The alternative method (50 pip candles)

It seems that...in any case...the 25pips candles give better results...

c speed,i think the martingale in your tester is not right.
in you tester, martingale is:
Standard Lot size = 1
1st loss, Lot size = 2
2nd loss, Lot size = 4
3nd loss, Lot size = 1
4nd loss, lot size =1
5nd loss,lot size =1
.
.lot size is always 1 after 3nd loss.
.

but martingale in alternative method ,also in 50pip oringal and evolution method is:
Standard Lot size = 1
1st loss, Lot size = 2
2nd loss, Lot size = 4
3nd loss, Lot size = 1
4nd loss, lot size =2
5nd loss,lot size =4
.
.
following loss lot alway repeat 1,2,4

right???
sorry for my english, but i think i made it clear

sam

Thanks for pointing that out! I've fixed it.

so does the php. tester told us this method is not useful? it doesnt seems to be accurate.

How is it not accurate?

i see the beginning of this yr. which is on january. the lots does not double aft a loss. mayb u can look into that?

means
1lot loss
2 lot loss
4 lot loss
1 lot loss
2 lot win
but the testing write 1 lot win only.

I'm not seeing where there is a Win with 2 Lots in January.

In the Orders row:
Red = Lose
Green = Win

ya.. ok take the 7th order of january for example.
it shud be 4 lots. should not be 1 lot

on the 16th entry it shud be 2 lots instead of 1 lot also

Price:
+ - - + - - -
Orders:
+ - + - + + -
Lots:
1 1 2 4 1 2 1

1: 1 Lot = Win, stay at 1 lot
2: 1 Lot = Win, stay at 1 lot
3: 1 Lot = Lose, double to 2 lots
4: 2 Lots = Lose, double to 4 lots
5: 4 Lots = Lose, Reset back to 1 lot (max is 3 consecutive losses)
6: 1 Lot = Lose, double to 2 lots
7: 2 Lots = Win, Reset to 1 lot

Makes sense?

I think you're confusing which are WINNING orders and which are LOSING orders.

Red = LOSE
Green = WIN

+ - - + - - ?
Orders:
+ - + - + + -
Lots:
1 1 2 4 1 2 4

u wont know ur 7th lot is a win before it actually won. so u still have to place a 4 lots there and u win that if its negative. or did i get it wrong?

The lots shown is AFTER you already know the results. Refer to my post above.

but in the real case. you will double the lot first? but ur testing is u noe the result then u enter the lot is it?

I'm not sure what you're asking, but if you read post #189, you should understand how it works.

okok i get what u meant already sorry. it was my mistake haa.

No problem I know, it gets confusing hehe Try writing the code for it!

hi guys
i think there is a big difference between zebulon' and c-speed' results
from 1-12-2009 to 17-12-2209

zebulon got 1000 pips and c-speed just got 400 pips


is there any mistake????

cos zebulon's 50pip chart start with RGGG...... , and c-speed chart start with GGG...

I don't know how is realible c-speed test but if you test with 25 pips the results are amazing:

Testing Dates From: To:
Pair: GBP/USD Zebulon 25GBP/USD Zebulon 50GBP/USD Zebulon 100GBP/USD Zebulon 200EURO/USD Zebulon 25EURO/USD Zebulon 50 Use Martingale (Reset Lot on # straight loss):

Price Sequence (21,667 Candles): Hide

Results:

No of G/R Candles: 10,750 / 10,917 (49.61%)
Wins: 10,772
Losses: 10,895
Win Pips: 504,375
Lose Pips: 437,200
Net Pips: 67,175

Most consecutive Wins: 12
Most consecutive Losses: 12


Frequency of Consecutive Losses:
12: 3
11: 2
10: 4
9: 11
8: 11
7: 31
6: 82
5: 125
4: 260
3: 459
2: 1835
1: 3189


The best think wuold be have an EA to test te method with MT4 and to know how to use money management.

Lubo.

Hi Traders,

have been following the thread and found some interesting ideas. So I'd like to contibute some of mine.

First of all: the "march" through the charts could use some improvement. The change between up-trend (+) and down-trend (-) seems random to me, without any logic. Apparently it works fine, but maybe it would work better if the market would tell in which direction to trade.
My suggestion is to look at the last 3 signs and decide to trade in the direction of their majority.
Example:

Market

+/-/+ Majority (2 out of 3) is + ---> next trade + (up)

-/+/- Majority is - ---> next trade - (down)

-/-/+ Majority is - ---> next trade -

You get the picture.
You can stretch that to all prime numbers, but I wouldn't go further than 5 or 7 direction symbols (= + or -) at maximum. The longer the look back period, the longer this "march" will need to change the direction of your trades.
Play with it a little.

Next idea is inspired by "Colombino" in Post #99 (http://tinyurl.com/y8ndleq), especially the link to this one:

http://www.win-maxx.com/basics/basics_dalem_str.html

Play with it, you'll see how smooth this progression grows. You also can play with it:
You don't need to use 5 consecutive losses to go to the next higher layer. I'm testing with 3 right now, and it looks promising.
This progression also allows to experiment with the layers. Why not using 5 losses in a row in the first layer, but only 4 in the next, and 3 in the following? Three is minimum, in my opinion. Or vice versa: 3 in the first, 4 in the second and max. 5 in the following...

And last (for today):

If you consider to try progressions, don't only look at your lot-size ! You also can increase your bets by the percentage you want to risk per trade.
Simple martingale example:

1 - 2 - 4 - 8

If you interpret those numers as lot size, then most of you will back off. Understandably.
By looking at those numbers as UNITS you'll get another picture. If ONE unit is only 0.25 % of your account, then this sequence will read:

0.25 - 0.5 - 1 - 2 in %

As you can see this in not as frightening as before.

However, there is one more thing I have to say:

Merry X-mas and a relaxed New Year to all traders and the Forex Factory team.

Thanks for all the fish !