and “free” thinking. Can you imagine if your hart operation team would have different subjective opinions on what exactly they have to do, right in the middle of your hart operation?. You would not like it I guess!!!

Does brake of the positive/negative line means close above/below the line or just price action gets above/below line.
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Sasa,

Without any disrespect, just as your surgical team described, you too have to re-read the first couple of Posts by the author. He made it quite clear from where the GG should be drawn. I have shown in this Thread that by selecting the incorrect point of origin, one can actually get a very different picture.

Your drawings are certainly not accurate as far as I can see, but then you have chosen to cut it off. Try using a compacted chart first and show me your starting points and I will try to assist you.

For one, you have not shown your ACTIVE downward leg neither upward leg. Find that first based on the first few Posts by the author.

Sadly the author no longer visits and I have no idea why not, but he has taught me enough to be able to trade with the GG.

Looking forward to hearing from you.
Hercs
  • #217
  • Jan 23, 2010 6:39am Jan 23, 2010 6:39am
Quoting Hercs
Are you therefore saying that these analysis here will give us the correct information in terms of turning points?
Thanks Hercs!

Have you read my last analysis with version 3.1 in the Trading Sytem thread? This is the way to identify the turning points. Maybe help you and you can contribute with other ideas.
  • #218
  • Mar 26, 2010 8:36pm Mar 26, 2010 8:36pm
Quoting Hercs
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Hi Hercs,

Can you have a look at this indicator...it was a simply fibo-pivot 1,2,3 sup/res but I decided to expand on it to 1,2,3....11,12 sup/res.

What I want to know is this the best way to use the fibo expansion or is there another variation for me to use???

All the best & thanks for your time

Xard777
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File Type: mq4 #4X 2010 Fibo-Grid X12.mq4   7 KB | 1,996 downloads
  • #219
  • Apr 24, 2010 6:44am Apr 24, 2010 6:44am
Quoting xard777
Hi Hercs,

Can you have a look at this indicator...it was a simply fibo-pivot 1,2,3 sup/res but I decided to expand on it to 1,2,3....11,12 sup/res.

What I want to know is this the best way to use the fibo expansion or is there another variation for me to use???

All the best & thanks for your time

Xard777
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Hi Xard,

Apologies for the lateness of my reply.

I will check your indicator and come back to you. Also attached is my favourite Fib and Extension indicator. You have to select the number of pips before it will change direction; I have found 100 to be suitable.

Let me know if this meets with your requirements.

Best wishes.
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File Type: mq4 ICWR COLOR-EXT-Goen.mq4   15 KB | 1,672 downloads
Hercs
  • #220
  • Edited 3:05am Apr 27, 2010 3:01am | Edited 3:05am
Quoting xard777
Hi Hercs,

Can you have a look at this indicator...it was a simply fibo-pivot 1,2,3 sup/res but I decided to expand on it to 1,2,3....11,12 sup/res.

What I want to know is this the best way to use the fibo expansion or is there another variation for me to use???

All the best & thanks for your time

Xard777
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Hi Xard,

Happy to report that your indicator has now become a permanent fixture on my charts. What I like about it is the fact that it moves with the candles (well done) and its accuracy remained intact.

Check for levels 112.5% Fib and 76.4% as well as 50%. These levels on the GBP/USD at least have become very significant over the past 2 years.

If you are keen on reading up on the use of Fibs, I will highly reccommend Joe DiNapoli's book and also a chapter in Dr. Connie Brown's book called "Techical Analysis for the Trading Professional".

Wishing you continued success.
Hercs
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