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  • #41
  • Nov 23, 2009 2:43am Nov 23, 2009 2:43am
How many computers you have to have for 6 monitors?
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  • #42
  • Nov 23, 2009 3:15am Nov 23, 2009 3:15am
Quoting mima
How many computers you have to have for 6 monitors?
just 1.

on some of the trading desks i've seen 16 monitors hooked up to a single computer -- 4 rows of 4.
  • #43
  • Edited 4:18am Nov 23, 2009 3:57am | Edited 4:18am
Quoting pursuit_21
Qty....
I have only one thing to say....amazingly thank you.....

i am just moving to new place and for this year end i am creating a new pc ring for me..... you agve me everything.......

i agree with ATI AMD setups are great for the graphics..i will look into it as well...

i mihgt just buy one more laptop with nvidia card and keep my desktop as AMD/ATI combo... in that case i think i will go with first configuration.... as you guys have suggested.....leaning towards that more...as that cost around 450$.... and add another 500$ i will be able to get a great laptop with NVIDIA card and will do all the programming there...

Thanks pursuit once again......

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@pursuit
what you think of this deal....

ASUS P5N-VM WS/TW100-E5 Workstation Motherboard w/ Free CPU (Intel E7500) $199 this wil bring some cost down ...just some slower processor...i only need to run charts...it does comes with two output on board

link : http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1664929
  • #44
  • Nov 23, 2009 4:07am Nov 23, 2009 4:07am
Hi all.

My 6 screen set-up only cost me just over £3,000. There are not many businesses you can set up, with such a small amount of money. So give yourselves the best possible chance of succeeding and invest in some proper equipment.

I bought the (cheap) screens locally but bought the unit from tradingcomputers - whom I would thoroughly recommend. They were helpful, quick and a pleasure to do business with. I was originally going to buy from digital tigers but they were unresponsive, unhelpful and verging on rude.

I have no idea what's 'under the hood' - but it does its job well.

Cheers

BTD
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  • #45
  • Nov 23, 2009 4:11am Nov 23, 2009 4:11am
np.... if you're on a budget definitely go with the amd system like maheswara said....much more bang for buck.

just don't forget not to stinge on the psu. get something from a reputable company .... coolermaster, antec, ocz, enermax, thermaltake..etc. you can find plenty of reviews online. and make sure you get something more than 450w. ....it may be much cheaper to get a 600w no-name brand from taiwan than getting a 450w enermax....but the key here is the stability of the rails (the different channels that supply different parts of your computer with power)

e.g. your hdd uses 5v rails...if that 5v fluctuates between 4v and 6v its going to kill your hdd. the reputable brands fluctuate around 5%.

all the best with your purchases.



Quoting indianguyinny24
I have only one thing to say....amazingly thank you.....

i am just moving to new place and for this year end i am creating a new pc ring for me..... you agve me everything.......

i agree with ATI AMD setups are great for the graphics..i will look into it as well...

i mihgt just buy one more laptop with nvidia card and keep my desktop as AMD/ATI combo... in that case i think i will go with first configuration.......
  • #46
  • Nov 23, 2009 4:13am Nov 23, 2009 4:13am
Quoting BackTestDummy
Hi all.

My 6 screen set-up only cost me just over £3,000. There are not many businesses you can set up, with such a small amount of money. So give yourselves the best possible chance of succeeding and invest in some proper equipment....

lookin good! . nice setup. i don't have a wall to mount displays on so i had to go with a desk mount, eats up the desk space
  • #47
  • Nov 23, 2009 4:17am Nov 23, 2009 4:17am
Quoting pursuit_21
just 1.

on some of the trading desks i've seen 16 monitors hooked up to a single computer -- 4 rows of 4.
You have to attach it to video card... and video card doesnt have 6 outputs...or computer with multiple videocards?
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  • #48
  • Nov 23, 2009 4:20am Nov 23, 2009 4:20am
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@pursuit
what you think of this deal....

ASUS P5N-VM WS/TW100-E5 Workstation Motherboard w/ Free CPU (Intel E7500) $199 this wil bring some cost down ...just some slower processor...i only need to run charts...

link : http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1664929[/quote]
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mmm.. to be honest i don't have much personal experience with intel processors. but tom's hardware has quite the reputation for good reviews

this link http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...e,1316-12.html ...is pretty old and i know your e7500 isn't on there..but you should get the general idea of the difference quad core makes in multitasking. for single opperations overall clock speed usually wins out. but with multi-tasking its a different story.

i highly recommend you go with the amd desktop setup for pure trading and other office work that can run on ati chipset.
  • #49
  • Nov 23, 2009 4:29am Nov 23, 2009 4:29am
Quoting mima
You have to attach it to video card... and video card doesnt have 6 outputs...or computer with multiple videocards?

many options here.

1) budget pc with a mobo with 3 x slots for gfx cards...now days almost all gfx cards come with 2 outputs (dvi/vga, dvi/dvi) so that goes 3 x 2 = 6 monitors.

2) budget pc with ATI crossfire hybrid, allows onboard gfx card to run while extra gfx cards are running (e.g. 790gx chipset ...see maheswara post) so thats a mobo with 2 x gfx slots (pcie-x) and 1 onboard = 3 x 2 = 6

3) pc with single or dual gfx card that supports 4 - 8 outputs each. Matrox (octal series), ATI (hydravision or FIREmv), and NVIDIA (quadro) all have these, do note -- much higher pricing.

4) Ext. units like Matrox's Extio. Its an external unit that takes one output from your computer and splits it in a box that lies outside your computer -- comes with software to allow you multi-monitor support.

---not sure if thats exhaustive...if others have other ideas, pls post.
  • #50
  • Nov 23, 2009 4:32am Nov 23, 2009 4:32am
Quoting pursuit_21
many options here.

1) budget pc with a mobo with 3 x slots for gfx cards...now days almost all gfx cards come with 2 outputs (dvi/vga, dvi/dvi) so that goes 3 x 2 = 6 monitors.

2) budget pc with ATI crossfire hybrid, allows onboard gfx card to run while extra gfx cards are running (e.g. 790gx chipset ...see maheswara post) so thats a mobo with 2 x gfx slots (pcie-x) and 1 onboard = 3 x 2 = 6

3) pc with single or dual gfx card that supports 4 - 8 outputs each. Matrox (octal series), ATI (hydravision or FIREmv), and NVIDIA (quadro) all have...
O boy, Thank you
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  • #51
  • Nov 23, 2009 4:35am Nov 23, 2009 4:35am
Quoting mima
O boy, Thank you
no worries .

and this is what i'm drooling after ---

http://www.itechnews.net/wp-content/...or-display.jpg

figure i can use it for suntanning as well
  • #52
  • Nov 23, 2009 5:24am Nov 23, 2009 5:24am
Quoting pursuit_21
lookin good! . nice setup. i don't have a wall to mount displays on so i had to go with a desk mount, eats up the desk space
I have a solution for your space problem on your desk we had the same issue so we found a place that sells office furniture and bought a desk 1.8m long with a Hutch to clear space on the desk and mount the screens on the back board and not on the desk or wall.
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  • #53
  • Nov 23, 2009 6:27am Nov 23, 2009 6:27am
Quoting Jns
I have a solution for your space problem on your desk we had the same issue so we found a place that sells office furniture and bought a desk 1.8m long with a Hutch to clear space on the desk and mount the screens on the back board and not on the desk or wall.
Nice one - or just get a sheet of MDF cut to size (with a couple of returns) and fix them to your existing desk...
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  • #54
  • Nov 23, 2009 7:57am Nov 23, 2009 7:57am
Quoting Jns
I have a solution for your space problem on your desk we had the same issue so we found a place that sells office furniture and bought a desk 1.8m long with a Hutch to clear space on the desk and mount the screens on the back board and not on the desk or wall.

nice looking setup. thanks for the idea.
  • #55
  • Nov 23, 2009 9:35am Nov 23, 2009 9:35am
Quoting blacksun1
i have three monitors, one for charts, one for trading, and one for whatever else im doing/looking at. usually FF forums lol. it isnt neccesary, but it helps because you dont have to keep switching between programs to check prices or charts or emails or whatever else you do when you trade. keeps things simple, you know? and thats definitely the best help when trading: simplicity.
my version of simplicity (being a former multi-monitor addict myself - though only ever 7 monitors... and usually it was just 6)

I got me a macbook pro 15" in january. 3GB of RAM only (4GB on macbook pros from 2008 can cause it to freeze a lot - but newer models apparently have fixed this - it was an nvidia chipset bug)

NO external monitor.

that's right, just 1 1440x900 screen. What does this mean? well for one I can sit on the couch and trade... or a nice recliner.

Parallels 5 runs XP fast in a VM... plus it is easy to back up my "trading computer" - the VM, just by copying the VM file to a usb drive every friday.

I only have 768MB of ram allotted to the VM and there is always about 200MB free because all I'm running in their are the charts and the trading terminal software and yahoo widgets for Oanda's Market Hours widget... and the MS antivirus software.. oh and the printscreen program to take screenshots.

Another great thing about the VM is that i have a "clean install" of XP file, with just basic things like .net, java, windows updates, my trading software, etc. installed. This has saved my ass already once when I installed some software I shouldn't have that messed up windows. So i just copied the data files from the old VM into a copy of the clean one, and everything was like new.

but I digress...

so how does this eliminate my need of multiple monitors? Well, obviously for trading I have to see everything on one screen... so the way I trade I can fit the charts and the terminal on the screen with room to spare. Way some others might trade, they can't. So if you can't then this setup ain't for you.

But a "dicking around" monitor is not necessary in this setup. Because I have the VM running full screen on a virtual desktop (called Spaces in OS X)... I tried many virtual desktops on windows before and none of them satisfied me. But spaces on OS X is great. I set up hot keys so I can just press CTRL-down and it will slide me into my XP "machine"... CTRL+Up to go back to OS X.

so I read web pages, emails, IM, use spreadsheets, read pdfs, all that stuff in OS X but trading in XP. I would run W7 in a VM instead except that I expect it probably double the size of my 4 GB VM file. So for me that is not a good trade-off.

weird thing too is I probably could use this notebook (a year old already) for at least a couple of years. Which is really unheard of for me, sometimes I even bought 2 notebooks a year. Of course this is probably the same for windows notebooks now, since I guess notebooks now are just pretty powerful so there is no need to get one more than once every year or 2.
  • #56
  • Edited 12:38pm Nov 23, 2009 10:09am | Edited 12:38pm
I am posting my initial components that i am thinking to buy..please add or delete according to your experience


Case:
Cooler Master Elite 335 ATX Mid Tower Case
$30 = $30 - 2% cashback


Power Supply:
OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W
$32 = $65 - 2% cashback - 10% promo code CZ11 - $25 rebate




Motherboard: + CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor + ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
$226 = $241 - 2% cashback -$15 cashback

Hard Drive:
Seagate Barracuda ST3500418AS 500GB
$44 = $60 - 2% cashback - $15 rebate


Memory:
Patriot G Series ‘Sector 5’ Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
9-9-9-24
$88 = $90 - 2% cashback

Video Card

SI R4350-MD512H Radeon HD 4350 512MB 64-bit GDDR2
$19.74 =$34.99 - $10 Rebate [newegg.com] - 15% Code VGA1119



Total Comes out to 438. ...i really thing this is worth it...guys any input...

if cashback comes at 10% this friday this system will cost 407 being same prices...

Any inputs guys...??..only thing i worry is the compatibility...

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  • #57
  • Nov 23, 2009 10:22am Nov 23, 2009 10:22am
looks good - way to go hunting for deals...cashbacks and rebates.

you'll be able to run 4 monitors right off the bat, add another of thos gfx cards and you'll have support for 6.
  • #58
  • Nov 23, 2009 10:30am Nov 23, 2009 10:30am
Quoting pursuit_21
looks good - way to go hunting for deals...cashbacks and rebates.

you'll be able to run 4 monitors right off the bat, add another of thos gfx cards and you'll have support for 6.
@pursuit....


For US people we have one website.. slickdeals.....


i just did a quick browsing there....also i putted here so some one can get quick link and make a PC faster....just helping people...way you helped me

thanks for all the help man...

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  • #59
  • Nov 23, 2009 10:41am Nov 23, 2009 10:41am
Quoting indianguyinny24
I am posting my initial components that i am thinking to buy..please add or delete according to your experience


Case:
Cooler Master Elite 335 ATX Mid Tower Case
$30 = $30 - 2% cashback


Power Supply:
OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W
$32 = $65 - 2% cashback - 10% promo code CZ11 - $25 rebate


CPU
[url="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103674"]AMD...
Don't forget an OS.
  • #60
  • Nov 23, 2009 10:45am Nov 23, 2009 10:45am
Quoting angus
Don't forget an OS.
Legitimate Windows 7 Pro = 30$....dont ask me how

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