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  • #7,441
  • Dec 17, 2009 6:46am Dec 17, 2009 6:46am
Quoting vic_elc
A chance to go short , but the SL will exceed the 100 pip so you will need to calculate your risk

good luck
What are using as your stoploss the KS or span a
  • #7,442
  • Dec 17, 2009 6:54am Dec 17, 2009 6:54am
Quoting vic_elc
No bro , am not working live now days , am on a vacation till the end of the year
good luck
Me too from yesterday I will not trade till end of this year


Quoting vic_elc
A chance to go short , but the SL will exceed the 100 pip so you will need to calculate your risk

good luck

Can you explain to me bro how you say it is a short chance on GJ?
1H
the two lines moves as the same in high momentum and now KS start to flat
and also thee is support of price inside the Kumo

http://www.viafy.com/uploads/ab97c72101.gif


I see flat KS at 4H chart act as support with flat kumo

http://www.viafy.com/uploads/c33cfe061f.gif

and daily show a good information
as you say power of flat line we see that when CS reflected down from Flat KS
but now CS out of kumo do not know it it will reflected down or will enter kumo again do not
http://www.viafy.com/uploads/b312e2bfcb.gif


Best Regards
  • #7,443
  • Dec 17, 2009 6:58am Dec 17, 2009 6:58am
Quoting Checkz
What are using as your stoploss the KS or span a
This is a simple Kumo Breakout , your Kumo is to manage your position
good luck
  • #7,444
  • Dec 17, 2009 7:03am Dec 17, 2009 7:03am
  • #7,445
  • Dec 17, 2009 7:04am Dec 17, 2009 7:04am
Thanks Vic: my eyes keep closing awaiting a 1h candle close above the Gj cloud; Also, watching for the same setup for a Gchf long.

Steve
  • #7,446
  • Dec 17, 2009 7:07am Dec 17, 2009 7:07am
Quoting EgyTrader
Me too from yesterday I will not trade till end of this year





Can you explain to me bro how you say it is a short chance on GJ?
1H
the...
a close below the 1Hr Kumo is a the first sign that the support area is broken , the daily is down as the price is below the Kumo , the weekly is down also as the price is below the Kumo .
this is a chance a good trader understand that any position is a 50/50
so there is no need to think , we only need a signal and a tide MM RM hit your position and leave the rest for the market to decide
good luck
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  • #7,447
  • Dec 17, 2009 7:08am Dec 17, 2009 7:08am
Quoting stevewide
Thanks Vic: my eyes keep closing awaiting a 1h candle close above the Gj cloud; Also, watching for the same setup for a Gchf long.

Steve

Steve Big Bro
Glad to see you around, hope trades are going well with you
have a great week
  • #7,448
  • Dec 17, 2009 7:09am Dec 17, 2009 7:09am
Quoting vic_elc
a close below the 1Hr Kumo is a the first sign that the support area is broken , the daily is down as the price is below the Kumo , the weekly is down also as the price is below the Kumo .
this is a chance a good trader understand that any position is a 50/50
so there is no need to think , we only need a signal and a tide MM RM hit your position and leave the rest for the market to decide
good luck
thanks bro
  • #7,449
  • Dec 17, 2009 7:11am Dec 17, 2009 7:11am
Quoting ichi360
Mainly 30 Mmn and 1H if scalping on 15 mins ...
Thanks Mate

please keep posting your futures and oil trades in here so we can all learn how to trade them and what MM and RM we need
good luck mate
  • #7,450
  • Dec 17, 2009 7:19am Dec 17, 2009 7:19am
Why am not short EUR JPY ??!!!!!!
although the 1Hr broke the cloud on the direction of the daily trend , the weekly Chart doesn't support the short view at the moment , the price still inside the cloud , the best thing to do is set aside let the market decides and then jumo again
good luck
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  • #7,451
  • Dec 17, 2009 7:36am Dec 17, 2009 7:36am
Quoting vic_elc
Why am not short EUR JPY ??!!!!!!
although the 1Hr broke the cloud on the direction of the daily trend , the weekly Chart doesn't support the short view at the moment , the price still inside the cloud , the best thing to do is set aside let the market decides and then jumo again
good luck
Vic:
How safe would it have been to follow Ej down to the weekly cloud bottom? Hindsight it worked but I'd like your opinion please.

I notice Gj is also testing the weekly cloud bottom so might it be same risk as Ej?

Steve
  • #7,452
  • Dec 17, 2009 7:40am Dec 17, 2009 7:40am
Quoting stevewide
Vic:
How safe would it have been to follow Ej down to the weekly cloud bottom? Hindsight it worked but I'd like your opinion please.

I notice Gj is also testing the weekly cloud bottom so might it be same risk as Ej?

Steve
in my chart the EJ is testing the support area on the weekly cloud, i pref to stay aside and let the market decides of it is gonna break this cloud or not.

the GBP JPY is already outside the cloud in my chart also , this is why i see it as a good chance to short this pair

may be charts are differ because of the Brokers.
can you show me ur weekly charts
good luck

EDT:I think i misunderstood ur first question, it is safe to follow the weekly cloud, actually it is safe to trade inside the cloud but you have to be aware that the cloud is the trade limit .
  • #7,453
  • Dec 17, 2009 7:40am Dec 17, 2009 7:40am
Quoting vic_elc
a close below the 1Hr Kumo is a the first sign that the support area is broken , the daily is down as the price is below the Kumo , the weekly is down also as the price is below the Kumo .
this is a chance a good trader understand that any position is a 50/50
so there is no need to think , we only need a signal and a tide MM RM hit your position and leave the rest for the market to decide
good luck
Does the whole cadle need to be below the cloud including the wick of the candle before we short it.
  • #7,454
  • Dec 17, 2009 7:48am Dec 17, 2009 7:48am
Quoting Checkz
Does the whole cadle need to be below the cloud including the wick of the candle before we short it.
we need a close below the Kumo ,first candle close below the Kumo is your signal constant closing means the trend is getting ready
  • #7,455
  • Dec 17, 2009 8:08am Dec 17, 2009 8:08am
As it look reflected from Weekly Kumo:

and there is a good note to learn here


http://www.viafy.com/uploads/b28eaf091a.png
  • #7,456
  • Edited 8:33am Dec 17, 2009 8:16am | Edited 8:33am
Quoting vic_elc
in my chart the EJ is testing the support area on the weekly cloud, i pref to stay aside and let the market decides of it is gonna break this cloud or not.

the GBP JPY is already outside the cloud in my chart also , this is why i see it as a good chance to short this pair

may be charts are differ because of the Brokers.
can you show me ur weekly charts
good luck
I think it's a fake breakout, because the KS remained flat after the TS/KS cross and the future kumo is bullish also notice the channel, on the monthly the price is too far from the KS, if it closes above the monthly TS then up will be the move, but I'm sure there will be plenty of opportunities for shorting on the hourly.
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  • #7,457
  • Dec 17, 2009 8:24am Dec 17, 2009 8:24am
Quoting vic_elc

the GBP JPY is already outside the cloud in my chart also , this is why i see it as a good chance to short this pair
My mistake Vic; if I zoom in close my weekly Gj is closed below cloud, as is daily chart so awaiting a 1h break of its cloud for entry.

Thanks
Steve
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  • #7,458
  • Dec 17, 2009 8:51am Dec 17, 2009 8:51am
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  • #7,459
  • Dec 17, 2009 10:56am Dec 17, 2009 10:56am
Quoting vic_elc
Any one still holding this position killers ??!!!!
Hello all just back from my work:-)
MeStill so far goes nice 125++ so far
Let's take a look and know where are we
  • #7,460
  • Dec 17, 2009 11:52am Dec 17, 2009 11:52am
Quoting lbtrader
I think it's a fake breakout, because the KS remained flat after the TS/KS cross and the future kumo is bullish also notice the channel, on the monthly the price is too far from the KS, if it closes above the monthly TS then up will be the move, but I'm sure there will be plenty of opportunities for shorting on the hourly.
i see it as an initial signal , not a fake signal , any signal is an opportunity and your RM will decides if it is ok or not , let me get to the price action
i understand that the signal is not complete , but looking at the whole picture we can see that Cs broke the price curve and it is below Ks which is supposed to resist it from now on

2nd point is Ks itself as long as it is inside the cloud it means that we still facing a problem , once it breaks the cloud the price can fall easily.
this is what we used to call the complete view or signal , all the obstacles are cleared and there is no problems

the monthly chart still showin resistance by the Ts, so a down move still expected

my view for any position is the money that am gonna lose , this is an entry with 150SL = 1.5% of my money which is not bad at all.
keep it up great hunter
happy new year Bro
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