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  • #4,461
  • Dec 21, 2009 2:44am Dec 21, 2009 2:44am
yes, because on futures 60m often complete a whole swing so you do not get a chance to enter. i keep daily and 60m in mind for trendchannel purposes but for intraday trading is use 15/3m or 10/2m. 15/10 to pick my desired sign and then the 2/3m to get a confirmation.

in d i am referrring to the organge dashed line. to be honest, with experience in terms of orderflows it often is not just an area, you can nails those levels by +- 5 pips.

with boeing dreamliner= new airplane by boing finnaly released, i was talking about prices going higher.


Quoting supremeChaos
i know nothing about futures..
do u mean here (it's ideal) to enter futures on a lower or a higher timeframe (than 60m)?

in your chart, u say
A. "we assume a smart guy bought here..."
C. "test + buy .... = Boeing Dreamliner"
D. "history ALWAYS matters... 3rd test of this level & take off"

in D., with level are u referring to A. (smart guy buying area)? also the level tested (YELLOW dotted line) is a zone, not a specific price, correct?
in C., Dreamliner means what? touch down?

Thanks Sir!
  • #4,462
  • Dec 21, 2009 3:09am Dec 21, 2009 3:09am
Quoting Ace
Can you post a chart of what to look for when breaking thru support/resistance
...
i think the answer is in your previous post

Quoting Ace
...
...support, are you looking for high volume on wide spread down bars?....
opposite for a resistance.


open to corrections from others if necessary...
  • #4,463
  • Dec 21, 2009 3:18am Dec 21, 2009 3:18am
Quoting Dr.Geppynius
yes, because on futures 60m often complete a whole swing so you do not get a chance to enter. i keep daily and 60m in mind for trendchannel purposes but for intraday trading is use 15/3m or 10/2m. 15/10 to pick my desired sign and then the 2/3m to get a confirmation.
...
Thanks a lot for your insight on this.

Quote
...to be honest, with experience in terms of orderflows it often is not just an area, you can nails those levels by +- 5 pips.
Understood & Agreed.
  • #4,464
  • Dec 21, 2009 4:16am Dec 21, 2009 4:16am
Dr.Geppynius,

Thanks very much for your advice. I'll keep my chart naked until further notice!

SilverKnight
  • #4,465
  • Dec 21, 2009 5:48am Dec 21, 2009 5:48am
Dear All,

I think this is it for me for 2009. I came a long way till here and this is still nowhere. A year ago I did no nothing of trading. Today I am the BE trader at best and I am happy that one nice day in few years I will be the trader of a slowly steadily growing account. I will recollect all I read and learned this year and can start 2010 fresh. I know I did not contribute extremely much to the thread and for that I appologize. Lately I have no time to trade intraday at all....can not wait to come back!

I also thank you for all your hard work here. Rest assured it was not for nothing.

I wish you all a succesful 2010 with lot positive pips!
Kind Regards zol
  • #4,466
  • Dec 21, 2009 5:54am Dec 21, 2009 5:54am
zoli, b/e is more than half the way you need! many need 4,5,6 years to evolve, others quit it.

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Quoting zoli
Dear All,

I think this is it for me for 2009. I came a long way till here and this is still nowhere. A year ago I did no nothing of trading. Today I am the BE trader at best and I am happy that one nice day in few years I will be the trader of a slowly steadily growing account. I will recollect all I read and learned this year and can start 2010 fresh. I know I did not contribute extremely much to the thread and for that I appologize. Lately I have no time to trade intraday at all....can not wait to come back!

I also thank you for all your hard...
  • #4,467
  • Dec 21, 2009 6:16am Dec 21, 2009 6:16am
our channels are still in play.
eur once failed the demand line from the rend channel from below. notice the 3 lows i marked- 1st stopping attempt, then the second with a selling climax and the third which is a HIGHER low. that's the most important part and showing that bulls might be back in the game and push us back into the red channel. if we come through the 4350 area, which is a cluster of resistance ( previous highs, red channel demand line, blue channel supply line) this would indicate true strength to me and we have a good chance to go on travelling to the downside in our well established red channel. i am still waiting for a retest of the breakout level 4500.
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  • #4,468
  • Dec 21, 2009 6:32am Dec 21, 2009 6:32am
we have arrived at the station. of course we get high volume here. it is now our job to see if this were signs of absorbtion or if the selling was too big. i am closely watching my 2m now for potential entries to the downside.
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  • #4,469
  • Dec 21, 2009 7:33am Dec 21, 2009 7:33am
i am short eur futures 4363. stop is b/e now. resistance area well respected. second occurence of massive potential shorting took place. i never enter on the first time seeing such action.

if eur gets supported, i will rapidly bail because of the strength (bottoming action i showed on previous screenshots) behind us.

before entering any trade you should really have set up your beloved channel with it's quartiles.
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  • #4,470
  • Dec 21, 2009 8:55am Dec 21, 2009 8:55am
i am still in my eur short which needed some time to develop which is ok. the fact, that the upmove stalled hours before the ny floor session is a indication to me that we might turn around without paying attention to vsa.

also note the red triangles which nicely show thrusts. especially the third triangle which shows that the thrust hit the same area, alsmost to the pip like the first thrust. one of my favourite patterns.

see the yellow box and realize that during my whole trade we have not had 2 consecutive 10m upbars. if we had a upbar it was immediately followed by a downbar. also the previous highs have mostly been respected. in terms of orderflows this needs to be done to support a move and stay in control. in case i do get 2 upbars in a row i am out of this trade- except if i have good reasons to think the second upbar was dumped.
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  • #4,471
  • Dec 21, 2009 8:59am Dec 21, 2009 8:59am
it seems that i am the host here today without any participation. who will pay my bill?
  • #4,472
  • Dec 21, 2009 9:03am Dec 21, 2009 9:03am
Quoting Dr.Geppynius
it seems that i am the host here today without any participation. who will pay my bill?
Who started the thread?
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I trade what I see on my charts. Do Not listen to the Muppets.
  • #4,473
  • Dec 21, 2009 9:09am Dec 21, 2009 9:09am
Quoting Dr.Geppynius
i am still in my eur short which needed some time to develop which is ok. the fact, that the upmove stalled hours before the ny floor session is a indication to me that we might turn around without paying attention to vsa.

also note the red triangles which nicely show thrusts. especially the third triangle which shows that the thrust hit the same area, alsmost to the pip like the first thrust. one of my favourite patterns.

see the yellow box and realize that during my whole trade we have not had 2 consecutive 10m upbars. if we had a upbar...

Nice call on Short...

Sonic
  • #4,474
  • Dec 21, 2009 9:39am Dec 21, 2009 9:39am
Nice trade Dr. G. I was following along with GU same type of pattern formed and a successful short.
  • #4,475
  • Dec 21, 2009 9:48am Dec 21, 2009 9:48am
Quoting Dr.Geppynius
ibefore entering any trade you should really have set up your beloved channel with it's quartiles.
Channels have got to me the most underrated tool I have seen to date. After reviewing your posts and going back and testing them, I feel silly not to have had them on my chart. Channels have been a break through for me. Again Thanks for your posts.
  • #4,476
  • Dec 21, 2009 9:57am Dec 21, 2009 9:57am
Quoting malcolmb14
are you for real ?

DR G is the master of vsa and my mentor ..

what do you really know of vsa .. and why are you posting in this forum ... you are completely wrong......

go back and read master the markets 20 times , and trade with 90% accuracy and then come tell the guy that really was why this thread started how to trade vsa

He taught me .. i passed it on to Shamus and now we have guys like you telling us how to trade vsa .... what a joke.
DEAR FRIEND malcomb.

This is PUBLIC DISCUSSION(THREAD)
I GUESS THIS THREAD IS TO LEARN SOMETHING FROM EACH OTHER.
SO I POST MY OPINION TO DR.G AND HE CORRECT ME, I APPRECIATE IT.

THIS IS NOT COMPETITION ABOUT GOOD TRADERS OR BAD TRADERS BUT ABOUT LEARNING SOMETHING OR YOU HAVE SOME DIFFERENT AIM ??

ANYBODY HERE CAN POST SOME ANALYSIS AND SOMEBODY CAN WROTE HIS OPINION THEN SOME MORE EXPERIENCES TRADERS CAN CORRECT THIS PEOPLE AND THEN WE ALL CAN LEARN FROM IT.
BUT INSTEAD OF THIS YOU JUMP AND SCREAMING LIKE A BEAST OR LITTLE CHILD.

I REALLY DONT KNOW WHY YOU HAVE THIS ANGRY TONE TO ME I WROTE IT IN NORMAL FRIENDLY HUMAN LANGUAGE AS ANYBODY ELSE.

SO IF YOU ARE ANGRY OR YOU HAVE BAD DAY PLS DONT POST SOME COMMENTS LIKE THIS.


THANKS
  • #4,477
  • Dec 21, 2009 10:14am Dec 21, 2009 10:14am
@adrian its comments like these that will chase away the generous people teaching and posting charts/analysis from the thread. without DG and malcolm showing the way we'd be without current examples and thoughts.
i hope all the negativity just gets ignored
  • #4,478
  • Dec 21, 2009 10:37am Dec 21, 2009 10:37am
GU is at a key support level look at higher volume in background. I am not sure what it is going to do though.

What does everyone think?
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  • #4,479
  • Dec 21, 2009 10:53am Dec 21, 2009 10:53am
Here are buyers coming in at TL bottom and 1.6050. It would be nice to see a test in this area now.

I am still learning VSA. These charts are just for discussion purposes.
  • #4,480
  • Dec 21, 2009 10:54am Dec 21, 2009 10:54am
chart 2 min GU
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