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  • #2,381
  • Dec 11, 2009 7:08am Dec 11, 2009 7:08am
here is pic
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  • Dec 11, 2009 7:13am Dec 11, 2009 7:13am
here my free trade and statement
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  • #2,383
  • Dec 11, 2009 7:48am Dec 11, 2009 7:48am
Been lurking in the background for a week, reading up and putting in some chart time. All nice straight forward J16 PA with some other confluences thrown in. Nice work on keeping up the momentum with the thread Jankone.

Two easy trades today. Simple stuff, obvious TPs. Potential to hold the second trade for longer as it's with the trend, but things to do!

Best,
Chris
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  • #2,384
  • Dec 11, 2009 8:03am Dec 11, 2009 8:03am
Quoting Chris P
Been lurking in the background for a week, reading up and putting in some chart time. All nice straight forward J16 PA with some other confluences thrown in. Nice work on keeping up the momentum with the thread Jankone.

Two easy trades today. Simple stuff, obvious TPs. Potential to hold the second trade for longer as it's with the trend, but things to do!

Best,
Chris
Chris,

the second pin with the trend was a very clear trade!
very good setup for trend pin

IMHO such clear setups, with less of shadows, calm movement and nice pin are great wins + good RR

cheers
Winston
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  • #2,385
  • Dec 11, 2009 8:12am Dec 11, 2009 8:12am
Thanks Winston. I've been doing this for a while with higher timeframes, so nothing new. Just trying to cut my teeth on the lower timeframes.

Interesting BEOB on GU too. Didn't take it as just gonna stick to testing pins at the moment, but PA is PA, no matter what the timeframe. The key is, and always will be, location.

Best,
Chris
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  • Dec 11, 2009 8:23am Dec 11, 2009 8:23am
Quoting Chris P
...PA is PA, no matter what the timeframe. The key is, and always will be, location..
Nice to see u again Chris
  • #2,387
  • Dec 11, 2009 8:40am Dec 11, 2009 8:40am
Quoting supremeChaos
Nice to see u again Chris
Hi Supreme,

I'm always lurking around from time to time, but just so busy with work that I don't often get a chance to pop my head up above the parapet. Good stuff going on in this thread.

Best,
Chris
  • #2,388
  • Dec 11, 2009 9:43am Dec 11, 2009 9:43am
A few charts that would prove disaster if you try to trade against a trend when price is riding the bb... Avoiding these types of trades regardless of bar shape has been key to my improvement.
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  • Dec 11, 2009 10:25am Dec 11, 2009 10:25am
kind of a weird day today, had a huge move in the dollar but equities have stayed pretty level. First time live I've seen the markets ride the rail the entire session and not even bother to pullback, happened a few times during my backtesting...M3 chart probably would've been gold today.
  • #2,390
  • Dec 11, 2009 10:26am Dec 11, 2009 10:26am


that's why RyanMcd trades CT Pin bars when the BB are flat!

Quoting Jduester
A few charts that would prove disaster if you try to trade against a trend when price is riding the bb... Avoiding these types of trades regardless of bar shape has been key to my improvement.
Trading is a delicate balance of Strategy , Money management and Psychology
  • #2,391
  • Dec 11, 2009 2:30pm Dec 11, 2009 2:30pm
Quoting Chris P

Interesting BEOB on GU too. Didn't take it as just gonna stick to testing pins at the moment, but PA is PA, no matter what the timeframe. The key is, and always will be, location.
Best,
Chris
This is true.

Also, the BUOBs are profitable on this timeframe too , if anything I find them more profitable than pinbars in my experience but I digress.

Quoting Jduester
A few charts that would prove disaster if you try to trade against a trend when price is riding the bb... Avoiding these types of trades regardless of bar shape has been key to my improvement.
Good illustration of an important point here Josh. . .

That's why I think the 5Min is so much harder than the higher timeframes. On the higher timeframes bars like these actually mean something, whereas on 5Min they could have been formed due to literally anything.
  • #2,392
  • Dec 11, 2009 6:08pm Dec 11, 2009 6:08pm
Hey guys,
today eur/jpy was really great. really nice trades.
good job


Quoting Muhammad989
here my free trade and statement
  • #2,393
  • Dec 11, 2009 6:14pm Dec 11, 2009 6:14pm
If you (guys) will trade setups like these, you will be burned, sooner or later.
Rules are for BUSINESS. If you don't trade with rules, you just gamble. It's better to visit Vegas.
yes- nice pinbars - BUT no div ( I am sure, you know rules about CT trading - div + pin) so NO trade. No risk, no sl , no profit.... sometimes you can "catch" the falling knife, but you will lose your profits to next 5 same ct trades without div...

thanks jduester for chats



Quoting Jduester
A few charts that would prove disaster if you try to trade against a trend when price is riding the bb... Avoiding these types of trades regardless of bar shape has been key to my improvement.
  • #2,394
  • Dec 11, 2009 6:29pm Dec 11, 2009 6:29pm
Hi Josh, there is no div in your chart. so no trade.

or do you mean even with a div, it is not safe to trade?


Quoting Jduester
A few charts that would prove disaster if you try to trade against a trend when price is riding the bb... Avoiding these types of trades regardless of bar shape has been key to my improvement.
  • #2,395
  • Dec 11, 2009 6:51pm Dec 11, 2009 6:51pm
Why do I have feeling, that people can't read whole #1 ?

I did it really short and concrete... not 50x A4 like other systems.
  • #2,396
  • Dec 11, 2009 7:00pm Dec 11, 2009 7:00pm
Quoting Jankone
Why do I have feeling, that people can't read whole #1 ?

I did it really short and concrete... not 50x A4 like other systems.

just separates laziness from will to succeed...do not worry it is all in there and then more...
Thank you Malcolm, Belekas, Jim, raczekfx and Ryanmcd !
  • #2,397
  • Dec 11, 2009 9:50pm Dec 11, 2009 9:50pm
Quoting Jduester
A few charts that would prove disaster if you try to trade against a trend when price is riding the bb... Avoiding these types of trades regardless of bar shape has been key to my improvement.
Very nice examples. post in picture form.
if u are online Andy12, u can add these charts to the charts i've recently mentioned that u look at.
btw, the trend was so strong that those pins technically did not have a chance to break (to the upside, first chart; downside, 2nd chart).

Quoting Jankone
If you (guys) will trade setups like these, you will be burned, sooner or later...
yes- nice pinbars - BUT no div... so NO trade...
div has no match against strong trend (momentum). post for them.

Quoting henryloving
Hi Josh, there is no div in your chart. so no trade.
or do you mean even with a div, it is not safe to trade?
in a strong trend, u cannot rely on div alone.



Quoting Jankone
Why do I have feeling, that people can't read whole #1 ?
I did it really short and concrete... not 50x A4 like other systems.
I am sure your Post #1 is gold & has helped a lot of people.
without post #1, we wont have an awesome Jankone M5 thread.

dont worry about the "other people"; they either learn or they dont; they either make time for learning or they dont... the only thing that should matter to u is that u have done your part to make a contribution to this forum.
  • #2,398
  • Dec 12, 2009 3:57am Dec 12, 2009 3:57am
Thanks I got this now. Strong trend just trade with trend or stay away and don't look for CT. Flat market or weak trend conditions only where you look for CT.
Quoting supremeChaos
Very nice examples. post in picture form.
if u are online Andy12, u can add these charts to the charts i've recently mentioned that u look at.
btw, the trend was so strong that those pins technically did not have a chance to break (to the upside, first chart; downside, 2nd chart).
"Every battle is won before it is ever fought." - Sun-tzu, The Art of War.
  • #2,399
  • Dec 14, 2009 8:00am Dec 14, 2009 8:00am
Quoting Jigsaw
This is true.
Also, the BUOBs are profitable on this timeframe too , if anything I find them more profitable than pinbars in my experience but I digress. ....
interesting insight & experience.
which broker/s have u experienced this with?
Thanks!
  • #2,400
  • Edited 5:06pm Dec 14, 2009 5:06pm | Edited 5:06pm
What is BUOB method guys
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