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  • #961
  • Dec 4, 2009 12:20pm Dec 4, 2009 12:20pm
The difference is we only care about movement. Broad movement. We don't care about direction, pullbacks, price spikes, it's all good. Those are some of the things that make trading with the trend difficult.

Of course there are no rules that control the markets based on indicators, they are hopefully only increasing our probability of catching movement... but alas, they may be birds of a reddish color after all.

If the cynics out there don't like the filters or mitigation strategies, you, uh I mean they, can leave them turned off. :-))

Viper

Quoting plasmapants
if entry filters can determine trend, wouldn't it be more profitable to trade the trend with them?

is there a rule which prevents a range from occuring because of an extreme standard deviation or certain angle regression channel or even a oversold/overbought condition or even a divergence etc?

one wonders if entry filters are red herrings.
  • #962
  • Dec 4, 2009 8:10pm Dec 4, 2009 8:10pm
Hey Viper,

Just wanted to bring to your attention something I noticed today in Version 2.5. I have attached a screen shot of the trades so you can better see what is going on.

I was using the Ea on GBPUSD. The pair started moving violently after the NFP and the price gaped. THE EA registered that ( see order 15886304, with comments "...Started/Gap).

My guess would be that the gap probably messed it up because the EA stopped working. The orders were not correctly positioned in the grid ( see price levels on the screenshot) The setting were 5 levels, 15 pip increment with adjustment of 5 pips for the first order. The price hit 4th and 5th level (short) but there were no new positions for the long orders. I had that issue with mGRID too.

I do not know if there is anything you can do about it but I though it would help to let you know. Situations like this could happen at any time.

Thanks and have a good weekend,

Ogie D
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  • #963
  • Dec 4, 2009 11:52pm Dec 4, 2009 11:52pm
Quoting tradingviper
The difference is we only care about movement. Broad movement. We don't care about direction, pullbacks, price spikes, it's all good. Those are some of the things that make trading with the trend difficult.

Of course there are no rules that control the markets based on indicators, they are hopefully only increasing our probability of catching movement... but alas, they may be birds of a reddish color after all.

If the cynics out there don't like the filters or mitigation strategies, you, uh I mean they, can leave them turned off. :-))

Viper...

(psst...red herrings are a type of fish!)

sorry, I have nothing better to post at the moment...I see lots of good ideas flying around nonetheless. damn, we're gonna get a foot of snow here tonight...
  • #964
  • Dec 5, 2009 8:34am Dec 5, 2009 8:34am
LOL, I think I already knew that !!! But every time I see that phrase, I think of one of those stork-like birds that like water... lol

Where do you live, Alaska ?

Quoting optojay
(psst...red herrings are a type of fish!)

sorry, I have nothing better to post at the moment...I see lots of good ideas flying around nonetheless. damn, we're gonna get a foot of snow here tonight...
  • #965
  • Dec 5, 2009 8:39am Dec 5, 2009 8:39am
I couldn't see your screen shot very well but I suspect when things like that happen, it is a broker/platform issue. I don't think there is anything I can do about stuff like that.

If anybody gets/has more info about what happens/ed in these kinds of cases, please share...

Viper

Quoting ogidimi
Hey Viper,

Just wanted to bring to your attention something I noticed today in Version 2.5. I have attached a screen shot of the trades so you can better see what is going on.

I was using the Ea on GBPUSD. The pair started moving violently after the NFP and the price gaped. THE EA registered that ( see order 15886304, with comments "...Started/Gap).

My guess would be that the gap probably messed it up because the EA stopped working. The orders were not correctly positioned in the grid ( see price levels on the screenshot) The setting were 5...
  • #966
  • Dec 5, 2009 8:46am Dec 5, 2009 8:46am
Welcome to the club. As far as I know, everything should still be there. There have been many posts about trouble shooting your set-up.

I don't like the backtester on MT4. In my opinion, they really fell down in that area and produced a substandard product. I could rant for weeks so I will just bite my tongue.
Viper

Quoting designmax
I have downloaded VeiperGridEA v2.4 and 2.5, and can't get either of them to run on the backtest...when I try to set the parameters, no window appears. Are the download links still working?
Designmax
  • #967
  • Dec 5, 2009 9:08am Dec 5, 2009 9:08am
Hey Everyone,

Here is version 2.6. I haven't been able to test this latest version as much as I usually like, but I think it's OK.

It adds an entry filter (suggested by Oji) which requires i-Regr to be in your indicators folder. So if you haven't loaded that yet please do that. If you run your chart on longer time frames (>=1hr) it really restricts your trading a lot.

I added a set takeprofit to the input parameters and renamed the set stoploss to a similar name. These two parameters are in dollars.

I fixed the original volatility filter so it actually works. It did have a bug.

I changed some of the filters to execute in an OR condition instead of an AND condition. This applies to the trend and volatility type filters. So if you turn them all on, the market has to be trending OR be volatile but not both at the same time.

I added a filter that the pivot price must be at a strong psychological price level. Basically double 00 so price has to be of the format x.xx00(0) or for yen pairs xxx.00(0). This is more automated than the manual pivot price entry (left in as well).

My slave job had a crisis in the last two weeks and I had to work 60hrs/week to fix someone else's problem, so I really haven't tested this as much as I like. These changes weren't to complicated so hopefully they are bug free.

Trade well, Live well
Viper

P.S. I attached i-Regr here as well. I don't usually like it when identical things get posted multiple times, but since this version needs it...
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 ViperGridEA_Version2.6.mq4   75 KB | 2,084 downloads
File Type: mq4 i-Regr.mq4   5 KB | 1,671 downloads
  • #968
  • Dec 5, 2009 1:09pm Dec 5, 2009 1:09pm
Thank you Viper, Great job.

I already did the first testing and show promising results.

A ? for you - The BB filter and the iRegr filter need to be optimized. How do we do that?

My experience with mGrid and iRegr Filter shows that optimizing the parameters of iRegr makes a big, big, big difference. If the EA show very promising results now, imagine how much better it would be if the filter is optimized. Different currency pairs need different settings of the filter because of the different volatility each pair has...

Same applies to the BB filter

Thank you again and have a glorious weekend

Ogie D
  • #969
  • Dec 6, 2009 12:37pm Dec 6, 2009 12:37pm
Hello Viper,

If you could do me a favor and add the OrderReliable to the attached iRegr Grid EA.

I would like to do some comparable testing but I need to have both EA not be messed up by the different order levels due to spreads.

I would be willing to compensate you for the work, if you think it would take too much of your time

Thank you and God Bless

Ogie D
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 i-Regr GRID Dir no Dist improvement B.mq4   22 KB | 1,017 downloads
  • #970
  • Dec 6, 2009 4:11pm Dec 6, 2009 4:11pm
Hello Viper

I have downloaded v2.6 of the code, but I have the same problem as before - can't open the parameter window, or get anything to load up when I load the expert onto the platform for a backtest. I am running it on Tadawul platform. When I click on expert properties, the window does not come up. I have checked the modify expert button, and the code definitely is there, but something is preventing me from being able to run it. Also, I have tried to load it onto a chart, but that does not work either. Can you suggest anything that I can do to make it run? Is anyone else having this problem?

Regards
Designmax
  • #971
  • Dec 6, 2009 7:49pm Dec 6, 2009 7:49pm
Quoting ogidimi
Hey Viper,

Just wanted to bring to your attention something I noticed today in Version 2.5. I have attached a screen shot of the trades so you can better see what is going on.

I was using the Ea on GBPUSD. The pair started moving violently after the NFP and the price gaped. THE EA registered that ( see order 15886304, with comments "...Started/Gap).

My guess would be that the gap probably messed it up because the EA stopped working. The orders were not correctly positioned in the grid ( see price levels on the screenshot) The setting were...

hi ogie,

definately a broker issue. i had similar problems with the nfp. had a grid spiked. broker refused to close open orders until they were well and truly in -ve territory. at one point they disconnected the server. it cost me about 2 weeks work.

now i'm looking for a fixed spread bucket shop broker with guaranteed fills and stops to take my account to. if anyone knows a broker who fits the criteria let me know. beating the bookie with variable spreads is not as easy as it first seems.
bull in a china shop
  • #972
  • Dec 6, 2009 7:58pm Dec 6, 2009 7:58pm
Quoting designmax
Hello Viper

I have downloaded v2.6 of the code, but I have the same problem as before - can't open the parameter window, or get anything to load up when I load the expert onto the platform for a backtest. I am running it on Tadawul platform. When I click on expert properties, the window does not come up. I have checked the modify expert button, and the code definitely is there, but something is preventing me from being able to run it. Also, I have tried to load it onto a chart, but that does not work either. Can you suggest anything that I can...
dm,

just a checklist.

ea goes in mt4experts...
orderreliables goes in mt4expertsinclude...

mt4 tools options - allow live trading
bull in a china shop
  • #973
  • Dec 6, 2009 8:20pm Dec 6, 2009 8:20pm
Quoting designmax
Hello Viper

I have downloaded v2.6 of the code, but I have the same problem as before - can't open the parameter window, or get anything to load up when I load the expert onto the platform for a backtest. I am running it on Tadawul platform. When I click on expert properties, the window does not come up. I have checked the modify expert button, and the code definitely is there, but something is preventing me from being able to run it. Also, I have tried to load it onto a chart, but that does not work either. Can you suggest anything that I can...
I am having the same problem....tried to run on MIG...hope help is on the way

福 子 Victor V
  • #974
  • Dec 6, 2009 8:31pm Dec 6, 2009 8:31pm
Quoting plasmapants
dm,

just a checklist.

ea goes in mt4experts...
orderreliables goes in mt4expertsinclude...

mt4 tools options - allow live trading
Done the above but still cannot load..any suggestions?

Thanks.
福 子 Victor V
  • #975
  • Dec 6, 2009 11:46pm Dec 6, 2009 11:46pm
Quoting camvcvoo
Done the above but still cannot load..any suggestions?

Thanks.
I had same problem. You need to compile the program. It has 2 warnings but no errors. So once compiled everything works.
We all see the same dream, just from different viewpoints
  • #976
  • Dec 7, 2009 1:56am Dec 7, 2009 1:56am
Hello Ironbark

Dosen't the program compile as soon as you load it into the Experts folder? How do you then go about compiling it again?

Cheers
Designmax
  • #977
  • Dec 7, 2009 2:01am Dec 7, 2009 2:01am
Hi all

I tried to compile the code a second time as suggested by Ironbark, and the system came up with the following error:-

Compiling 'ViperGridEA_Version2.6.mq4'...
'OrderReliable_v0_2_5.mqh' - cannot open the program fileCrogram FilesTadawul3expertsViperGridEA_Version2.6.mq4 (34, 1)
1 error(s), 0 warning(s)

Viper, can you help with this error?

Cheers
Designmax
  • #978
  • Dec 7, 2009 2:13am Dec 7, 2009 2:13am
Quoting designmax
Hi all

I tried to compile the code a second time as suggested by Ironbark, and the system came up with the following error:-

Compiling 'ViperGridEA_Version2.6.mq4'...
'OrderReliable_v0_2_5.mqh' - cannot open the program fileCrogram FilesTadawul3expertsViperGridEA_Version2.6.mq4 (34, 1)
1 error(s), 0 warning(s)

Viper, can you help with this error?

Cheers
Designmax
Hi Designmax,

You need to install Orderreliable_v0_2_5.mqh into your expertsinclude folder of your broker.

click on the attachment at the right hand top corner of this thread, find that file and install it into that folder and you should be fine.
  • #979
  • Dec 7, 2009 2:14am Dec 7, 2009 2:14am
Quoting designmax
Hi all

I tried to compile the code a second time as suggested by Ironbark, and the system came up with the following error:-

Compiling 'ViperGridEA_Version2.6.mq4'...
'OrderReliable_v0_2_5.mqh' - cannot open the program fileCrogram FilesTadawul3expertsViperGridEA_Version2.6.mq4 (34, 1)
1 error(s), 0 warning(s)

Viper, can you help with this error?

Cheers
Designmax
that file can be found on November 2, 2009 post.
  • #980
  • Dec 7, 2009 2:26am Dec 7, 2009 2:26am
Quoting Ironbark
I had same problem. You need to compile the program. It has 2 warnings but no errors. So once compiled everything works.
It works now. Thanks for reminding to compile the files

福 子 Victor V
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