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  • #4,801
  • Jan 8, 2010 3:21pm Jan 8, 2010 3:21pm
something is going down

we see dj wekly 3 back move up on no demand

2 days I see FAZ bear etf on banks with stopping vol at 17... could be nice play to 22

today I wee GS 4 hour ..... RUN FOR THE DOORS AT 178


SOMETHING IS COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE

usd could be flight to safety...
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  • #4,802
  • Jan 8, 2010 4:59pm Jan 8, 2010 4:59pm
This is interesting. Speaking of VSA.
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  • #4,803
  • Jan 9, 2010 4:35am Jan 9, 2010 4:35am
Quoting tarco
This is interesting. Speaking of VSA.
same thing i have seen in youtube video by tradeguider.

it seems as buying climex as i have editeg the chart.
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  • #4,804
  • Jan 9, 2010 7:28am Jan 9, 2010 7:28am
Quoting tarco
VSA traders are killing it today!! GU,UJ,EU,Gold

And yes I missed all of them.


Here is a good Gold example...
Hi all,
I don't trade gold but do Vsa in my own way. I was missing a lot of trades and I also noticed different color bars on my 4 screens from the same broker ????
Because of this I searched for some confirmation signals and found that these mixed with VSA work extremely well for me.

Of course there are many roads that lead to Rome and I am humbled by the likes of Malcolmb and Driver55 just to name a few who have honed their skills to an enviable point.

I get my lead with two cycle indicators on M30 that are my earliest sign ( well you can actually use an M1 and M5 for a precise entry - risky though) combined with a Stoch div alert. If I have all my colors lined up, mfi, atr etc all ready to blow, and this all fits in with the bigger picture on H4 resistance wise and Value Area wise I look to trade.

I have attached a chart just for interest sake of that gold spike and what I would have seen. Yeh I know it's messy-I just can't do it naked because I have kids to feed and I need to get it more right than wrong.

You will notice some telltale vsa signs just prior to the big bang. Moments like that I wish I was into gold. Can we turn the clock back please, I have some longs to put on.

Cheers.
ps.
Yes some of the signals repaint but never all at once and you only need to wait for a bar close on smaller tf's too feel confident.
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  • #4,805
  • Jan 9, 2010 8:00am Jan 9, 2010 8:00am
I have compared several volume chart with the better volume indicator.

But there is something that scares me: e.g. on ActivTrades the volume chart looks different to the Alpari chart and the volume bars get different colors when professionals become active.

I am wonder whether my volume charts are reliable at all.

Which volume data is reliable that you can come to conclusions which can help in trading?
  • #4,806
  • Jan 9, 2010 11:46am Jan 9, 2010 11:46am
Quoting Centaure
I have compared several volume chart with the better volume indicator.

But there is something that scares me: e.g. on ActivTrades the volume chart looks different to the Alpari chart and the volume bars get different colors when professionals become active.

I am wonder whether my volume charts are reliable at all.

Which volume data is reliable that you can come to conclusions which can help in trading?

Sometimes You have to spend money to make money!!! You can always
sign up with esignal service and use their esignal GTIS forex data feed
(200+). That could put your mind at ease or if you prefer using futures
volume. Again..lol...gotta sign up for that.

AS for the colors on the bars--i think those are alittle bit overrated--can't
tell you how many times i have spotted high volume upbars without the red
climatic bar showing up. That Doesn't stop my analysis of the trade.

and if you really want to compare volumes, i say is better to compare
your setup signals--high vol, test, NS, ND, sellin pressure , buying pressure and the rest--are they close?
  • #4,807
  • Jan 9, 2010 12:08pm Jan 9, 2010 12:08pm
What's up with the volume?

http://i45.tinypic.com/5yus7m.png

I'm using IBFX
  • #4,808
  • Jan 9, 2010 1:33pm Jan 9, 2010 1:33pm
Quoting taomql4
Sometimes You have to spend money to make money!!! You can always
sign up with esignal service and use their esignal GTIS forex data feed
(200+). That could put your mind at ease or if you prefer using futures
volume. Again..lol...gotta sign up for that.

AS for the colors on the bars--i think those are alittle bit overrated--can't
tell you how many times i have spotted high volume upbars without the red
climatic bar showing up. That Doesn't stop my analysis of the trade.

and if you really want to compare volumes, i say...
When I understood you correctly then you mean I should concentrate more on the volume at my setup signals and use VSA in my advantage.
And it is not so important which color the candle has.

OK, in my attachment there are several charts of different timeframes from 2 different brokers.
I ask you to judge these charts, especially on the volume and whether one of these data feeds is useful to analyze it with VSA.
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  • #4,809
  • Jan 9, 2010 1:41pm Jan 9, 2010 1:41pm
Quoting lolpie
What's up with the volume?



I'm using IBFX

I don't know but my IBFX looks different ... Is yours demo? sometimes the data is different in demo...
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  • #4,810
  • Jan 9, 2010 1:46pm Jan 9, 2010 1:46pm
lol brooky .. messy but if it works

the long gold was seen moments before news

also annotated charts for balance of trades after news

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Quoting brooky29
Hi all,
I don't trade gold but do Vsa in my own way. I was missing a lot of trades and I also noticed different color bars on my 4 screens from the same broker ????
Because of this I searched for some confirmation signals and found that these mixed with VSA work extremely well for me.

Of course there are many roads that lead to Rome and I am humbled by the likes of Malcolmb and Driver55 just to name a few who have honed their skills to an enviable point.

I get my lead with two cycle indicators on M30 that are my earliest sign ( well you can actually...
Blogging daily now at www.volume.zone
  • #4,811
  • Jan 9, 2010 4:09pm Jan 9, 2010 4:09pm
Centaure;

I understand why your worried, I was there myself until the clarity set it.

The volume you are getting is most likely fine. The question you need to ask yourself when comparing data is, can you see the difference between SM coming into the marketplace or not.

That is the only thing we need the volume for. If the average volume is 1000, the last few bars at 900 to 1200, and the volume goes to 6000 that points to SM. Now if that 6000 was 5000 or 10,000, the information gained and the actions taken are no different. You have extreme high volume when COMPARED to the background (chart history) on YOUR data feed.

You can cross check your data feed to see IF your able to identify SM volume changes sooner with one feed over another.

Regards,
BR

Quoting Centaure
I have compared several volume chart with the better volume indicator.

But there is something that scares me: e.g. on ActivTrades the volume chart looks different to the Alpari chart and the volume bars get different colors when professionals become active.

I am wonder whether my volume charts are reliable at all.

Which volume data is reliable that you can come to conclusions which can help in trading?
  • #4,812
  • Jan 9, 2010 4:34pm Jan 9, 2010 4:34pm
Quoting Centaure
When I understood you correctly then you mean I should concentrate more on the volume at my setup signals and use VSA in my advantage.
And it is not so important which color the candle has.

OK, in my attachment there are several charts of different timeframes from 2 different brokers.
I ask you to judge these charts, especially on the volume and whether one of these data feeds is useful to analyze it with VSA.
Not too sure what you want me to look at . But i can still see some Good setups that i would have taken. Like Big1 said, to really compare volume, You really have to compare setups....
BOY.. that would require some serious backtesting OR You can sign up with FXPRO( very Good),
if you like to use mt4. i also use Fxcm mt4 platform.

Those are the only two i use for mt4!!
  • #4,813
  • Jan 9, 2010 4:52pm Jan 9, 2010 4:52pm
Quoting rbumbalough
Trade Guider VSA webinar at Infinity Futures

http://www.infinityfutures.com/videos/52709liveVSA.wmv
Did anyone manage to record today's webinar?

I left a screen capture program running but when I came back to view the recording it crashed and deleted it
  • #4,814
  • Jan 9, 2010 4:57pm Jan 9, 2010 4:57pm
Quoting lolpie
Did anyone manage to record today's webinar?

I left a screen capture program running but when I came back to view the recording it crashed and deleted it

they are recording it. I am in the webinar now
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  • #4,815
  • Jan 9, 2010 5:12pm Jan 9, 2010 5:12pm
Quoting malcolmb14
they are recording it. I am in the webinar now
Sorry I meant a download link to the whole thing, I'm in it now but it looks like they're just going over special offers and stuff
  • #4,816
  • Jan 9, 2010 5:16pm Jan 9, 2010 5:16pm
Quoting lolpie
Sorry I meant a download link to the whole thing, I'm in it now but it looks like they're just going over special offers and stuff

to be honest the whole thing was not that educational if you already know about vsa . it was more of a sales job
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  • #4,817
  • Jan 9, 2010 5:47pm Jan 9, 2010 5:47pm
Quoting malcolmb14
to be honest the whole thing was not that educational if you already know about vsa . it was more of a sales job
Most of those types of thing are geared toward sales.
One most put up with the sales BS & pick out the nuggets that are contained within.

Just my 2 cent worth.
I trade what I see on my charts. Do Not listen to the Muppets.
  • #4,818
  • Jan 9, 2010 7:07pm Jan 9, 2010 7:07pm
Quoting Big1red9
Centaure;

I understand why your worried, I was there myself until the clarity set it.

The volume you are getting is most likely fine. The question you need to ask yourself when comparing data is, can you see the difference between SM coming into the marketplace or not.

That is the only thing we need the volume for. If the average volume is 1000, the last few bars at 900 to 1200, and the volume goes to 6000 that points to SM. Now if that 6000 was 5000 or 10,000, the information gained and the actions taken are no different. You have extreme...
Thanks, for the response.
I think this is the important criteria to select the right data feed. I just check which one is easier for me.

But on the first view the right one seems better, because it is more lively.
But I have to test it for some days to get a proper feeling.
  • #4,819
  • Jan 9, 2010 7:17pm Jan 9, 2010 7:17pm
Quoting taomql4
Not too sure what you want me to look at . But i can still see some Good setups that i would have taken. Like Big1 said, to really compare volume, You really have to compare setups....
BOY.. that would require some serious backtesting OR You can sign up with FXPRO( very Good),
if you like to use mt4. i also use Fxcm mt4 platform.

Those are the only two i use for mt4!!
OK. I just need to try to get practical experience with other brokers to judge which one is good for my strategy.
Maybe it is a different one for another strategy.
  • #4,820
  • Jan 10, 2010 6:00am Jan 10, 2010 6:00am
Quoting malcolmb14
eisgnl cpiked up the stopping volume 5 min gj earlier at 138 loud and clear ... mt4 there was no volume spike there
I've beem monitoring MT4 on an alpari demo account versus esignal and this situation seems to happen quite frequently, especially on the more important bars.

I guess one thing to remember that MT4 will usually show broker specific tick volume, whereas esignal shows it across the whole 'market'. I would guess that the smaller volume in each broker makes it easier to manipulate the figures.
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