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  • #4,361
  • Dec 16, 2009 4:57pm Dec 16, 2009 4:57pm
This chart really shows it!
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  • #4,362
  • Dec 16, 2009 4:59pm Dec 16, 2009 4:59pm
Quoting MykeFX
This chart really shows it!

that weekly volume is the HIGHEST since the inception of the dx ... yet all over news ' dollar bearish .. dollar collapse' total bullshit . I see news like that and laugh .....
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  • #4,363
  • Dec 16, 2009 7:46pm Dec 16, 2009 7:46pm
is a linear regression channel as good?

Quoting Dr.Geppynius
another channel i drew on s&p emini after market opened. see how it is respected all day. 1111 horizontal line is based on globex premarket action which is one of my favourite indications. i emphasize it all over again- vsa is about watching markets for thousands of hours and getting a feeling for it.
Its all in the mind.
  • #4,364
  • Dec 16, 2009 9:06pm Dec 16, 2009 9:06pm
I see a big GJ drop, pull up an 8 hour chart.

Short at 4640. stop at 4710.
Its all in the mind.
  • #4,365
  • Dec 17, 2009 1:38am Dec 17, 2009 1:38am
attached is a trade recently closed out.

short entry into the rally, volume was declining and entered on the low volume bar

islp set at 1.6290
1st tp hit at 1.6241
trailed the remainder at 1.6266 previous pivot high on 3min chart
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  • #4,366
  • Dec 17, 2009 4:23am Dec 17, 2009 4:23am
Quoting Dr.Geppynius
just something easily i wanted to show you. in such occassions you can assume that the excessive volume is not buying but a buying climax.
Hmm
i think overall you have true. but in one thing you missunderstand that High Volume up bar.

I think .this bar that you marked is Effort by SmartMoney to go up (This is kind of principle- up bar closing on the high with high volume agaist Resistance is not weakness but strength that you missunderstand i think ) BUT Next bars tell us that there is so much SUPPLY (that BreakEvent ppls that was going long and now covering their position as you also told thats true) so Effort vs results was still too much supply so price then go lower.

but i was point out that bar on high volume was strong bar not weak bar ; )
  • #4,367
  • Dec 17, 2009 4:39am Dec 17, 2009 4:39am
i politely have to disagree, just because of the simple fact that the amount of volume is pretty excessive into a level which has shown weakness a few bars before and the overall very weak picture and very weak rallies. i prefer looking for an effort to rise in an upchannel or at least with other signs of strength behind us and such occasions, like we see here are leading to drops most of the time.
if we had slightly higher volume on that bar i might have agreed that this really was a true effort to rise but in that case, no way. market does not just suddenly switch it's bias and shows strength without anything significantly behind us like a selling climax, which we had none...just a bullsh*t rally


Quoting adriann
Hmm
i think overall you have true. but in one thing you missunderstand that High Volume up bar.

I think .this bar that you marked is Effort by SmartMoney to go up (This is kind of principle- up bar closing on the high with high volume agaist Resistance is not weakness but strength that you missunderstand i think ) BUT Next bars tell us that there is so much SUPPLY (that BreakEvent ppls that was going long and now covering their position as you also told thats true) so Effort vs results was still too much supply so price then go lower.

but i was...
  • #4,368
  • Dec 17, 2009 5:11am Dec 17, 2009 5:11am
Malcomb - MykeFx - where You see UPBAR on high volume ?

I see only downbars ( narrow , closing of the lows.. ) on high volume...

Thanks.

Best,
Tom

Quoting MykeFX
Let me take a stab at it:

the DX shows very High Volume on a fairly low spread up bar. The weekly EUR/USD chart shows very high volume on a sizable down bar ( last weeks )

The pros must be selling the Euro and buying the USD, slowly accumulating maybe because we don't see a lot of upward movement on the DX but alot of volume. Does this sound right?

Lots of activity, things should get interesting!!
  • #4,369
  • Dec 17, 2009 6:06am Dec 17, 2009 6:06am
a good laugh

the muppetshow: read this thread, beginning from post #9 and see who is the real ubertrader

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=211705
  • #4,370
  • Dec 17, 2009 6:35am Dec 17, 2009 6:35am
after the anticipated break of the channel low, eu formed a new, steeper channel about 11 hours ago.
see how price fails at the channel supply line and gets pushed down to the demand line. bears are clearly in control and downside momentum has increased if you compare the steepness of the two channels.

channels define clear trading ranges and reasonable entrypoints ad targets. see how eur stalled at the channel demand line.
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  • #4,371
  • Dec 17, 2009 6:51am Dec 17, 2009 6:51am
are you for real ?

DR G is the master of vsa and my mentor ..

what do you really know of vsa .. and why are you posting in this forum ... you are completely wrong......

go back and read master the markets 20 times , and trade with 90% accuracy and then come tell the guy that really was why this thread started how to trade vsa

He taught me .. i passed it on to Shamus and now we have guys like you telling us how to trade vsa .... what a joke.

Quoting adriann
Hmm
i think overall you have true. but in one thing you missunderstand that High Volume up bar.

I think .this bar that you marked is Effort by SmartMoney to go up (This is kind of principle- up bar closing on the high with high volume agaist Resistance is not weakness but strength that you missunderstand i think ) BUT Next bars tell us that there is so much SUPPLY (that BreakEvent ppls that was going long and now covering their position as you also told thats true) so Effort vs results was still too much supply so price then go lower.

but i was...
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  • #4,372
  • Dec 17, 2009 8:18am Dec 17, 2009 8:18am
Man, some great educational posts yesterday. Thank you.

Dr. G. or Malcolmb, if I may ask a question just to make sure I am understanding. Do selling/buying climax most often happen after a break down of a supply line or demand line and there you will also have a change in sentiment. just as in the GU yesterday.
  • #4,373
  • Dec 17, 2009 9:07am Dec 17, 2009 9:07am
oh look ultra high volume up bar ... lets all buy gu

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  • #4,374
  • Dec 17, 2009 9:08am Dec 17, 2009 9:08am
Quoting tarco
Man, some great educational posts yesterday. Thank you.

Dr. G. or Malcolmb, if I may ask a question just to make sure I am understanding. Do selling/buying climax most often happen after a break down of a supply line or demand line and there you will also have a change in sentiment. just as in the GU yesterday.

can you post a chart with an example please
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  • #4,375
  • Dec 17, 2009 9:23am Dec 17, 2009 9:23am
Does anybody still believe TICK VOLUME doesn't work?

BTW--since the release of the aud gdp.2%, audcad has
completely lost its marbles--keeps breaking the LOWS.
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  • #4,376
  • Dec 17, 2009 9:30am Dec 17, 2009 9:30am
Quoting malcolmb14
GU ..weakness is there.

It seems that even if FOMC makes usd weaker it may only be a temporary pop

volumes suggest traders may still be bear gu

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damn i missed this one.....
  • #4,377
  • Dec 17, 2009 10:03am Dec 17, 2009 10:03am
Quoting taomql4
damn i missed this one.....

holding this till 5800 ....nice week will be able to get my Cayenne turbo this weekend
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  • #4,378
  • Dec 17, 2009 10:35am Dec 17, 2009 10:35am
Some day i will join also Cayenne turbo club

Best,
Tom



Quoting malcolmb14
holding this till 5800 ....nice week will be able to get my Cayenne turbo this weekend
  • #4,379
  • Dec 17, 2009 10:59am Dec 17, 2009 10:59am
This is 15 min GU. From Dr. Gs posts and from observation it seems like the reversal stopping volume or buying/ selling climaxs will come after abreak of a channel. Yesterday you posted a chart before FOMC that background showed buyers and ofcourse you were right....pop goes up, a break of a previous trading channel. Then bam here comes the sellers pushing back into previous channel. Finds the channel again, drops even lower out of the old channel and then here comes the buyers. I realize over all this is a weak market.

After breaks of these channels, should we always look for stopping volume or climaxes?

Thanks.
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  • #4,380
  • Dec 17, 2009 11:23am Dec 17, 2009 11:23am
Quoting tfflyer
Malcomb - MykeFx - where You see UPBAR on high volume ?

I see only downbars ( narrow , closing of the lows.. ) on high volume...

Thanks.

Best,
Tom
Checkout the DX weekly chart, 2 ultra high volumes, relatively small spread upbars.

http://www.quote.com/us/futures/char...rtUi.minutes=#


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