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  • #4,421
  • Dec 18, 2009 12:53pm Dec 18, 2009 12:53pm
well as per plan I mentioned and saw thru us ... waited up till london sold gu and eu within 10 pips of top ..... stops 40 pips each , closed them both a little eary but very nice day

also background buying or selling..... do not coutner trend trade ... wait for reatrcements to end ( vsa will tell you when it is time to hop back in again)


Quoting taomql4
i think dr G and mal are better with the elliot wave count than i am

according to mal, this is the 5th leg on the 1hr chart(which should be long!!)
but am also open to see if they are testing the lows..

and mal i demand you take back that money you gave leche..lol, i had some
fun in asian before the down move..lol
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  • #4,422
  • Dec 18, 2009 12:54pm Dec 18, 2009 12:54pm
cocoa futures-

potntial bargain. this is worth to be closely watched!
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  • #4,423
  • Dec 18, 2009 12:54pm Dec 18, 2009 12:54pm
DRg ... eu 1.000 here we come ..... seriously .. and that gold i have been tlkaing to you about 850 here we come.....


Quoting Dr.Geppynius
next chapter of the eur channel i posted the last days.
first we travelled inside the red channel, -then switched into the current blue one which is steeper and indicating increasing downside momentum. we have a chance to form a new steeper channel to the downside. see orange tl. if the high volume we have seen won't reverse the market for a few pips, then we have a good chance to form a new, even steeper channel with a even narrower range indicating that we have the chance to run towards a selling climax and getting a retracement in the near future....
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  • #4,424
  • Dec 18, 2009 12:55pm Dec 18, 2009 12:55pm
Quoting Dr.Geppynius
cocoa futures-

potntial bargain. this is worth to be closely watched!

i want to buy wifeys at discount ... only the nice ones not the ugly ones
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  • #4,425
  • Dec 18, 2009 12:56pm Dec 18, 2009 12:56pm
Quoting malcolmb14
DRg ... eu 1.000 here we come ..... seriously .. and that gold i have been tlkaing to you about 850 here we come.....
nothing against that, but not vertical without corrections. only my equity goes vertical without corrections, to the south
  • #4,426
  • Dec 18, 2009 12:58pm Dec 18, 2009 12:58pm
glad you pointed this out ...

GU weekly .... that channel will drop in slope as did the eu channel

target 1.4500 ....

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Quoting Dr.Geppynius
next chapter of the eur channel i posted the last days.
first we travelled inside the red channel, -then switched into the current blue one which is steeper and indicating increasing downside momentum. we have a chance to form a new steeper channel to the downside. see orange tl. if the high volume we have seen won't reverse the market for a few pips, then we have a good chance to form a new, even steeper channel with a even narrower range indicating that we have the chance to run towards a selling climax and getting a retracement in the near future....
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  • #4,427
  • Dec 18, 2009 1:05pm Dec 18, 2009 1:05pm
profittaking &..perhaps...more
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  • #4,428
  • Dec 18, 2009 1:38pm Dec 18, 2009 1:38pm
Dr,

Thanks for the reply. What is the preferred setup (software and data)?
Thank you,
BR

Quoting Dr.Geppynius
there are no esignal tools used for vsa.
the only thing you might use is the volume profile/ value area thing.
  • #4,429
  • Dec 18, 2009 1:50pm Dec 18, 2009 1:50pm
(O)HLC price bars ir candles
+ volume histogram
+ 2 eyes
+ well controlled triggerfinger
+ good mindset
+ PLAN

tht's all

Quoting Big1red9
Dr,

Thanks for the reply. What is the preferred setup (software and data)?
Thank you,
BR
  • #4,430
  • Dec 18, 2009 2:49pm Dec 18, 2009 2:49pm
Good analysis on GU malcolmb, netted me 102 pips while I was at my miserable day job today. Thanks Bro'!
  • #4,431
  • Edited 11:33am Dec 19, 2009 1:48am | Edited 11:33am
Hello everyone,

I am new to VSA and have been reading and studying the method. I thought I would throw out what I am sure is a very basic and overly simplified understanding, to see if I am heading in the right direction.

If I was to look at only volume history, I would see a dramatic increase in the volume at a trends extremes (high and low). This increases the probability that the current direction of the trend is over and will reverse.

If I was to only look at price, If the bars remain at about average spread, with the close at or about 1/2 of this spread, price is neutral and either a long position or a short position is likely being accumulated. That should the close move up higher on this same average spread bar, that is bullish. That should the close move down on the average spread bar, that would be bearish.

If the bar has a greater spread it supports several probabilities. If the trend had been dropping and there is a bar with a large spread that closes near the high of the bar that is bullish. If the trend has been rising and there is a bar with a large spread, that closes near the low of the bar that is bearish.

Combining these increases the impact.

The color based indicators and certain candle software has a particular appearance based on a composite of results of the above.

I appreciate any feedback.


BR
  • #4,432
  • Dec 19, 2009 11:33am Dec 19, 2009 11:33am
Quoting Dr.Geppynius
profittaking &..perhaps...more
Could anyone recommend a good Commodity/Futures Broker?? and does esignal cover the charting needs of such??


thanx
  • #4,433
  • Dec 19, 2009 12:34pm Dec 19, 2009 12:34pm
Quoting Ace
Could anyone recommend a good Commodity/Futures Broker?? and does esignal cover the charting needs of such??


thanx

esignal covers...but there are better providers for futures data. ninjatrader with zenfire data feed is the best feed you can get. except if you want to pay for cqg integrated client which is 500usd a month + extracheese like exchange costs.

infinityfutures, tradestation which is rj o'brien or dormantrading i can recommend. you won't get much problems with futures brokers since they have stricter regulations than forexbrokers.
  • #4,434
  • Dec 19, 2009 12:43pm Dec 19, 2009 12:43pm
Quoting Dr.Geppynius
esignal covers...but there are better providers for futures data. ninjatrader with zenfire data feed is the best feed you can get. except if you want to pay for cqg integrated client which is 500usd a month + extracheese like exchange costs.

infinityfutures, tradestation which is rj o'brien or dormantrading i can recommend. you won't get much problems with futures brokers since they have stricter regulations than forexbrokers.
Infinity is who I use they have a nice dome
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  • #4,435
  • Edited 1:18pm Dec 19, 2009 12:47pm | Edited 1:18pm
Quoting malcolmb14
Infinity is who I use they have a nice dome
thank you guys, can i connect those feeds into MT4, or should i just go with esignal or Ninja trader??
  • #4,436
  • Dec 19, 2009 12:56pm Dec 19, 2009 12:56pm
bears got nicely buttloved

it happens everyday- everywhere.

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  • #4,437
  • Edited 4:37pm Dec 19, 2009 1:09pm | Edited 4:37pm
[quote=Dr.Geppynius;3318141]bears got nicely buttloved

it happens everyday- everywhere.

when you short support, are you looking for high volume on wide spread down bars? or low volume (no sm interest) wide bars?? i ask because that breach looked to me like average volume, am i missing some key background signs?? whats your ideal reaction to a breach a support??

Also see major stopping volume at that bottom

thank you guys for your education
  • #4,438
  • Dec 19, 2009 1:14pm Dec 19, 2009 1:14pm
Quoting Ace
when you short support, are you looking for high volume on wide spread down bars, whats you ideal reaction to a breach a support??

Also see major stopping volume at that bottom
what happened here? slowly coming off. then the drop gets faster until climax. it might have been a legitimate try to take out support but was successfully stopped. i would never just short such a wide spread down bar which closes nearly at the low BUT has not gotten through support. the next red bar below support has EVEN HIGHER volume but see the range? half of the previous bar + close way off the low! followed by a green neutral bar but then the important thing, a no supply downbar below support. btw. this is a 15m chart and i do not pick entries off of 1 tf. when watching 15m i take confirming entries from 3m after such occasions.

if i join the sellside here after such a drop, i like price to come back and test the breakout level and pop up some signs of weakness.

edit: "break" of orange dashed line is what i am talking about
  • #4,439
  • Dec 19, 2009 1:51pm Dec 19, 2009 1:51pm
LOL! I remember the The Ultimate Warrior from the old WWF.

Quoting Dr.Geppynius
bears got nicely buttloved

it happens everyday- everywhere.

http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums...4buttsecks.gif
  • #4,440
  • Dec 19, 2009 2:30pm Dec 19, 2009 2:30pm
Quoting Ace
when you short support, are you looking for high volume on wide spread down bars? or low volume (no sm interest) wide bars?? i ask because that breach looked to me like average volume, am i missing some key background signs?? whats your ideal reaction to a breach a support??

Also see major stopping volume at that bottom

thank you guys for your education
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